Any sighting tips then?
I try to look where I'm going and then go where I'm looking.
Any sighting tips then?
I try to look where I'm going and then go where I'm looking.
DD I swam 1km in 35 mins yesterday, started swimming again regularly 3 weeks ago, first couple of times I thought I was going to drown.
I am sure you can really improve the swimming side of things.
Good luck with the Triathalon
only tip I have is get some good goggles
Tip for someone coming to this event from a cycling forum - this is not a cycling race! Most cyclists I know who have dipped thier toe have pushed way too hard on the bike and spoilt their potential to run well and get a good overall time. The skill is to push as hard as you can without adding more than 5-10% to your standalone run pb for the distance.
And the swim - unless you are downplaying yourself and you really are that bad in the water please start right at the back. If it's an in the water start everyone treads water with a much smaller 'footprint' than they will take up when swimming so when the gun goes it gets very congested. You don't want to be that dipstick (there is always at least one) who starts right up the front but in reality is just one evolutionary step on from doggy paddle. Competitive twunts like me who are pretty handy in the water will just climb all over you and push you under to get you out of the way. Sorry!
As an MTBer xterra might appeal - xterra is coming back to the UK for the first time in a while in a couple of weeks - here
Competitive twunts like me who are pretty handy in the water
Don't worry, I have no intention other than starting right at the back. I know that the swim bit can get a bit rough so I won't be trying to hold anyone up there. It'll be bad enough being one of the slowest, let alone getting the shit beaten out of me to be thrown to the back anyway. I'd find that a bit scary to be honest. And I find joggers who do the same in 10Ks and HMs as annoying, though running past someone isn't as frustrating as trying to swim over him. If anything, for me, it'll be the running that's the best event out of the three, so while it'll be frustrating to be behind everybody after the swim, I'm hoping to achieve respectability by the time the run is done. Or I could just facebook your mate from the tri club and get some tips from him. (what was the outcome of all that anyway?)
If anything, for me, it'll be the running that's the best event out of the three, so while it'll be frustrating to be behind everybody after the swim, I'm hoping to achieve respectability by the time the run is done.
I used to be a bit like that - against triathletes I was an ok swimmer, a pretty good cyclist and a good runner so just spent the entire land based part of the race passing people which always feels good. In 4 seasons the only person to overtake me was Chris Lillywhite when he switched to triathlon after retiring and I'll forgive myself that one! These days its a bit more depressing as I've slowed on land but probably got faster in the water so I spend most of the event getting past!
Or I could just facebook your mate from the tri club and get some tips from him. (what was the outcome of all that anyway?)
I've been away for a couple of weeks so not sure where we are at now. Words were exchanged, some micky has been taken but he is adamant he did nothing wrong. I suspect he might not have deliberately cheated but took an acidental short cut, knows he did but is keeping to his story. Lost his garmin file somehow.... Anyway - he's got a bloody big tat now saying how marvellously he did which could be a bit painful to remove if we bang on about any more
he's got a bloody big tat now
As an MTBer xterra might appeal
It does to me, that sounds cool.
T1 is fine, T2 was torture, like trying to run on someone else's legs, someone who had never ran before
NBIF, don't worry in a few weeks DD will stop talking about bricking it in the swim and begin taking about bricking it in training for T2!!!!
Not being a triathlete but I would have thought in the interests of keeping costs down could you not just wear a pair of jammers under the wetsuit! Then just put a cycling top on for the other 2 sections, surely 20km on a bike wouldn't be that bad with no padding, or would it?
You make a very good point giant_scum. Depending on budget over the next few weeks, I may just go for budgie smugglers underneath the wetsuit. I always wear padded shorts for a bike ride though so I do suffer if I ride without - not sure how badly this would impact my run (which is my best discipline of the three...and when I say "best", I mean my best, not "best" by any other reasonable standard).
Here is how to sight:
Essentially, lift head to crocodile eyes, drop head and turn to breathe at the side as normal. So you do it just before a breath. Head has to go higher than crocodile eyes if there is chop or people in the way.
There is a knack to it. When you get good at it, you can sight pretty much without slowing down in flat water.
It is easier to sight on high up things directly above wherever you're headed to get a general direction, but as you're getting closer to whatever you're actually headed for, you do really need to sight on that.
