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sootyandjim - MemberAre you being cremated or buried RB?
I'm sure there'll be a few gagging for a jig that day.
I'm sure there will be. I woon't want folk to sit around all maudlin. 😀
many STWers are little more than curtain-twitching 'Middle Englanders', believing that it is they who matter more than anyone else in society.
Word!
[b]x2[/b].Word!
You selfish bastards. You sit there, moaning about the fall in value of your house, or that you can't quite afford a new car, and blame everyone else for your own lack of fulfillment or achievement. Ask yourselves; what have you done to try and make better, the society you live in?
Not one for sweeping generalisations are ya Rude? 😉
First off I don't give a fiddlers furry cup for the price of my house - it is what it is and there's Jack I can do about it
What have I done for society, I manage a firm that is dedicated to getting people to recycle more on a community level and use recyclable materials to create learning opportunities for people who are marginalised by society - profits of which go back into the local community that supports the projects.
The ails of society WILL be cured when we realise that a capitistic society can not buy the good things in life like friendship,love and feeling good
Take this sorry website and STW - we are here not because of the price of the mag or in some misconcieved idea that chipps might get to cycle somewhere nice we are all here as we share a passion for mountain biking, anarchic views and multi cultural associations - what price that?
Capatalism can not buy kharma
I don't think
was at all STWers!you selfish bastards
Take this sorry website and STW - we are here not because of the price of the mag or in some misconcieved idea that chipps might get to cycle somewhere nice we are all here as we share a passion for mountain biking, anarchic views and multi cultural associations -
I'm here because I'm bored and like a wee scrap once or twice a week.
Labour/Conservative, it matters not a jolt who you vote for. The government always wins.
Labour/Conservative, it matters not a jolt who you vote for. The grabbing-self-serving ****s who pretend to be 'civil servants' always win..
HAHAHHAHAAH! RIGHT WING HIVE MIND! 😆
I'm here because the only nerds I know visit mountain biking forums 8)
I'm here because I'm bored and like a wee scrap once or twice a week.
You're Oirish that's why 😆
(I'll fight anyone for a pint!)
I'm here because I like talking to lesser people.
I'm here because I have a tiny penis...
Is this still going? Any portly thick thatcher lovers had apoplexy yet?
*pours a bit more petrol on the fire"
She was and remains unspeakably awful and did such damage to this country it still hasn't recovered. Blair was all her fault! She killed John Smith
sootyandjim - MemberI'm here because I like talking to lesser people.
Fred?
If we could talk to the animals, just imagine it
Chatting to a chimp in chimpanzee
Imagine talking to a tiger, chatting to a cheetah
What a neat achievement that would be.
If we could talk to the animals, learn their languages
Maybe take an animal degree.
We'd study elephant and eagle, buffalo and beagle,
Alligator, guinea pig, and flea.
We would converse in polar bear and python,
And we could curse in fluent kangaroo.
If people asked us, can you speak in rhinoceros,
We'd say, "Of courserous, can't you?"
If we could talk to the animals, learn their languages
Think of all the things we could discuss
If we could walk with the animals, talk with the animals,
Grunt and squeak and squawk with the animals,
And they could [b]squeak and squawk and speak and talk to us.[/b]
I'm here because I like talking to lesser people.
Now don't be rude, Hora is your equal in every respect. (see above) 😆 😆 😆
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I'm here because I have a tiny penis...
Did you know Kangaroo have two peni?
Dr Dolittle - I see the concept of Hora resorting to 'cut and paste' with a little editing of his own is completely lost on you, therefore you have just joined the lesser list.
and that a wallaby's penis is forked....
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Dr Dolittle - I see the concept of Hora resorting to 'cut and paste' with a little editing of his own is completely lost on you, therefore you have just joined the lesser list.
Sorry. It's just that I try not to presume a lack of "ability" with rightwingers. I do try really hard.
Anyway, does this mean I'm going to the gas chambers?
TS,I wish I had that book as a 12 year old. A bloody girl showed me how, can you believe it!?
Anyway, does this mean I'm going to the gas chambers?
Don't ask me, thats the kind of question you'll have to ask a right-winger for a response to.
Hey G this dummie is a female, who unlike you, didn't have a brilliant education or the opportunity to go to university. Being at an all girls school we only got taught crochet and cooking, all together now - arrrrr.
Yes Maggie did sell off a lot of social housing, surely the people that bought them ( many friends of mine) weren't made to purchase their council houses?
Anyway you have to admit Dennis was a real looker!
TandemJeremy - Member
She was and remains unspeakably awful and did such damage to this country it still hasn't recovered. Blair was all her fault! She killed John Smith
What! You've found found the smoking gun?
Come on Blackflag,
Keith, Ron, Dez or Hank? Spit it out.
Can we talk about breasts yet? I can only focus soo long on serious subjects before I think of Alpe D'uez.....hmmmmmm curvacious...
There are two kinds of people: people who think thatcher was an awful terrible blight on the people of this country. And the ones who made sh1tloads of money in the eighties.
Can we talk about breasts yet?
