@kt360

New Year, New Username?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full

Caution: Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.

Read the warnings on your own link FFS.

Joined Jan 3rd, posted a couple of times in other threads so as not to look too fishy, then BAM!….

Read the warnings on your own link FFS.

Read the actual data collected.

I also posted the link to the scientific study here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full

I assume you will be interested in reading the scientific study?

Says the vaccine offered modest protection.

Anyway I said on the other thread:

What a sad and pathetic bunch of stupid **** wits most of you lot on this forum are. People like you are responsible for the mess we now find ourselves in as a country. Shut everything down because of a respiratory disease released from a lab in Wuhan. A disease so utterly deadly that people had to have a dodgy PCR test to see if they had actually died from (with) it. Where the average age of death with it was over 82 years old. A pandemic so horrible that needed it’s own media marketing campaign to make sure people were afraid of it. How many times does our government and it’s advisers have to lie to you before you actually wake up?

China have proved that your beloved lockdowns and masks don’t work. Cases exploded despite lockdowns and masks so the government has now had to abandon it’s zero covid approach. Vaccines don’t work either. The recent Cleveland study has shown conclusively that you are more likely to get Covid the more vaccine doses you receive. Any claimed lives saved based on dodgy modelling only. The effect of naturally increasing protection from naturally acquired immunity totally ignored. Young sportsmen dropping dead with heart conditions in record numbers. Google ‘died suddenly’ and see what comes up? Long Covid or Long vaccine injury?

So I’ve said my bit. Suggest you all need to man up and start living in the real world. Ditch your cloth comfort blankets that don’t even work. We will all die at some point so get over it! Start waking up before you all get ass-**** ed by the climate change bollocks being implemented by our great leaders who continue to fly around by private jet whilst you struggle to heat your home. Get used to owning nothing and being miserable.

What a bunch of losers!

True colours come through! 🤣🤣

Ha ha ha.

Says the vaccine offered modest protection.

It does. An Actual Risk Reduction on 0.85% against mild to moderate Covid symptoms according to the Pfizer trial data. Nothing about hospitalisation or death.

China have proved that your beloved lockdowns and masks don’t work.

Who knows what China did? The rest of SE Asia…

Covid deaths per million citizens South Korea – 630
Thailand – 480
Japan – 463
Vietnam – 436
Myanmar – 353
Singapore – 288
Cambodia – 178

UK – 2900

The recent Cleveland study has shown conclusively that you are more likely to get Covid the more vaccine doses you receive

No it doesn’t.

What a bunch of losers!

Definition of loser: Creates new account regularly on biking forum to spam it with disinformation and abuse.

We seem to accelerating towards the point where they post explicit images just before the ban hammer hits them… again… so might be wise to browse the forum without images loading for a bit… ’till they’re gone… again.

It does. An Actual Risk Reduction on 0.85% against mild to moderate Covid symptoms according to the Pfizer trial data. Nothing about hospitalisation or death.

And your conclusion is…

The recent Cleveland study has shown conclusively that you are more likely to get Covid the more vaccine doses you receive

I assume you will be interested in reading the scientific study?

Well I read this bit:

“This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice”.

It also appears to be commenting on the relative ineffectiveness of existing vaccines against Omicron, having stated in respect to the original strain:

“The vaccines were amazingly effective in preventing COVID-19, saved a large number of lives, and changed the impact of the pandemic”.

Doesn’t even stand up to the mildest scrutiny, does it? The dangers of ‘doing your own research’, I guess.

Tip for your next iteration: better if you don’t directly link the (non peer-reviewed) paper, there are a few people on here who’ve actually read a few of these before.

Bollocks. I now recognise kt360’s style but I can’t remember his/her former username, quite frustrating. Although I reckon it will come to me eventually.

Definitely not a troll, definitely believes what they are saying, and definitely deeply emersed in the world of conspiracy theorists.

Edit: Used to have the username “arsebiscuits” I believe but has had a more recent one than that.

@kt360

How is it possible to catch more of a fictional disease that has been created by our great leaders to control people?

Are you admitting it actually exists!?

Bye bye you fool ! Got to love you conspiracy lot, you brighten our day with your idiocy. I’d sugest KT360 reads all the other studies than some crackpot’s video that’s just click bate.

He’s upset because everyone’s called him out ! Ho ho ho.

No it doesn’t.