Don't follow people in front without sighting too, as they may be zigzagging idiots.
If you're rubbish and not in a hurry, you can just breaststroke a stroke or two to sight, although breaststroke is harder in a suit.
Oh, and one random useless sighting tip from last night's swim, if you're swimming at night, and you put a light to mark where you left your clothes so you can see where to stop, don't put it in flashing mode, as it will only be visible if you sight just as the flash goes, I was seeing my light only on about every 5th sight!
If you need padding you could always just get a cheap-ish pair of tri shorts and wear a cycling jersey over the top.
I'd say the main thing is not to do anything new - if you currently bike or run wearing socks, then take a little extra time in transition and put some socks on. Make sure you go for a bike and run in the kit you're planning to race in (e.g. padded-ish shorts, budgie smugglers, whatever) to make sure there's no unforeseen chafing...
This is coming from someone who adjusted their saddle nose up about 5mm before my ride on Monday... and now has the worst saddle sores I've ever experienced. This morning's run was not as pleasant as normal
i did my first sprint tri last year and loved it had to miss this years but will be back at it again next year
as for the suit i got mine new off ebay for £25 and did the job as it was a pool swim il check the make when i get home its not your usual brand just some chinese rip off but it worked lol
best advice i can offer is practice transitions and changing from ride to run as mentioned can feel wierd try skipping sideways to get everything moving in other directions and wake up your legs
wear socks on ride and run they help allot after being in the wet,stand on a towel while getting ready to rid most of the water
belts- i went for orca as it had a pouch for inhailers if needed and lots of gell loops was only aboyt £7
i ended up beating my aim of better than half the pack dont look to win as your first aim and get disheartend
most of all have fun
Second Joe's comments about crocodile eyes. This and timing your sighting (not the same time!) is key. You only have to get your eyes to the surface. Avoid lifting your whole head.
My worst tri memory was
drafting following a bloke in budgies for a couple of miles in the bike leg of a half IM. From my aero position, my line of sight was.........horrible to say the least!!!!
Can't have been comfortable for him either?
dont look to win
Ok, I'll just go for top three then.
Holy smoke he got a tat!! HE might not think he's done something wrong fact is he got DQ'd so I certainly wouldn't head out and get a tatt done .. gosh that makes me cringe!
well i'm entered for Ironman Wales 2014 ... eek scared face
In my first tri I had to be pulled out of the swim, it was the first time I had swam in my wetsuit and I hadn't worked any slack up to the shoulders, so I was fighting the wetsuit as I moved my arms forward, after 800m I was burnt out and couldn't continue.
I also find the swim to bike transition much harder than the bike to run, which is where most advice seems to focus. The swim to bike really sends my heart rate rocketing and takes a long time to stabilise. So that's something I am working on at the moment.
I'm a bit worried about the possibility of being pulled from the swim too MSP.
Have you bought a bike that cost at least 5 billion pounds and can't go round corners yet?
You just have to look at the first one as a learning experience, I did that one that I got pulled out of, then I did another olympic distance one where I had learned how to use a wetsuit then my next one was the Weisbaden half ironman which I managed to finish despite weighing 120kg*.
So just go out there and enjoy yourself.
*As hard as the day was the worst thing was seeing how fat I am in a trisuit in the official photographs(I didn't buy them).
Oh and as far as the bike goes I still can't get comfortable on tri bars, and still just use standard drop bars.
im looking at getting some tri bars myself but have to re route my cables to remove my sissy levers (have to do anyway and never really use them)
crc do basic bolt on token ones for about £30 so gonna give them a punt
just had a second baby deliverd so im not doing overly well with getting anything fitness orientated apart from some resistance training on the wii
I'm not a fan on tri bars not that I've really tried them! probem is until I get my running quicker they are pointless. At the mo over an Olympic tri I can put 8-10 minutes into other girls and come out fastest in age group..then lose 2-3 mins a mile over 10k .. so pointless having tri bars until I get better
just spent the entire land based part of the race passing people which always feels goodI work with a lad who started triathlons after being a national level swimmer. All he ever saw was people overtaking him, until he improved the other stuff
Good luck Deaddles !
no.1 daughter is planning on upping her swimming for a serious attempt at getting in the development squad. the recommendation is 9hrs a week! 3 is where she ll start..
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