Thatcher's baps on a Thatcher thread?
Sickening.
Dr Dolittle - MemberTS,I wish I had that book as a 12 year old. A bloody girl showed me how, can you believe it!?
How is your sister bye the way? 😆
Bunnyhop - the council houses were sold at massive discounts and the councils were forbidden to use the receipts to build any more. Thats were the wrong was
How is your sister bye the way?
She's fine. Ten years of counselling and she reckons she's forgiven you.
Did your Ma get my card? I left it in her box, but neglected to lick her stamp properly.
😯
the council houses were sold at massive discounts
yeah, we all conveniently forget that it gave a nice foothold for lower income families as well dont we.
You know, thats what I love about Britain, we always forget the positives and have short memories of good deeds. Thats thanks in part to crooked Politicians and mistrust I guess.
Apparently she's still in hospital. There's hope yet.
it gave a nice foothold for lower income families
And the lower income families that came after the council housing was sold off and not replaced by her cabal? Do they exist?
What positive from selling off council houses? Effectively a massive taxpayer subsidy to people buying their council house. Round here most have ended up in the hands of absentee landlords now. This means the councils made a loss on selling them and now have to pay housing benefit at a much higher rate than council rent payments. The councils lose and lose.
I'd like £20 000 from the taxpayer to buy mu flat please
Thanks T.J for clarifing and not talking down to me like I'm durrr stoopid.
Yeah, some lucky purchases couldnt comprehend (or hold onto) this apperent windfall- the cycle puts them back into their poverty with bad purchases, bad saving and naivity in listening to bad ideas/advice from con-men. Like taking candy from a child...
Then again, how many more had a chance of ownership, pride, a foothold, investment, ideas etc? Newspapers etc dont like to hunt down the success stories do they? By their design, they need gloom to sell. I wonder, in many years time- how will the world view Margaret Thatcher and her policies?
I say to the knockers (mmmmmmmmm knockers)- do you think the deep depression/oil crisis and union deadholds of the 70's- if no one challenged these where would we be now?
Worse position perhaps? Would another leader have given in to the Argentinains? Yes- We DO need that oil for the future for many reasons.
Yeah, some lucky purchases couldnt comprehend (or hold onto) this apperent windfall- the cycle puts them back into their poverty with bad purchases, bad saving and naivity in listening to bad ideas/advice from con-men. Like taking candy from a child...
Yeah, but what about all the lower income families that came after Hora? Admit it, short term vote winners are not really sound policy, are they?
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If you can remember before Thatcher, back to the 3 day week, lightening strikes, flying pickets, power cuts, etc, it was a truly awful. However, the upside was reasonable high employment and a relatively strong social fabric.
Thatcher solved one and destroyed the other - bit broad brush but close enough.
IMO she is living proof that 2 terms is all a leader should be allowed to serve - too much power for too long. Blair was no different.
hmmmmmmm knockers
Hmmm, they're ok, but a bit unsubstantial wouldn't you say.
Just like Thatcher's deliberately short-sighted ideology regarding housing provision funnily enough... 😆
I can't comment on Thatcher's own chest. Was it nice?
rogerthecat- like the next government- there is going to be alot of painful adjustment due to the national debt we've run up. Tax rises, service cuts- you name it. In 10yrs time the next government will be blamed for alot of pain..
How long does it take to build council houses? Less than 12 years by any chance?
How long does it take to build council houses? Less than 12 years by any chance?
Trick question.
Thatcherites [b]don't[/b] build social housing.
Dont care who she is or what she's done, I would never wish anyone dead.
I would never wish anyone dead.
Oh yeah, tell that to the European Jews in 1936.
Thatcherites don't build social housing.
Surely some mistake?
Would unions support a Thatcherite government?
Dr Dolittle - I'll just get this time machine sorted out then I'll go back and tell them. WTF?
Would another leader have given in to the Argentinains? Yes- We DO need that oil for the future for many reasons.
What about the rest of the ****ing World? Christ, Hora; can you not see past your own nose? 800+ people died for that. So that Thatcher could show how 'tough' she was, and win another election. FFS...
I make no claims to being clued up about Economics, but **** me, Hora; you really do seem clueless at times. Some of you recent posts beggar belief.
And to compound it, Phil Collins has just come on the radio. 'Su-Su-Sudio'? WTF are you on about, Phil?
Are Hora and Phil Collins related?
Would unions support a Thatcherite government?
****ing right they did mate. You tell me, eh?
[b]Where's the Thatcherite social housing projects[/b] to replace all the lost stock, sold off at a pittance to gain a few votes though? Good for those in a position to buy at the time ( at the tax payers expense), but what about everybody that came afterwards? eh? Hardly the actions of someone with the best interests of the whole nation in mind wouldn't you say?
Well it appears the unions have supported the Thatcherite government that has been in power for the last 12 years, the one that has done sweet FA to seriously improve social housing.
Labour, party of the people. My ar*e.
Labour, party of the people. My ar*e.
Agree 100%,they're nothing but Thatcherite muck. I've been saying it for years, and it seems that the general population is slowly catching up.
