Inbred
I've had the Original, 456 & Summer Season.
Surely it wins on numbers, simplicity, fun, being Northern and quite possibly showing us how much things should actually cost?
Inbred
I've had the Original, 456 & Summer Season.
Surely it wins on numbers, simplicity, fun, being Northern and quite possibly showing us how much things should actually cost?
No, that honour goes to the Cove Stiffee and the Santa Cruz Cameleon (sp?)
As for bike of the decade stinky will get my vote. It can't be the indred or any on-one lets face it. Once you've learn to sin and get to see other countries no-one (see what I did here I am pretty chuffed) knows what on-one is.
Orange Patriot... which then morphed into the Five ( when will people accept it's essentially the same simple can-crusher bike?? )
Actually the Americans love the on-one 29ers.
For me, personally, it would have to be the Cotic Soul.
And by a country mile.
I've had a heckler, a handjob, a motolite and a vf2.
Cotic has been the bike of choice since I bought it.
Maverick ML7 - The early american built one's. Beautiful.
+1 on the inbred
Simplicity, cost and most of all fun
Cotic Bfe
Giant NRS.
Specialized Epic.
Kona Stinky...affordable full suspension that worked both down and up.
Freeride/AM/whatever for the masses that couldn't afford a Patriot/Heckler/5Spot...
Actually thinking about it more surly crosscheck is the bees knees. geared ss or fixed, 23mm road tyres upto 1.8 29er tyres and owt inbetween and all the braze ons you could want.except front rack mount but you can't have it all (well if you fit lht forks you can)
Isn't this just people mostly naming bikes they've owned in the last decade?
I don't think you can have a consensus on the best bike because most people have not ridden most bikes that have come out in the last decade.
I might be wrong but certainly suspended bikes get better over time as technologies improve, everything else that's attached is better (braking for instance) and become more accessible and affordable; otherwise if as this has a few votes the 04 Enduro/Jordan was the best bike of the last decade it would still be the current Enduro/Jordan, they wouldn't have been the need to redesign, change or improve, no?
I think (and again I may be wrong) the idea is redesign to make better so that what's current is the best possible version of what's been, so it would follow then that the current Anthem is better than the first generation Anthem (having taken rider/racer feedback, testing over a longer period, better forks, drivetrain, brakes, they even moved the position of the shock).
True most of it is marketing testicles but the main point stands, jå?
Cotic Soul
That first bike, the Stumpjumper FSR XC, in black. That was my first full sus. I found it incredible, I remember going out with a mate, my first ride on that bike and I absolutely thrashed him down a descent I normally minced down on my hardtail. Couldn't believe how much faster and more comfortable it was. Won a few races thanks to that bike!
As for the original question, I'd probably go for the Enduro as well. the bike that brought 6" travel to the masses, the bike that made MBR sit up and say that hardtails were dead and that you *needed* a 6" travel bike for trail-riding (OK, they were wrong but then they're wrong on most things...) The bike is still basically the same, a few tweaks in design, obviously suspension technology etc but it's fundamentally the same bike, proof of how good it is.
otherwise if as this has a few votes the 04 Enduro/Jordan was the best bike of the last decade it would still be the current Enduro/Jordan, they wouldn't have been the need to redesign, change or improve, no?
Those of us still riding '04 Enduros (and there seem to be quite a few) might debate whether the newer bikes are actually all that much better, or whether they've just followed a trend towards longer travel etc.
My '04 Enduro has had lots of newer technologies thrown at it - pro-pedal shock, lightish 20mm bolt-through forks (including some a fair bit longer than it was designed for), wider trail tyres, uppy/downy seatpost etc. - and has just kept on getting better and better. It's also still reasonably light even by modern standards (the frame is just over 6lbs with headset and shock fitted for my S-Works one).
I reckon if Specialized had just used the old '04 Enduro frame for the new Camber they'd still sell shedloads of them...
As well as a couple of '04 Enduros I also own several of the other candidates mentioned (Soul, BFe, Epic, Inbred)!
epicsteve
I take your point but I think the original question was about the bike as was as opposed to the bike upgraded. So in your case only the frame is '04? As a follow on question have you ridden the '11 Enduro?
I take your point but I think the original question was about the bike as was as opposed to the bike upgraded. So in your case only the frame is '04?
It is only the frame that's '04 now, however using my spares bin I could easily put together an '04 build that'd still be excellent (if a bit heavier).
