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  • Pizza stone woes – why does my pizza stick
  • the00
    Free Member

    We got a pizza stone for Christmas, great. The instructions said not to use oil or flour on the stone, as they would burn on. So we haven’t, and both times we have tried pizza in the oven on the stone, the pizza base has completely welded to the stone. What am I doing wrong?

    My dough has been tacky but not too wet.

    TBH we don’t eat pizza often, so hoped the stone might be useful for flat bread and soda bread. Both have stuck in the same way.

    Is a pizza stone actually rubbish?

    njee20
    Free Member

    Sorry, nothing helpful to add!

    tommyhine
    Full Member

    My one works fine but I try and get a pretty dry dough on before I get it on there. Try and flour the doh a bit more when you kneed it, might work.

    MrAgreeable
    Full Member

    Quite possibly. Everyone I know who has one seems to have received it as a present. Try polenta.

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    I always use ground semolina below the pizza. I make them on the wee cheap ikea plastic boards, the semolina makes it easy to slide from the board onto the stone, even fully loaded. Get your oven and the stone as hot as you can.

    I can honestly say that I’ve never had a pizza stick to the stone. My mate uses his pizza stone in his weber BBQ, with the lid on, I’ve yet to give it a bash.

    Edit – ground semolina is polenta, just couldn’t remember it’s other name!.

    titusrider
    Free Member

    we found with ours that once it had been used a few times it improved quite a bit. looks pretty ming but its all burnt off as you heat it up and the coating of old food really stops it sticking 🙂

    I like ours a lot, homemeade pizza FTW 🙂

    +1 for slightly dryer dough and getting it really hot first

    lemonysam
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    Are you getting the stone hot enough? The dough will stick if it’s underheated. If it’s a big stone then you’ll need to wait a good half hour after the oven light goes off.

    Personally I seasoned my pizza stone and don’t regret it however pizza geeks would probably cast me out.

    cp
    Full Member

    are you getting the stone hot before you put the pizza on or are you putting the pizza on to a cold stone?

    It needs to be hot before you put it on…

    Never had a problem with mine. Never wash it between uses – just scrape off remnants and back into the cupboard.

    Rusty-Shackleford
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    Turn oven up full whack and heat stone for a while so that its hotter than a very hot thing, before turning oven down (if needed) to cook the pizza. Check base is cooked by lifting edges of pizza and use metal pallet knife or fish slice to free the middle of the pizza if its stuck slightly. Only ever had an occasional problem with very thin bases where the topping has seeped through.

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    If it’s a big stone then you’ll need to wait a good half hour after the oven light goes off.

    😯

    So I’d have to ‘bake’ a stone in the oven for half an hour before I can put something in there that’s going to take about 10 minutes to cook.

    Not exactly energy efficient is it?

    cp
    Full Member

    ps…. mmmm, thanks for this thread, homemade pizza = dinner sorted.

    Grizla
    Free Member

    Polenta/corn meal +1.

    Roll/stretch your dough out on a surface with a bit of corn meal on it, and let it stand for a bit before you load it up.

    Cheese or tomato sauce leaking over the sides might make it stick too.

    cp
    Full Member

    I just leave mine in the oven whilst its warming up, give it a couple of mins after the light has gone out and go for it.

    piemonster
    Free Member

    Get that bugger fully pre-heated. Then use semolina (or summink like that) to ease the passage. Don’t load the topping until the last minute.

    I use a peel, but then I’m a pretentious ****

    And don’t stick a cold stone into a hot oven, it should be heated to temp gradually.

    andyl
    Free Member

    We normally flour ours tbh. Domestic ovens not as intense as a pizza oven. But my first thought was semolina as I had heard this was common.

    Rusty-Shackleford
    Free Member

    Go to Pizzamaking.com for the full-on geek help – best pizza resource on t’web.

    Grizla
    Free Member

    So I’d have to ‘bake’ a stone in the oven for half an hour before I can put something in there that’s going to take about 10 minutes to cook.

    Not exactly energy efficient is it?

    Yep. Makes for a lovely crisp base though.

    If you don’t “bake” your stone it won’t be as hot as the rest of the oven and will actually hinder the cooking.

    lemonysam
    Free Member

    Not exactly energy efficient is it?

    No not really. That’s not normally my primary concern when cooking though.

    Grizla
    Free Member

    If you don’t have a peel, you could make your pizza up on a bit of baking paper, then transfer it paper and all onto your stone, from a chopping board or similar.

    It’ll still cook alright.

    I’d still use the polenta if doing it that way.

