buying a canyon 7.9 29 er . got to wait a while yet for delivery , or i can get straight away the 8.9 or 9.9 , is it worth the wait over cash . the main difference seems to be the fork 8.9 got a DTswiss XRM29 and the 9.9 got a Fox 32 float fit terralogic , whereas the 7.9 has the Fox float CTD evolution . i have a preference for the fox as my lbs deals with these and the swiss maybe harder to get service and maitence on . but have amn open mind , but particularly interested if the fox terra logic is worth the extra cash over the ctd. any thoughts thanks in advance

I have a 8.9, now that the 7.9 has been released it would be a difficult choice. I have had an issue with the DT Swiss forks and they took quite along time to sort out under warranty. However in my opinion the groupset and brakes on the 8.9 are better than the 9.9 and as I’m not racing it I don’t want Terralogic forks.
The 7.9 is probably the best option if you want to upgrade the wheels and groupset in the future. Or just want to save money in the first place.

thanks for that , definitely will not be racing so maybe the 9.9 is a bit much .i was about to order the 8.9 but the 7.9 suddenly popped up , and being cheaper was appealing along with the easy availability of fox servicing , pain having to wait though , want it now . now your bike is sorted is it a good ride and the canyon 29 err a good ride ?

double post

Very happy with my 8.9. I went for it as I’m not a fan of SRAM shifters and reason the DT forks were A) a bit different and B) surely wouldn’t have a 10 minute service interval like Fox. It also appears to be a bit lighter.

It’s a bit annoying as the price has gone down a tenner and both 7.9 and 8.9 come with free pedals at the moment. XTs on the 8.9 & 520s on the 7.9.

I’m looking forward to the carbon version when that comes out.

never had a decent fork before , I’ve got a 2011 specialised hard rock , do fox forks need a lot of servicing , and whats the damage

Fox forks do require a fair bit of servicing to meet their warrantee requirements. That said, the Terralogic fork is worth it in my opinion if you can afford it – as efficient as a rigid on the flat, but as plush as anything when you need it. I wish I could afford one for my hard tail 29er. Had one on my 26er and it was lush.

i also have a 8.9 and like cheers_drive also had a warrenty issue with teh DT swiss forks – be interested to find out what your problem was cheers_drive?

My issue was that the two collects which hold the 15mm through axle were not glued into the fork properly – they arrived rolling around in the bottom of the bike box.

Canyon UK were very helpfull and got the forks sent to Pace for warrenty (didnt want to glue them back in my self as that would invalidate the warrenty), then I had to wait 2 weeks for them to fix it (two weeks to glue them back in i thought was a little long)….

Anyhow, there fixed now – and whilst the bike is amazingly quick, handles well, stiff etc etc, the fork doesnt perform as the fox or rockshox i’ve had in the past – the small bump capability isnt quite as good – having said that its still an amazing bike. But if the 7.9 had been around when i ordered mine i’d proberly have gone with that.
Cant see the point of the 9.9 though – i dont like sram shifters or brakes and its heavery than the cheaper 8.9!

I have an 8.9, maybe still bedding the forks in or not got the pressures right, but their small bump compliance isn’t the best yet. I’ll be playing around with them to try to improve that. And I had an issue with the inserts in the legs rotating when trying to loosen/ tighten the 15mm QR bolt. Sorted with some Araldite.

The bike is fantastic, got me down some pretty steep techy stuff that I was worried the bike wouldn’t be good on. In short, buy one…

If you do get a 7.9 and I cant get my forks the way I like, I might well consider a swap?

Andy

Lol, monkey boy, must have been writing that as you posted. Are you sure you are not me? 😉

And I had an issue with the inserts in the legs rotating when trying to loosen/ tighten the 15mm QR bolt. Sorted with some Araldite.

same issue i had…. apparently a batch of DT Swiss forks went to canyon with this issue (dodgy glue) and delayed delivery times for around 2-3weeks whilst they got new ones from DT swiss.

Lol, monkey boy, must have been writing that as you posted. Are you sure you are not me?

nope… 😆

B) surely wouldn’t have a 10 minute service interval like Fox

You probably should have researched that first 😉

The 7.9 is very tempting, it’s just the brakes that put me off (although easily sorted it’s a shame Canyon don’t allow any customisation).

Cheers_Drive had an issue with the damper in the DT Swiss forks. He had to wait over 2 months (!) for them to be fixed.

How do they measure up just out of curiosity? I’d be very tempted but they looked a bit short in the top tube compared to my current Scandal?

B) surely wouldn’t have a 10 minute service interval like Fox. It also appears to be a bit lighter.

Definitely, looking through here they sound a lot more reliable 😈

thanks good info, did read that the dt swiss forks need a good time to bed in but got a good review , not sure the extra cash is worth the fox terralogic , just got to wait 5-6 weeks for 7.9 , unless they start shipping earlier , patience required , dam tricky to make your mind up on what bike to buy , so much choice

As Rondo said I had a ABS damper issue. The lowers were also changed due to the collet bonding issue that other’s have mentioned. It’s back now though.