As a follow on question have you ridden the '11 Enduro?
Nope, and I doubt I ever will as it's moved to becoming a type of bike I don't need. On the other hand I am actively considering a new full-suss bike at the moment but if I do it's more likely to be a Stumpie FSR (possibly a carbon one) as it's travel/weight etc. is more appropriate for me.
DMR Trailstar is my choice, I havent ridden many different bikes this last decade though.
Specialized SX of some variety for a full sus choice.
an 11 year decade? (ought to be 2001-2010)
but I'll vote +1 for Cotic Soul
Cotic Soul, SC Heckler and Spesh Enduro are solid nominations I would say.
Cannondale Prophet.
They got the geometry spot on right from the start and never had to change it. The Five only in the last 2 years got similar geometry and has always been evolved through the decade. Enduro, and all the others, have also evolved and changed over time, even in suspension travel. The Prophet was bang on from the start although it seemed to take a while for people to cotton on.
Enduro, and all the others, have also evolved and changed over time, even in suspension travel.
While true, isn't it also true that Specialized have continued to offer FS bikes which similar suspension travel even while the Enduro has increased it's travel e.g. isn't the new Camber similar in concept to the '04 Enduro?
Not the same bike then is it. This is Bike of the Decade, not manufacturer or genre of the decade.
Not the same bike then is it.
Never said it was (and also don't even think it's relevant) - '04 Enduro still gets my vote though. Could see snap-and-fail's being candidates in other decades but not really in 2001-10.
Yeti 575. Most versatile bike out there. Much copied. The original.
I'm approaching the question as trying to define the bike that's most responsible for taking us from what we were riding then (2000/2001) to what we're riding now (2010). I'm also trying to make "we" encompass MTBing in general rather than STW, which may be a bit of an unrepresentative sample.
I only seriously got into MTBing (and STW) in 2002 but back then XC hardtails with 80-100mm travel forks being seem to be what was being ridden the most. There were still raging arguments about whether the pedalling efficiency of full suspension bikes would ever be good enough that it'd be worth giving up our hardtails and the jury was still out on the benefits of disc brakes.
What were the bike or bikes that really started MTBing moving towards wider acceptance of full suspension, long travel, slack-angled all-mountain/trail/not XC race bikes? I reckon the Marin Mount Vision, the early Marin TARA bikes, the early Enduros and the Stumpjumper FSR are probably where we should be looking for bike of the decade. Other bikes like the 5 have helped this evolution too but it seems that Marin and Specialized were getting bums on full suspension seats in large numbers first.
That said, in the UK (and maybe elsewhere but it seems mostly here) the full suspension bikes haven't had it all their way. There has been a hardtail fight back. More specifically, at the start of the decade steel frames seemed to be dying out and long travel was something for full suspension bikes. The Inbred deserves a lot of credit for rebuilding a market for steel bikes and together with the Stiffee, the Zaskar (maybe before this decade), the Soul and a host of others signalled a trend away from the idea that hardtails should only be lightweight XC-oriented things.
So, bike of the decade should be one of the first popular do-it-all FSes, but there should be an honourable mention for the Inbred.
Heckler - simples!
I'd say the 2005 Enduro.
on-one inbred
this was a real game changer, Brant's stroke of genius was figuring - it costs the same amount of money to weld some tubes together in good angles, as it does crap angles
now we are used to be able to get decent frames for not a lot of cash but pre in-bred this whole market segment didn't exist
Enduro, and yes I own one so very predictable. The early enduros made me look at getting back into biking from my childhood as it looked like it had leaped fwd to a ton of fun.
It has.
Posted this in the wrong thread earlier:
If yer talking about a 'bike of the decade', then I think it has to be something as mundane as Specialized Hardrock, simply because it's bikes like that which get more people into proper mountain biking than any bells and whistles fancy several grand jobby. £300 or so for a proper offroad capable bike. Yeah, that'd get my vote.
Wunundred!
hmm if 1990 id say a steel kona, so 2000's i'll go with beautiful hydroformed alu tubing from giant
GIANT REIGN 2005 or if you like hardtail GIANT XTC
non of this spesh nonsense...
04 enduro or orange 5 for trail riding.
orange 224 for dh.
Would have to go with Heckler or DB Alpine. Or both for a FS and HT. Done.
Islabikes Cnoc. Has got far more people riding bikes than anything else listed here.
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