- What ever happened to Scandium frames?
Cheers 🙂 , When i needed the cash for my Cove Hummer build last year i had it for sale on here for £400 ono which i thought was fair considering it has Mavic SLR wheels, Fox FX80 fork etc and lightweight kit but there was no takers but i’m rather glad to be honest, it really is rather stupid light for what it is and what it is capable off (rider permitting of course), if i find a suitable carbon rigid fork to suit the frame i may start to ride it again to annoy the fs strava freaks round here 😉Posted 4 years agojulianwilsonMember
I’ve recently bought an 8 year old scandium road bike (Salsa Campeon) and although its light and comfy, I would imagine that it is hard to sell a road bike like that competitively at that sort of price point (apart from the scandAl, iirc they were all at the expensive end of alloy frames) these days, when you could just source a carbon one and put your brand on the downtube, or god forbid design it yourself.
I would love a go on a juan solo, I always keep an eye out but haven’t seen one come up for sale for ages.Posted 4 years ago
My guess is the trades description people have finally caught up with the manufacturers…. so they probably do still exist but are now called aluminium frames as this is what 99.7% of a “scandium frame” consists of.
No frame is made from pure aluminium – that would be terrible – all are made from alloys of the material. My aluminium frame contains a tiny amount of silicon to improve the material properties – but its not called a “silicon frame” as silicon doesn’t sound as cool as Scandium.
Its all marketing BSPosted 4 years agoMacavityMember
Paul Sadoff trying to, but not quite, sell scandium at about 2:30 in,
“Keep in mind that Easton’s goal was to develop a new frame tube set that offered the light weight of aluminum and the comfort of steel.”Posted 4 years ago
But finally decided to abandon the attempt.DanWMember
I think ndthornton has it closest.
A “scandium” frame is basically and Alu frame with some trace scandium. Alu frames themselves are not especially popular now, especially at the mid to high end where a “scandium frame” becomes marketable so it is inevitable that the amount of “scandium” frames you will see will be tiny. KCNC are one of the few manufacturers I can think of off the top of my head producing “scandium” parts…Posted 4 years agonixonMember
I have a Kona One20 scandium frame, love it, it’s light, tough and most importantly fits me perfectly.
As a side note, while I haven’t seen any new scandium frames coming out, there are a couple of scandium rims set to be released soon.
Also, of course you can say a “scandium” frame is mostly aluminium, yet you wouldn’t say that a steel frame is mostly iron. Alloying makes a huge difference to the strengths and weaknesses of a metal, so I don’t see anything wrong with calling it a “scandium” frame, as it differentiates it from a standard aluminium alloy (which I think is justified, as “scandium” does have significant advantages over standard alloys).Posted 4 years agosam_underhillSubscriber
Got a nice Kona Kula Primo from around 07 which after a reliable innings as my only bike is now doing sterling service as my pub bike.Posted 4 years ago
It is a lovely frame and very light, but I’ve no idea if the trace scandium content made it better than a regular aluminium frame.
you wouldn’t say that a steel frame is mostly iron
Thats different – Steel contains traces of Carbon – not traces of steel.
The word Steel is used to describe the Refined Iron/Carbon mix and is a word in its own right.
Calling a frame Scandium implies it is made entirely of Scandium – the equivalent word to “steel” to describe the Aluminium/Scandium mix is Sc7000. As I said – not as marketable 😉Posted 4 years ago
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