Going off topic – has anyone converted their wheels to tubeless yet? They are OEM wheels so there isn’t any info on them.

heres the geo info Toasty

Going off topic – has anyone converted their wheels to tubeless yet? They are OEM wheels so there isn’t any info on them.

i’d assume that you’d have to use standard ‘conversion’ strips – they dont say that there tubeless compatible on the DT Swiss web site:
link

Well, I suppose I might have wonky dropouts but I definately would have frequent servicing with the Foxs. Besides, the DTs fit with my current Euro-Mincy XC dreams….. 😉

Having punctured both of the paper thin 140gm tubes yesterday I’m also going tubeless. There is an official DT kit but it’s about £35 a wheel! A mate has recommended being a cheap skate & using roval tape/Stan’s valves/Stan’s gloop.

whats the difference in servicing timescales between the fox and dt swiss , my lbs deals in fox but not dt swiss .

dt swiss is once a year, which is pretty standard for all forks – the manual doesnt provide a ‘milage’ base though.
Not sure about Fox

DT swiss are every 200 hours and fox are every 10 hours.

direct from the xmm29 service manual.

wow , fox every 10 hours and dt swiss 200 , that makes the dt swiss very appealing , fox looks very intense , why such a difference , as you can gather i am a bit of a novice in this department , that makes the dt swiss very appealing , going to have to check out what the fox service requires after every 10 hours , and if you don’t do it i suppose you may well end up with a malfunctioning fork . does the fox give a better ride , and ifso is it really wort the hassle , I’m a fun recreational user not a competition fanatic .

I have an older Fox F29 fork. It’s smoother than the Reba I had. Downside is the news from TF Tuned when I called about a service a few weeks. My fork, despite being in excellent condition, has a knocking bush. It potentially now requires a new CSU…

Wouldn’t buy Fox again. My mates been running. DT Swiss fork for a couple of years & its been faultless. If I had the cash I’d get the DT.

2012 fox service intervals are 100 hours or annually for a full service and lower leg oil change is 30 hours. Don’t confuse forest2 by saying 10 hours which isn’t true.

cheers pete , i was definitely getting confused and there seemed to be a massive disparity between maintenance requirements , dt swiss seems a bit better , but no local service , swings and roundabouts . also the 7.9 seems to have new ctd fork so maybe an improvement in maintenance timescales as well. the dt swiss certainly seems to have had its issues as well from the posts here , its a whole new world in suspension for me , I’ve got a pair of sr sun tour act vrii on my hard rock and i have not done a thing to them but i don’t think they are anything special, hoping for a big improvement on my new 29er

As others have said the DT Swiss fork is really harsh on the small stuff, hopefully it will bed in soon. At the moment I’m running them at 70psi instead of the recommended 115psi for my weight which feels much better but they occasionally bottom out.

I’ve not had problems with Fox forks on other bikes so I don’t think you can go wrong with either the 7.9 or 8.9.

i think its the small stuff I’m gonna be hitting the most . think ill stick with my 7.9 order , and put my faith in the new ctd fox forks , plus its got the new mavic wheels , although i doubt you would notice the difference , looking forward to the bigger wheels and a smoother ride to my 26er, good blast on that today

DT swiss are every 200 hours and fox are every 10 hours.

What rubbish, take both numbers and skew to back your point up. For a start, service interval has no bearing on reliablity. Secondly I think you’re trying to compare a wiper service to a full strip?

Fox are currently quoting:

http://service.foxracingshox.com/consumers/Content/service_intervals.htm

Wiper service + Oil change
Fox – 30 hours
DT Swiss – 50 hours

Full service
Fox – 100 hours or 1 year
DT Swiss – 1 year

If you ragged a set of DT Swiss for 11 months solid, every day, are you saying they’d be fine, because they’ve not hit the magical 1 year quoted?

For me if the choice is between a fork that works well and needs fairly frequent servicing or a fork that doesn’t work very well and needs less frequent servicing it would be a no-brainer to go for the fork that works. I care more about riding the bike than spanner time. Anyway as above my Fox’s are find after about 60 hours and no servicing (just a bit of fork juice and pumping to lift stuff off the seals once every month or so).

Toasty- I wasn’t stating they showed reliability I was just saying the numbers that the manufactures have stated.

For me if the choice is between a fork that works well and needs fairly frequent servicing or a fork that doesn’t work very well and needs less frequent servicing it would be a no-brainer to go for the fork that works. I care more about riding the bike than spanner time.

ah but cost may become an issue – personally i send my forks off to serviced once every 18 months or so. Not because thats what the manufacture says , but because its approx £100 a time. I’m confident enought at spannering to remove the lowers and change the lube etc, but a full strip down service, thats another matter…

http://www.sicklines.com/2012/05/08/2013-fox-racing-shox-ctd-float-talas-34-32-650b-29er-26-doss-seat-post/

found this link to the new fox ctd suspension stuff ,the 7.9 has a fox ctd fork, if anyones interested

just though i’d stick a quick picture of my 8.9 in here to wet your appetite…
I changed the saddle when i bought it for a Fizik kurve, but didnt get on with it, so got a new Sele Italia SL XC today (as i know i get on with that) proberly at too steep an angle at the mo though.

nice , horrible having to wait itching to get my hands on my order , especially with all this good weather

I’m swapping out the Q-Bik saddle on my 8.9 as well. I’ve got a Ritchey WCS Marathon on order. I’ve also had a bit of trouble with the seat post slipping down. I’m replacing that with a 27.2 WCS post and USE shim and the QR with a Allen bolt & collar. The inner tubes are the 140gm ultralight ones (tenner each on XC racer!), know this as I punctured both last weekend. Tubeless kit going in this week!

Toasty- I wasn’t stating they showed reliability I was just saying the numbers that the manufactures have stated.

Where does it state 100 hours for DT Swiss and 10 hours for an equivalent Fox service?

http://www.foxracingshox.com/service.php?m=bike&ref=servicehome

service info for fox here

I went for the 8.9 as after research it was best value for money and was available sooner. It also allowed me to spend the extra saving and upgrade to the bits I wanted… Changed the saddle to an xc, the seat post to carbon, the cassette to an XO, stem to 110mm WCS, the grips to the red ESI and have just ordered some XO gripshifts and have now got it down to 23.6lb inc pedals…. They are a fantastic bike, other than my issue with the through axel that others seem to have had.