Road biking has always been my first love, both riding and watching, but the years and years of doping scandals have made this a relationship of great highs and cheated lows, rather like my love life in general. But I feel I have become immune to the shock of it, rather like football fans and diving, and I would no longer be surprised to learn that any pro rider was doping.
I will miss Contador in the giro and tdf this year. I would guess last season was one of of his cleanest season's ever, given the scrutiny and testing he would have undergone, and this seems born out in some of the climbing times and the fact that many sport 'observers' were noting riders showing more obvious signs of exhaustion and distress at the end of stages. His performance in the giro was stunning, and maybe the lack of drugs ensured he couldn't carry the same form into the tdf, but in some of the late stages of the tdf he looked like a man riding for pride.
I love you all my drug filled beauties! Ride like the wind! I am ready to be heart broken 
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Contador suspended 2 years
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not sure if this has ben posted yet but I found this very telling.
It was, they suggest, 'the transfusion of plasma
of 21 July 2010 which would have contaminated
the sample with clenbuterol ...'
It’s a scientifically respectable, intellectually
satisfying explanation, supported by evidence
from WADA’s expert witness Michael Ashenden
– one of the creators of the Biological Passport
and one of the most public anti- doping scientists
around – that 'Contador 's reticulocyte values
(i.e. , the population of young, recently- born red
cells in his blood) ... during the 2010 Tour de
France were atypical, and opposite to what
would have been expected’ (paragraph 132, on
page 25). Later, we read, ‘They [were] also
significantly higher than the values measured
during his previous victories at the Tour de
France (2007 and 2009), the 2008 Vuelta and
the 2008 Giro, while they should be
comparable’ (paragraph 351a) .
Ditto, his haemoglobin concentration (paragraph
351b ). ‘Such values are not consistent with Mr
Contador’s normal values and are difficult to
reconcile with physiological variations. As such,
they provide indications which would be
consistent with blood doping’ (paragraph 132,
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Shouldn't anyone who's managed to stay quite close to a confirmed doper also be under suspicion?
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Thankfully you have managed to reach middle age with the outlook and maturity of a teenager..i can undertand why this fills you with pride....sadly it is in the wrong organ.
nothing quite sums up the inner workings of a cretins mind like the above
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http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/2011/news/analysis-of-cas-alberto-contador-clenbuterol-doping-ban-ruling-by-matt-rendell-36542/
That guys writing style- he could probably half his piece to make it readable.
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I've not read all the last 6 pages so apologies if this link has been posted.
An interesting article from Outside magazine on where the Livestrong money goes and the minimal real term investment they actually make in cancer research.
Its actually about promoting hope don't you know
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Thank goodness the internet dwellers and two-bit shock internet Journo's keep Lance on his toes.
I bet at the Leadville100 winLance must have been smacked up off his tits.
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I love you all my drug filled beauties! Ride like the wind! I am ready to be heart broken
Perfect ...almost Rumi like in its eloquence!Posted 3 months ago # -
An interesting article from Outside magazine on where the Livestrong money goes and the minimal real term investment they actually make in cancer research.
Some pretty daming evidence there (not)
During an investigation that played out over several months—involving dozens of interviews and careful examination of Livestrong’s public financial records—I found no evidence that Armstrong has done anything illegal in his role as the face of the organization.
Livestrong is about supporting cancer sufferers, not about research. Perhaps the critics would similarly slag off Macmillan Nurses, a UK charity that supports cancer sufferers and spends not a single penny on cancer research?
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When Armstrong travels on Livestrong business, the foundation insists, he picks up his own tabs
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The financial records appear to back up Armstrong’s assertionPosted 3 months ago # -
So are we done now venting our collective spleens. Can we discuss who will win the tour?
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Can we discuss who will win the tour?
Reliance Life Sciences but pFizer have to be in the running
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I thought they were vying for the role as energy drinks suppliers.
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Can we discuss who will win the tour?
The bookies suggest :
1. Evans
2. A. Schleck
3. Wiggins
Outsiders. Menchov, Froome, Valverde, Gesink, SanchezPosted 3 months ago # -
That guys writing style- he could probably half his piece to make it readable
Too many long words for you?
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1. Evans
that doesn't look very exciting. going to need an attacking rider in there to shake things up...
2. A. Schleck
3. WigginsPosted 3 months ago # -
On the face of it the 2012 tour is going to be as exciting as playing I-Spy in the dark; a few mountain stages in between the time trials.
