University giving me chronic rage syndrome

I’ve worked in plenty of stressful situations, what get’s my gloat is when I’m paying for that privilege.

‘Get’s my gloat’? Oh dear. 😡

I have to admit that when I was at uni (both times) some of the lecturing was absolutely shocking. I had one maths professor who never made eye contact with a single student throughout the year – just stared at the back of the hall looking over the heads of 100 people. Tutoring sessions were a simple inconvenience between their latest research.

If I’d been paying £9k a year I would have been seriously p*d off!

Get’s my gloat’? Oh dear.

God damnit! Sunk my own battleship, read “goat”.

And the apostrophe?

Chewkw, I might listen to you if you could string a coherent sentence together. As it appears, you’re ability to do so is no better than my lecturers.

Oh teh ironing. 🙂

Okay Grum you win this time.

Git.

*Sheepishly put’s dunce hat on*

bwaarp – Member

Chewkw, I might listen to you if you could string a coherent sentence together. As it appears, you’re ability to do so is no better than my lecturers.

You failed … you think you are better than your lecturers.

mulv1976 – Member

If I’d been paying £9k a year I would have been seriously p*d off!

You failed too because foreign (ahem … overseas) students pay more than you for years!

Yay I win teh internetz!

I hope that apostrophe in ‘put’s’ is there as a joke!

You failed too because foreign students pay more than you.

Doesn’t that kind of play into my point? They pay even more extortionate fees and should therefore probably get semi-competent lecturers.

I hope that apostrophe in ‘put’s’ is there as a joke!

😛

I’m trying to have some fun. Realized I just put “You’re” where I shouldn’t have…..FFS!

I’ll get my coat….screw you guys….I’m going home.

bwaarp – Member

Doesn’t that kind of play into my point? They pay even more extortionate fees and should therefore probably get semi-competent lecturers.

No, paying fees got nothing to do with your ability to learn.

You failed too because foreign (ahem … overseas) students pay more than you for years!

I ‘fail’ to see your point. I’m sure they’d be pissed off too. The extent of pissed off-ness is not necessarily proportional to cost, its proportional to quality.

Edit: Second thoughts – you’re just trolling so forget it.

No it doesn’t but it does have everything to do with getting an education, there is a difference.

Also I don’t really see what learning has to do with poor or shoddy course material and examinations.

In fact I’m slightly perplexed by your choice of insults really, as a fellow troll I know one when I see them.

Anyway….I’m definitely off to bed now.

mulv1976 – Member
I’m sure they’d be pissed off too.

They sure do, yes, they sure do (Peter Griffin calm voice) … except that majority tend to get on with learning. Well, that’s based on my years at Uni.

They sure do, yes, they sure do (Peter Griffin calm voice) … except that majority tend to get on with learning. Well, that’s based on my years at Uni.

Sounds like you spent most of the time watching family guy 😀

bwaarp – Member
She hasn’t replied to my e-mails. In fact she hasn’t replied to half the classes angry e-mails.

Do you have any idea how many emails lecturers get? I got 14 today from students. Unfortunately i haven’t been able to reply to any because i’ve been in meetings all day. I’m on leave tomorrow, so the students will have to wait until Tuesday.

But at least yours has replied to half the class.

Also worth mentioning we’re bang in the middle of the offers phase of the UCAS cycle- if your lecturer is involved in selection, currently they probably have no free time at all.

Do you have any idea how many emails lecturers get? I got 14 today from students. Unfortunately i haven’t been able to reply to any because i’ve been in meetings all day. I’m on leave tomorrow, so the students will have to wait until Tuesday.

Ditto. I get about 50 a day, and that’s pretty low compared to some of my more senior colleagues. That’s also without undergrads, as currently being at a research institute, I have no teaching role.

I should add, most of those 50 actually need something to happen, be it a reply or some other form of action. On an average eight hour working day (which is so far from the truth it’s laughable), that would be one every 15 minutes. At some point, I’m expected to actually do my job too.

Assuming your lecturer is in a similar position, plus the load of teaching, I find it very unsurprising that you’ve not had a reply. These days, when academics say they are “too busy”, they really really mean it.

Just think of how much you could have learned in the library in the time you’ve spent not defending your case here. I’d suggest a book on basic English grammar would be a start, given your grocers’ apostrophe tendencies.

The lecturer is only at the university because a private company pays for her to be there…..she took on one module as a leader to earn some more money.

She only teaches this module and she has pawned all but one of the lessons out to guest speakers. She has nothing to do with admissions – if she’s so busy that she can’t run one module effectively then it’s questionable whether she should be running it.

