I was quite interested in one until I saw them in the metal – the geo looks quite good on paper. Practically, they give every impression of being built to a price, not to a standard.
The way the seatstays are welded onto the side of the top tube is IMO hideous. Doesn’t look like any effort has been made to blend the stays in – just plonk ’em down and smother ’em with weld. Fine on a £200 BSO, not on a £1400 frameset.
The big thing though was the cable guides at the top of the D/T. There’s 3 welded in ports for internal routing, and a 4th plain hole (I guess for Di2 wires). All in the same plane around the D/T, just below the HT, probably THE most stressed part of the bike. On the frame I looked at, the DI2 hole looked very 50p shaped with obvious corners as if it had been drilled by hand with a cheap twist bit and then left. Given the somewhat cracky reputation of Ti frames at the best of times, putting 4 potential fatigue starters in a line just there feels like a recipe for disaster. Maybe someone has done the sums and its all massively overbuilt, but it didn’t inspire confidence.
Being steel, the Cascade and Alice will be at least a pound heavier (maybe nearer 2) than the Camino.