But of course, being a bike race, anything could happen.Posted 3 months ago # -
ooh, here we go again;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/feb/08/police-arrest-husband-jeannie-longo
The husband of the Olympic cyclist Jeannie Longo has been arrested over the alleged purchase of the banned performance enhancer erythropoietin, known as EPO, according to reports in France.
A police official confirmed that Longo's apartment had been raided and Patrice Ciprelli, her husband and coach, arrested, but the 53-year-old cyclist herself had not been detained.
Longo has competed in seven Olympics and came 24th in the women's road race in Beijing four years ago, the event in which she won gold in 1996 and silver in 1992.
The police official did not provide further details, and declined to be identified by name.
The sports newspaper L'Equipe reported that a dozen officers from a police agency that focuses on environmental and public health led a search of the couple's property as part of a judicial probe opened in September.
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ooh, here we go again;
I love you all my drug filled beauties! Ride like the wind! I am ready to be heart broken
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Off on a slight tangent, but here may be the best place to ask, can anyone point me in the direction of any good books about doping in cycling?
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Menchov, now he could be an interesting winner. Is he not getting on a bit now? As I recall he is a really classy rider, is there any dirt on him? I'd jusy like to be warned in case he starts to do well.
Longo's husband is really old news.
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can anyone point me in the direction of any good books about doping in cycling?
Are you thinking of giving it a try...
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t-obias
Rough Rides, worth a read.Posted 3 months ago # -
Bad Blood
or David Millars new book.
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Probably the easiest way to level the field is to just simply allow doping.
You wouldn't be the first to suggest "stock" and "modified" classes.
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And on a lighter note, Newsbiscuit reports "Bradley Wiggins still hopeful of victory in 2010 Tour de France"
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can anyone point me in the direction of any good books about doping in cycling?
It's Not About the Bike
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lol
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so the schleck thing - you are telling me his brother and probably closest friend had no idea he was doping? does this raise suspicion that as they are in the same team that if one of the brothers was doing it then so was the other? same teams, no doubt same trainers/coaches/doctors etc etc etc did one of the shclecks just get lucky/unlucky?!?! do you think one ignored the fact his brother was doping? im sure he knew even if he claims he didnt have anything, his morales for cycling are terrible given the fact he would have known his brother was doping and chose to ignore it and let him ride on, the only other explanation is he was on it too and got away with it
as far as i can see from my limited knowledge of road cycling, the sport looks completely corrupt from within, in order to win. whether that be team coaches, riders, doctors etc etc etc
there will be some genuine riders out there who dont do it im sure, but alot of them must indeed use doping to some extent to stay within reach of their opponents?
its truly truly truly corrupt, my personal view on the armstrong thing is that the man basically is 'cycling' they bring him down, and they bring down absolutly everything within cycling, tdf the whole lot....
no wonder there are so many coverups surrounding this, imagine cycling if armstrong was stripped of all his glory? cycling would be absolutly on its arse, and im not sure they are willing to risk 'finding' anything on the man
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Thanks anc, bikebouy, aracer. I'll give them a try.
Lazybike - worth a try, might have to loose 7/8 stone, get fit and actually ride a road bike, but what the hell, can't be that difficult, right?
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Thanks ... aracer. I'll give them a try.
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Go for it fella.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/16937377
Especially as no one has been able to demonstrate that the ingestion was anything but accidental. Guilty by speculation.Posted 3 months ago # -
don simon - Member
Go for it fella.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/16937377
Especially as no one has been able to demonstrate that the ingestion was anything but accidental. Guilty by speculation.Guilty by evidence I am afraid.
The UCI/WADA only had to prove that he had a banned substance in his blood stream which they did.
Once that had been proven then the onus was him to prove that it's presence was unintential/accidental. He didn't.He lost the case, he has effectively only been banned from competition for 7 months so its time for everyone to move on.
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I love you all my drug filled beauties! Ride like the wind! I am ready to be heart broken
Needs to be said in Brian Blessed voice for full effect.
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don simon - Member
I've always claimed that he had to be treated as innocent until proven guilty, he's now been proven guilty and will hopefully take the ban on the chin. I have no issue with this.Proven guilty
As was clear from the beginning. The contaminated beef cock and bull story does not stand up in any way, he managed to get the evidence on his blood doping not heard.
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Go for it fella.
His only possible appeal now is on procedural matters - no more possibility of contesting the facts of the case. I suspect any chance of winning such an appeal was scotched with the panel ruling that Michael Ashenden couldn't testify (which would have been grounds for WADA to appeal on procedure had they lost).
Good luck with that.
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