+1. What, if anyone bothers to read, it does say that at least one dose is effective. It cherry picks a bit, loses it’s way a touch & doesn’t quote the most relevant points of the 2 papers it uses in it’s conclusion, which kt360 then either willingly or unknowingly distorts.

If it’s not peer-reviewed then it’s likely a load of bollox, and a ‘colleague’ will probably read it and hit them in the head for shoot data/assumptions.

Still a proud sheep in 2023, can’t wait for my next booster.

The last line of the study:

“In conclusion, this study found an overall modest protective effect of the bivalent vaccine booster against COVID-19, among working-aged adults. The effect of multiple COVID-19 vaccine doses on future risk of COVID-19 needs further study.”

As mentioned by Edukator on the thread you started but has since been closed, reduction of infection severity and morbidity is/was the goal.

Have they gone yet?

Ah I knew kt360’s previous username would eventually come to me – it’s veganrider.

Nah, he didn’t think covid, or pathogens in general, actually existed. This is the rantporn poster of yesteryear, who appears to have fallen further down his rabbit hole, sadly.

Ah I knew kt360’s previous username would eventually come to me – it’s veganrider.

I think you might be right..

Have they gone yet?

Must have been booted as I don’t think you can delete your own profile. And kt360’s profile is now empty.

Nah, he didn’t think covid, or pathogens in general, actually existed.

This is true, although the earth-shattering revelation that diseases don’t actually exist might have been put on hold for a more subtle approach.

Starting off by claiming Covid doesn’t even exist might have been seen as a poor strategy. Although insulting everyone isn’t much better it is probably harder to control.

Hopefully the poor mods will be able to perform a thread cleanse so it will be as if, like Covid, he never existed.

It must be like playing wac a mole for the mods on this thread😂

China have proved that your beloved lockdowns and masks don’t work.

so if lockdowns don’t work, what was it specifically that led to a recent explosion of cases, hospitalisations and deaths in China? China reported (leaked) 18% prevalence or 1/6. The UK has never managed greater than 8% in the ONS survey.

The area under the death time curve is lower for the UK than it would otherwise have been because the lockdown led to a period of vaccine induced protection from mortality when it was rolled out. Had there been no vaccine, the. Your premise is correct and lockdown would have made no difference. We would likely have seen the original number of deaths projected by Imperial, albeit over a longer period.

The first rollout of vaccines reduced numbers of infections from Wuhan strain. Variant emergence meant that the vaccine-induced neutralisation was lower but morbidity and mortality was much reduced (by about 10x). That still seems to be apparent for XBB. If you have not been vaccinated then you are at the increased risk of morbidity for whichever strain you might catch. Benefit risk is determined by whether adverse outcomes for vaccine outweigh that risk. For adults in general the data shows a positive benefit risk. For the elderly the effect is huge.

Debate is healthy and choice is important, but the science is much more certain now that it was in 2020.

What a bunch of losers!

Well, that was fun.

Well, that was fun.

You know what I don’t understand? Why someone like that doesn’t bother to read papers & articles properly? Save themselves a lot of angst & grief if they did..

What a bunch of losers!

Well, that was fun.

Well, at least they did eventually show a willingness to listen, learn and adjust. If only on how you spell “losers”.

MIL tested positive yesterday, along with 6 others in her care home, and now my SIL this morning who does most of the visiting.

She’s fully jabbed and relatively healthy for 85 and with dementia, so could go either way.

I don’t watch Campbell’s videos any more…. he’s been shown many times to jump to conclusions that bring in the views, but don’t stand up to scrutiny.

That’s being generous. He ranges from ignorant to downright dodgy.

Calls that facemask wearing while ill needs to become a norm.

Seems sensible to me, not least because it might make ill people think twice about heading out into public.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64161273.amp

Calls that facemask wearing while ill needs to become a norm.

Seems eminently sensible to me.

Proof that nominative determinism isn’t always a thing – otherwise he’d be a top environmental scientist rather than a thieving scumbag.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63872317

She’s fully jabbed and relatively healthy for 85 and with dementia, so could go either way

Best of luck to her. My mother, fully jabbed, 86 and with dementia, died in December from Covid. The care home had been really good all through the pandemic, avoiding Hancock’s mass discharge of infected people into care homes and managing the occasional infections among staff and residents really well. This was my mum’s first bout of Covid and she had no history of respiratory or cardio vascular issues so it was a bit of a shock.