But back to the social housing issue. Thatcher's govt sold it off for a pittance in a one-off vote winning policy didn't they? And that action has had rather unfortunate repercussions for Hora's lower income families ever since, hasn't it? And the Thatcherite Govts since haven't replaced that provision, have they?
You have to admit, it was a pretty shortsighted and stupid policy.
But Labour supporters are as guilty of the mess we're currently in for supporting a rose-tinted version of the party they all hate.
Perhaps if the 'proper' Labour party members and MPs had made a bit more noise about the shower of sh*te that was/is New Labour and not accepted Tony Blair and his Thatcher-loving mates so readily in a desperate attempt to get some chimps in red ties into Downing Street, no matter what the cost, we might still have a socialist alternative choice and they may actually have been voted into power [b]and[/b] have made a real difference.
Instead, the usual idiots who will vote for anything with a red rosette on no matter what the policies, voted in another Conservative party. Although a less honest version, who prefer to wear the costume of a party that once actually gave a flying fu*k about the masses rather than their political donation giving big business mates.
Are Hora and Phil Collins related?
I still remember walking past Old Trafford (had to climb out of a cab home as we coincided with the end of a Genesis concert)- I was shouting & giggling 'oi here is Phil Collins missus' (pointing to my GF)- boy, she was happy 😆
Agree with all that S&J, although I doubt the Tories are inherently any more honest that the NuLab crew. I don't see anything to suggest that.
The question still stands though. My opinion is that selling off social housing was not in the best long term interest of the country and was a selfish one off event that was to the detrement of the country, simply to get votes for the next election. Do you agree?
is she dead yet?
Hora - there were companies going round encouraging people to buy their council houses and guaranteeing to buy the house of the purchaser for a profit. These house were then rented out to benefit claimants at the maximum possible housing benefit rate. Thus people who would have been in council houses at a cheap rent paid by the council end up in the same house at a much greater rent that is paid by the council after the council have been forced to sell the house for less than its worth.
Much of Edinburghs less popular housing stock is now owned and rented like this
Not yet, headfirst. But come on; we want a build-up to the great event, surely? Weeks/months of pain and suffering, allowing betting shops to make a fortune from offering odds on the exact date of her passing. Come on; she'd love that, surely? Entrepreneurial spirit, and all that?
PS: I actually don't care if any Thatcherites think me a C for wishing pain and suffering on her. Go and argue that with the families of Argentinian sailors killed on the Belgrano, or with ex-miners...
Who is this Thatcher you all talk about, an evil twisted bitch,who hated men, abused her power,stole money off the poor,and gave it to her rich freinds,destroyed the working classes, and the unions,etc,etc.
Enough of the ex wife.
Now who was Thatcher.
Rudeboy - the suffering has been going on for a while - she has multi infarct dementia - a nasty nasty disease. that she is dying slowly of.
TJ; The flat I rent is ex-council. My rent is 2.5 times what the council rent is. My neighbours who are council tenants are shocked at what I pay.
Oh look, an evil fascist dictator! And General Augusto Pinochet...
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Dr Dolittle - MemberHow is your sister bye the way?
She's fine. Ten years of counselling and she reckons she's forgiven you.
Did your Ma get my card? I left it in her box, but neglected to lick her stamp properly.
She's fine thanks - you gotta spade?
as a fairly dispassionate observer of the Rudeboy vs Hora spat I'd just like to say that Mr Rudeboy comes over as a slighty hysterical SWP magazine waver which tends to colour the appreciation of his sub tabloid type argument. Just an observation of course....
As regards Thatcher - isn't it time that all y'all (as we say here in Texas) got over her - it was some time ago......
"destroyed the working classes, and the unions"
The Unions feel like they are the present when really, they are part of the historical makeup of moving on our social makeup.
She's fine thanks - you gotta spade?
Not [i]again[/i]...
😆 You eevall!
You still up this way at the end of the month?
Seriously, back off. I've got her back. Anyone as a young boy, watching the Falklands Conflict on TV, nay following the conflict and then later understanding her quandry why she had to- and sadly the Belgrano. Come on. read abit more into history and not wikipedia.
The Unions feel like they are the present when really, they are part of the historical makeup of moving on our social makeup.
Hey, you've won. Reading that I feel stupid, as stupid as the village idiot...
I can agree with the Falklands campaign, we were all behind Maggie - but how could you have ever supported Iraq or Afghanistan? WTF was that all about? Heroes led by donkeys....
At this point let me say this......Lindemans Vintage 2007 is sheeeeiiit!
Dinner guests just left with 3month old- they have a late night feed (11 apperently)- sooo Rum/Jagermeiser and...
Pinochet's mate - agree with the tag. Thats hard to swallow. Agree.
Aye TS, getting some accom sorted (well my secretary is). I'll give you a shout during the week to arrange something.
Cool! Be good to hear a 'homeland' voice rather than taffies or limeys'
Tankslapper - speak for yourself. I was certainly not behind Maccie on the flaklands as a pacifist and internationalist.