Peugeot partner / Citroen Berlingo how many bikes?

New year new van….

Initial looking at Peugeot partner or a Berlingo as it’s the right size for my buisness, but wondering if you can easily fit two bikes in without taking a wheel off. Would love to go with a 2.0 expert but it’s a fair wedge of cash more….

I currently have a transit connect and it’s doable but only without the bulkhead…

I have an older Pug Partner multispace, I’ve had 3bikes and people in it, that was with the 60%seat down and wheels off bikes. My massively long XL 29er has to have the front wheel off even on its own.

Good van but just slightly too small for bikes/sleeping in but perfect for hiking/dog walking etc.

Mmmm – may have to spend the extra. The expert is wider to so more comfortable at the front – looking at them this week….

Made a fork mount rack to go inside my Berlingo. Standard length, not the XL. Can easily get 3 bikes in standing upright with plenty of space left over. The back seats fold individually so could probably manage 3 bikes with only 2 seats down. Though not tried.

2 bikes with both wheels on should fit if they’re not massive. Just need to find a way to hold them in place without scuffing everything. That’s why I use a home made fork mount that cost about £5.

There’s a lot of height too. I made a false floor with drawers about 15cm tall and the full width/length of the boot and can still get bikes in upright with the front wheels off.

I’ve a Puggy Partner Outdoor…can get 3 27.5″ bikes in but only 1 is fully built. That is 3 bikes inside with 3 people as well…if I removed wheels I’m pretty sure I could get 4 bikes with wheels stacked about.
Complete bikes I could get 3 complete 27.5 bikes in and 2 people up front…
For sizing that is a large Bird Aeris 120, a medium Bossnut and a medium Merida full suspension thing.

Even current gen no bigger than than your current connect.

But the b9 on are wider and longer than the m49/59 prehistoric models + more refined.

Expert/dispatch good vans just be aware they don’t handle heavy weight well. Suspension components just can’t take it as well as say a transit.

So avoid anything that shows signs of being used as say builders van…… – my old man’s lasted 3 years before being chopped back in for a an nv400

I have an ’05 plate Berlingo.

With the double rear seat removed I can easily pop my 29er in compete leaning up against the single rear seat, no way you’d get two in like that.

I’ve found that 3 bikes & 3 people travel best in it with the double rear seat removed & front wheels removed. 3 bikes stack up along the offside, top & tail style and the seat belt is then wrapped around the last bikes seatpost keeping them all snug in transit.

Your welcome to pop round and have a nosey if you like.

My friend’s got a Berlingo and we got 3 bikes in it easily a while ago but my Large T130 (so not that big a bike) had to have the front wheel off.
Her Small spectral fits easily but she’s just bought a new 29er and thinks it’ll have to have the front wheel off to fit.

Used to have a kangoo van. Back in the mid 2000s you could fit a large 26er with the front wheel turned, in the back of the van no probs. 2 easily, 3 at a push.

However even early 29ers were a bit long for it.

I imagine getting modern 29ers in will be a struggle without the front wheel out.

The L2  version should accommodate bikes with the wheels on, certainly easy in my LWB Connect.

I had 2007 Berlingò for years and did hundreds of bike trips in all different configurations

1 or 2 bikes fit with all wheels on

3 bikes 3 people fit with one wheel off one of the bikes and both wheels on the other 2

4 bikes 4 people can be done with a 3 bike towbar rack

5 bikes 2 people works really well with some 3d printed fork mounts

I have an older Pug Partner multispace,

Mmmm – may have to spend the extra.

When you say ‘new van’ do yo mean new rather than used? The current berlingo / partner is two generations on from RNP’s car and is larger (and the curent one comes in two wheelbases)

The expert is wider to so more comfortable at the front

Again if you’re talking new dont be too sure that the current Expert is roomier in the cabin. The middle (if fitted) is useless in either van, but in general the Expert is more cramped in the cabin. I fiound the belingo much more comfortable

I currently have a transit connect and it’s doable but only without the bulkhead…

I’ve not driven the two-seat version of the current Berlingo /partner so not sure what the seat arrangement is for them  but in the 3 seat versions with their seat folding mechanism it mounted on the bulkhead (its very clever – the seat base folds up and the door is wide with a low threshold so the footwell becomes quite a usable cargo space) and the seatbelts achors are part of the bulkhead too so you can’t really take it out.