I just found this out in an e-mail from an inside source. Fun times. As for the lecturers on here whining about how hard their jobs are, try working in the real world where you deal with customers. If people are paying extortionate amounts for an education expect them to act like consumers.

Let me also add I’ve just about had enough of the way universities seem to think they can get away with dire incompetency….for example I’ve had three pieces of coursework lost on separate occasions in close succession by one university departmental office. Nothing was done about that and they seemed to be perfectly happy to try and accuse me of never handing the work in until I produced photo’s of my work being posted through the pigeon holes. I never once received an apology for that one from the staff involved.

I’m going to go stateside next time where they understand the concept of competing for students money instead of taking it for granted.

Also, I find it somewhat hilarious that some people on here seem to think that a basic level of care is to hard here are the first ones to bang on about care at mid staffordshire etc. I mean if we can’t expect a lecturer to do a simple task like this properly what hope is there for medics in A&E departments up and down the country?

Brilliant way to encourage students to do their jobs well. Just brilliant…. encouraging a culture of mediocrity right from the outset.

Don’t panic. You’re perfect for an NHS career. You’ve got moaning down to a fine art already.

It doesn’t take much to write semi-competent MCQ’s. I could riff off 100 well worded questions answers 3 hours or so.

Actually, writing good exam questions is hard. I’m not talking about the quality of the writing (which sounds like the real issue here) but pitching the level correctly. Not too hard, not too easy, and somehow testing the student’s ability in an area rather than ability to pass a test.

Not my area so I can’t understand the details of the questions in doubt, but is it possible that they’re simpler than you think? Can often be the case if you’re a good student, seeing complexity where there is none.

Lecturers! – where do I start. Just spent the last two weeks completing some research for my degree, and the Doc leading it is nothing short of fantastic.
In contrast we had a lazy stupid statistics lecturer who decided to drop a new exam format on us. It was untested,used really slow software AND the b***y thing had to be completed in an hour.By minute 45, I had 6 out of 14 Q’s in the bag (and yes I had revised and knew my subject pretty well).It was so slow, none of us managed to finish the exam. So what did they do – gave equivalent marks from previous years students.
Wot! – seriously! – moaning did diddly squat (I’m the student rep and have an excellent relationship with teaching staff – or so I thought).
Upshot is that, lecturer stupid is still teaching, we got stuffed and moaning got us marks from other students.

Good luck with your protest mate.

try working in the real world

You should take your own advice.

paying extortionate amounts

It’s not really though, is it?

I’m going to go stateside

Well, at least something good will come out of this whole saga. Good luck paying for it.

bwaarp – Member

I just found this out in an e-mail from an inside source. Fun times. As for the lecturers on here whining about how hard their jobs are, try working in the real world where you deal with customers. If people are paying extortionate amounts for an education expect them to act like consumers.

Oh you just used the magic words: real world.

The idea universities and academia are not in the real is so grotesquely stupid any student that mentions it should be failed on the grounds of lacking any critical faculties. Here’s what i’ve had to deal with in my cushy little job in my ivory tower since January:

– Ten colleagues being made redundant because while their roles are important from an academic perspective, but management have decided we can do with them – we can’t. That is ten families living in the real world who have lost their main earner.

– Management who want to renegotiate our contracts because some consultant told them to. The impact will be lower standard of teaching and research unless we work our asses off on unpaid overtime. That is our families with less time to spend with mums and dads.

– Then there are the students who come to me with problems: [edit]on second thoughts i had better not list them in case anyone knows me, but imagine the worst problems posted on STW in the last two years, then consider these are happening to students aged 18-22, many living away from home[/edit]. As well as trying to maintain excellent teaching standards, attempting to scrape enough time together to research and publish, i have to help these students through these massive problems. You know what is even better? I can’t tell my colleagues about most of these issues because of data protection and promises of confidentiality.

– There’s the government increasing our pension contributions – against a recent agreement not to – to pay down the deficit (our contributions don’t go into a pension pot, they go straight to the Treasury). Plus we’ve gone four years with a proper pay rise.

But yeah, apart from that we live in a world separate from everyone else protected from the horrors of reality. Oh, and we also have to deal with the small percentage of students who think that just because they are paying for a degree they know better than us, despite the fact we’re experts in our field, with decades of teaching experience.

…and breath

mulv1976 – Member

Sounds like you spent most of the time watching family guy

Waahhhhaatt! (Stevie Griffin in his “surprise” tone)

What was the answer to the drug question?