Nonu will be hoping to get a crack at Chippy

Chippy?
English locks are fine front row and backrow could be a problem.

Launchbury and Parling as well as Brown are the only three who stand comparison with their opposite numbers. How are the Hookers darts, Bath always look weak in lineouts the few times I’ve seen them…although maybe I am just distracted by the man god on the bench.

Why are England not starting with a super 27.5 team? Scottish Exiles are going to kill them and it will be a pointless exercise. Cipriani will get plenty game time judging by that NZ back row.

On rugbydump Rene Ranger runs over Henry Slade 😆 fair play to young Henry he is a tough bugger.

Very cagey so far but england doing very well. NZ cynical as usual at the start. Nonu should have had a 10 min rest.

Come on Cippers!!@

Gah so close yet so far. Bodes well for next year I guess. Hopefully we can win at least one of the remaining two!

Good job but tough result to take. Looks like the so-called B team might give our A team quite a match. Only saw 2nd half when rain stripped my tennis but we really took it to them. Morgan was brilliant and were some of the young guys.

Hats off to Lancaster – he is building strength in depth at just the right time. I was expecting us to get mullered up front and yet we were mashing them in the scrum for a while.

Hats off to the AB too, by hook or by crook they know how to win,

What did the ref do wrong? Sky spurts were outraged by the yellow for Yarde but it was a stone cold yellow.

So you havent seen the game, but england lost so the ref gets a negative write up.. it was ever thus.

In other news

Replacements: Alb? de Swardt, BG Uys, Simon Kerrod, Steven Cummins, Stefan Willemse, Jaco Grobler, Dwayne Jenner, Ntabeni Dukisa.

Wales: Matthew Morgan (Ospreys); Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), Cory Allen (Cardiff Blues), Steven Shingler (Scarlets), Jordan Williams (Scarlets); James Hook (Perpignan), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets); Paul James (Bath), Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Ian Evans (Ospreys), Dan Lydiate (capt, Racing Metro), Dan Baker (Ospreys), Josh Turnbull (Scarlets).

Replacements: Matthew Rees (Cardiff Blues), Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Luke Charteris (Perpignan), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), George North (Northampton Saints), Liam Williams (Scarlets).

Hope the Kings are too shit to think of putting high balls on Nipper Morgan all day.
For those that dont know him, he’s the midget fella who makes Shane look bulky and tall. The boks will break him.
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Agreed. We didn’t lose because of Owens, and if it had been any other ref it’d have been expected for a few inconsistent decisions. It was just surprising that a man who is usually the benchmark for refereeing standards in rugby was so inconsistent. Marland yarde should have been binned, but then so should maa nonu who didn’t release may on the line 5 minutes earlier. And then there was nonu holding back Haskell, fair enough if he hadn’t seen it and played on, that’s rugby, but to have actually seen it, given the penalty and left it otherwise unpunished didn’t seem right for a blatant professional foul. I’m sure duckman can shed more light on this?

Otherwise a great game despite lack of tries! Everyone really stepped up and burns was outstanding for a man who’s supposedly just filling in despite being out of form. Lancaster really does seem to have a knack for extracting the best out of players that aren’t in great form.

Wasnt Nonu he’d gone off. The non release by Fekitoa was far more marginal as he was on his feet competing. The Yarde one was blatant killing the ball.
But then if you dont know the names of the players involved I’m sure you dont know better than the ref…

Its easy I just question peoples opinions and then they show no substance behind them.
The english whinging like, well, whinging poms is also quite funny.

Eastmond played quite well he certainly adds something to a back line. Tuilagi was fantastic too. Some big choices for Lancaster next week. Burns, Eastmond, Morgan, Parling all played well and dont deserve to be dropped. The Hask was excellent too.
May looks like a disaster waiting to happen though.

Lancaster was pretty sensible on the ref, he says he’ll be speaking to the chief ref but as Engkad didn’t control territory when they ha pd the chance with Yarde off they need to look at themselves first before complaining about the ref. Yes a win at Eden Park wild have been historic but it’s only a tour match and it’s great for the squad building to heave been competitive and lead the match for decent periods of time,

I genuinely thought AA was Welsh!

They have to pay for that Pigface!!@

So its a blatant wind up to ask people to explain why they think the ref was poor or question the judgement of someone who doesnt even know who the player involved in an incident was…. right.

You english are always so hard done by. Walsh robbed us, Owens robbed us, Cueto’s foot wasnt in touch. Blah blah blah…dont let facts stand in the way of a good whine!!

What did the ref do wrong? Sky spurts were outraged by the yellow for Yarde but it was a stone cold yellow.

If you heard the Sky Spurts (Oh my SIDES!!!) commentator complaining about the Yarde yellow, then surely you heard why he was complaining? Not because he didn’t think that was a yellow, but because of the inconsistency of not giving Nonu a yellow for a previous incident on the NZ try-line.

Personally, I think England were damn lucky the All Blacks put out a load of old boys instead of the hungry young players that have been showing form in the Super Rugby. We would never have looked so good otherwise.

Jesus a-a, have you any idea how that sounds when read back?
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+1, come on man, grow up.

Woah you saes boys, see you dont like it you do you 😆

AA cant help it us Welshies are genetically programmed to give it out to the english at any opportunity, its not personal its just how we are 😉

We are going to be humped by South Africa so we need to take our pleasure where we find it 😆

From what I have read (havent seen the game) england did very well, NZ were a bit slow and looking old but did just enough to sneak the win. Has Burns ever played better?

Big question about that result is not about england at all but what will Steve Hansen do, will he have the guts to drop some of the fading stars or try and squeeze on last World Cup out of them, either way the press in NZ are going to hammer him.