Even current gen no bigger than than your current connect.

The current partner is slightly (100mm) shorter in load space than my connect according to Google – hense the thread. I can fit my large 29r and a mates large 27.5 in fully built. But that’s with the bulkhead removed and a front wheel slotted down the back of the drivers seat and the other just poking between the seats.

Looks like two would fit diagonally across the load space though.

@qwerty thanks for the offer, but I’m having a look at both a partner and a expert next week with the wife, who will also have a big say. She’s more concerned about space up front as her and daughter will have more room in the expert.

Expert/dispatch good vans just be aware they don’t handle heavy weight well.

Thats ok – it’s only for picking up village shop stock 2 or 3 times a week as a 9-5 van, and the occasional door to door delivery. It won’t be a builders van. Or taking regular heavy loads.

When you say ‘new van’ do yo mean new rather than used?

New to me and new shape, but used. Looking at sub 100k 2019 models 10-15k budget. Professional level trim and 1.6 engine in the partner and the 2.0 in the expert.

Both vans I’m looking at this week are main dealer.

She’s more concerned about space up front as her and daughter will have more room in the expert.

The middle seat in the Berlingo is just daft. The seat as a whole unit is very clever with folding features, moveable bits, storage, a sort of slid out desk. Its a real Swiss army knife of a seat. Useless for actually sitting on though. Partly because its so narrow (and it east into the main passenger seat too making their seatbelt position  but also the the dash mounted gearstick is on a unessicarily huge binnacle so theres not really anywhere for the middle passengers legs

The expert is a little wider whilst  also being pretty pokey with a low roof and very  low windscreen (if you put the sun visor down you can’t really see the road) you also often see traffic lights if your at the front of the queue – but suffers from the same great big protrusion on the dash for the gear stick – theres very little space between the seat edge and that.and it also impinges the drivers leg space a fair bit.

If your daughter needs to be in any form of car seat or has legs.

Do your self a favour and buy a multi space of either vehicle.

Oh it’s only for very occasional short trips for three of us (once every couple of months if that). We have a family car for family trips. Absolutely no chance of affording a rifter or traveller. But this is why I think she’ll go along with the expert over the partner.

Had a B9 Berlingo Multispace (the one before the current model) and with all seats out I could easily wheel two large/long bikes in diagonally.

I’ve got a B9 van with the bulkhead in. Two L 29ers go in whole. 5 bikes in with the wheels off. With the bulkhead out, I’ve had two L 29er and a M 27.5 in.

Edited to add, I’ve got the model with the collapsible passenger seat in the front. Means I can sleep in it with a couple of bikes with the front wheels off as well. For scale, I’m 6’2.

B9 Multispace XTR owner here. I purcased it because of the following.

Air con to dry my shoes/ boots in the passenger footwell.
Space for two built bikes plus two people and two dogs.
Space for two dogs, bikes, people and bikepacking kit if front wheels (of bikes) removed.
Space for three people and three bikes plus weekend away kit. And a dog.
All inside the vehicle.

I have a B9 Partner Teepe Outdoor and get two large 29ers in without removing any wheels. It’s the reason I bought it. I’ll take a photo later if you want?

I know someone with the newest version and he has to remove the front wheel to get his 650b bike in.

I currently have a transit connect and it’s doable but only without the bulkhead…

I regularly fit two large 29ers wheels in in my std connect bulkhead in. Most to date is those two 29ers plus two bikes front wheel off

Ended up getting a 2019 plate 2.0 Expert – wife and daughter could fit (just) upfront and dog can go in a cage behind the bulkhead with the long length hatch removed. Recon I can get a sender ramps stage 900 next to the age and still have a practical van with  more than enough room for the buisness.

Daft question but how do you open the drawer if you have the bikes in place? I’m thinking the kit is against the bulkhead so the drawer is blocked…is it not?

You can flip the bike carrier around that’s on top so the bikes face the other way or have them completely separate.

Ah ok, so it would be set with drawer facing back door and remove bikes and frame and drawer works…thanks.