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    You have to have the stone super hot, the idea is to dump a lot of heat quickly into the base. I just use a big floor tile I got from a tile shop ( for free when I told them what it ws for). Never sticks. If it still sticks even if super hot then I would put a bit of flour on

    Liking the idea of using it in the BBQ, top tip

    joolsburger
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    This works better than a stone for pizza at home IMHO.

    http://www.jamieathome.com/shop/products/Essentials-Pizza-Tray-100745BLK.html

    fuzzhead
    Free Member

    pizza sticking = stone not hot enough or pizza not cooked IME

    freddyg
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    Throw it in the bin. They’re crap.

    My missus bought one (and an ‘onion chopper’ FFS (a whole separate rant is required for this subject)) at some ‘party’. Complete waste of money – it doesn’t work if you follow the instructions. To get it to work, you have to spend a fortune on electricity to heat the f’ing thing until it’s almost molten. Grrrr 👿

    One like the link in Joolsburgers post is what you need in a conventional oven. If you want authenticity, build a wood-fired pizza oven in the garden.

    titusrider
    Free Member

    joolsburger, you are welcome to your opinion… you are wrong though 😉

    johndoh
    Free Member

    Oddly, the pizza stone I have has instructions to say NOT to pre-heat it.

    lemonysam
    Free Member

    To get it to work, you have to spend a fortune on electricity to heat the f’ing thing until it’s almost molten.

    Running an oven for an hour costs what, about 30p?

    the00
    Free Member

    Doh. I thought pre-heating the stone might be the answer! Easy fix, maybe pizza tonight to see how it goes 🙂

    the00
    Free Member

    I think I might have been thrown off by the instructions too.

    grum
    Free Member

    Meh – surely you are all not making the bases thin enough if you can easily move the pizza onto a hot stone?

    lemonysam
    Free Member

    Meh – surely you are all not making the bases thin enough if you can easily move the pizza onto a hot stone?

    Or you’re not very good at moving pizzas.

    the00
    Free Member

    We have a metal tray too, but never really got on with it. The lip around the edge doesn’t help. It is used for warming parties through (yum).

    tinybits
    Free Member

    As above, get the stone so hot it’s making the sun look like a place to go skiing, then my next trick, put pizza on a well floured piece of baking paper. Put the whole thing, paper and all onto the red hot stone. When cooked, remove from the oven and the paper should come easily off the back, slice using park tools pizza wheel, and put pizza back directly on the stone to eat from. Lovely crispy, hot tasty (not full of shite) pizza.
    Not energy efficient? Do people actually think like this when cooking? However it’s a lot cheaper overall than spending £25 from pizza hut…
    Also, try caramelised pear and Stilton on a nice garlic tomato and basil sauce. You’d be amazed how nice it is!

    the00
    Free Member

    polenta ‘bearings’ sounds like a plan for easy sliding onto a hot stone.

    njee20
    Free Member

    Jesus. This is a pretentious discussion! Must say I agree with the “putting the stone in the oven for 3 days to preheat is way too much faff” thing.

    Used to have one of those round trays with the holes in, worked just fine!

    lemonysam
    Free Member

    Jesus. This is a pretentious discussion! Must say I agree with the “putting the stone in the oven for 3 days to preheat is way too much faff” thing.

    It’s exactly the same amount of “faff”, it’s just a half hour longer wait for your pizza. This isn’t exactly **** rocket science.

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    This isn’t exactly **** rocket science.

    No pizza stones in the ISS then?

    lemonysam
    Free Member

    Not sure, I’ve not had a chance to watch that video. The potential for zero gravity pizza mouth seems pretty serious though.

    joolsburger
    Free Member

    OK so cooking a pizza properly requires about twice the heat a domestic oven can actually put out. Which is why a wood fired oven or pizza oven is better. That jamie thing lets you put the dough onto the tray cold, add your toppings and then cook for about 8 minutes at 240 deg makes for a lovely crispy base etc. Not as “authentic” as a stone but does make cracking pizza without fuss.

    BiscuitPowered
    Free Member

    Wouldn’t be without our pizza stone, or the traditional Friday pizza we make on it most weeks!

    As others have said, once the stone absorbs a bit of oil from previous uses and has a bit of ‘patina’, sticking tends to be a thing of the past. I wash ours after each use, but only with a scourer and plain water. Don’t ever use detergent as the stone can absorb it and taint anything cooked on it in future.

    I also find a light dusting of flour on the stone helps, never had it burn on yet.

    Also put the stone in the oven as you turn it on.

    When the dough base is ready, quickly take the stone out of the oven and lay the base on top and then leave it for a few minutes to rise a bit before putting on the toppings.

    phil.w
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    Oddly, the pizza stone I have has instructions to say NOT to pre-heat it.

    More than odd, it’s just plain wrong.

    The whole point of a stone is to cook directly from the bottom and more importantly to maintain an even oven temp.

    It can’t do either of these if it’s cold.

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