600 new fighter bombers
8 new nuclear subs
1000 new helicopters
35 new corvettes
15 new frigates
2 new assault ships
Time to hide under the table with your fingers in your ears?
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Are the Russians expecting trouble
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compare to the Yanks first before you panic
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They're probbly planning to invade Britain now they know we've got no aircraft carriers and that.
Oh Whell.
Look on the bright side, this means....
...EKRANOPLAN!!!!!!!
Yay!
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And we cannot afford 2 poxy aircraft carriers. What would Putin do? He'd take those RBS bankers bonuses to pay for it.
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And the thought of the yanks getting tooled up is supposed to reassure us?
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And we cannot afford 2 poxy aircraft carriers
Which is just as well, seeing as how 'we' don't actually need them.
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35 new corvettes
Wow, how cool is that ?
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Well cool!
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Possibly true Fred. But what does he need 8 nuclear subs, 15 frigates and 2 assault ships for?
Controlling the Arctic I reckon. So we might those carriers after all.
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Which is just as well, seeing as how 'we' don't actually need them.
The people in the Malvenas might disagree with that - hippy
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Controlling the Arctic I reckon.
Lucky we have these then eh?
Oh... err...
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8 new nuclear subs
Good job the Government haven't just scrapped the RAF's maritime patrol capability (which was mainly for ASW). Oh. Hang on...
Andy
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Russia vs China arms race.
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Russia has already ordered two French-built Mistral helicopter carriers, allowing it to rapidly deploy hundreds of troops and dozens of armoured vehicles on foreign soil.
At least they've bought French ones. They'll be back at the dry dock with miltiple electrical faults within a couple of years.
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I've seen Shopping lists from the Russian military before...I'll believe it when I see it.
Which is just as well, seeing as how 'we' don't actually need them.
If you believe the RAF.
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Russia vs China arms race.
don't think so, Chinese are to busy spending money in the first and third world to secure resources to waste cash on an arms race
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China is building up its navy.......including quite a few new aircraft carriers.
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PMSL @ Harry_the_Spider.
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PMSL @ Harry_the_Spider.
Our Boys weren't pissing themselves laughing at the sight of a Super Etendards armed with Exocets ........... I believe their electrics worked just fine
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El-bent - Member
I've seen Shopping lists from the Russian military before...I'll believe it when I see it.
What 2 million kalashnikovs and a years supply of cheap hookers and even cheaper vodka?Posted 1 year ago # -
Huge oil reserves. Arctic sea free of ice.
Boy with the most toys gets the oil.
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Russians are spending $650 billion on this up to 2020, American annual defence budget $750 billion+.
I think America will have the most toys
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Agreed!
The Septics are spending and developing like you would never believe....
The Russians spending a few bob on "traditional" munitions is fine, the Yanks will always be ahead of the game.
They have some crazy and no doubt crazier sh*t!!!
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The Americans have a military budget that dwarves the UK, China and Russia combined.
The very best we can do is to take 10 years to muster one conventionally powered aircraft carrier whilst we flog it's sister ship to Indonesia or someone with aspirations of dominating the Pacific.
We're minor players these days, the sooner we get used to the fact, the better.
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the Yanks will always be ahead of the game.
Well, so Western Propaganda would have you think. They're just better on PR, is all...
Truth is, both sides are pretty evenly matched. The Yanks enjoy better coverage globally though; undoubtedly a result of their Capitalist dealings with various nations in strategic locations.
But to believe that the Russians are somehow 'behind' the USA in terms of military technology, is daft. US military experts know about the reality of Russian military capability, and loads of stuff we don't. Most of this military acquisition and development is sabre rattling; who's got the biggest gun...
As for the money involved; Russia has loads of raw materials at it's disposal, and it's labour costs are far cheaper.
Both sides are no strangers to having their mighty arses kicked by a bunch of poorly equipped guerrillas, though...
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Anyone notice the chinless wonder sucking up in the middle east while apologising to our nationals in Libya that frankly we no longer have the ability to get them home. Mind you we've mind fecked Gadaffi by mobilising a SAS patrol in readiness. Must be double shitting himself about 4 double hard bastards without a plane to get them there!
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It's not about being minor players though because ultimately if you have nuclear weapons you can dine at the top table, for obvious reasons.
So in that respect we are not minor players.
Being a superpower though is different. Manpower, arms, munitions, technology, volume, innovation and guile all contribute to being a superpower.
In this respect we struggle, although pound for pound our servicemen are among the best in the world, it's just the money that is chucked at it that is lacking.
Given our size we punch beyond our weight and always have, but there are bigger boys out there who more than respect us, superpower or not.
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if you have nuclear weapons you can dine at the top table
Who wants to dine with the Pakistanis, Israelis, and North Koreans then ?
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I think America will have the most toys
And toys are effectively what most military hardware is; it never gets used. The less 'toys' this country has, the better.
We're minor players these days, the sooner we get used to the fact, the better.
Because of this, mainly. Plenty of other nations get by perfectly well without having enormous military forces and spending. As for 'defence'; who in their right mind would want to ever invade Britain any more? It's got nowt worth invading for!
Which is perhaps quite reassuring...
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Just have a look at US 2009 expenditure compared to the rest of the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
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Who wants to dine with the Pakistanis, Israelis, and North Koreans then ?
I wouldn't mind, as long as the Pakistanis did the main course, the Koreans did the starter and the Israelis did the soup.
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I'm so proud of this forum that it only took three posts to get to Ekranoplan!
Well done, Elfin.
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Thank you!
You can't have a thread about the Russian military, without involving an Ekranoplan, if you ask me.
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You can't have a thread about the Russian military, without
involvinginvoking an EkranoplanFTFY, as surely they are mystical creations to be summoned from the Netherworld™.
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Fair point, and one well made.
I stand corrected, and hang my head in shame.
As a penance, I shall post another pic of an Ekranoplan, in the hope that it may absolve me of my sins.
All Hail the Ekranoplan! Bow down ye worthless mangy dogs for ye are not worthy...
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