Jam Shed Red Wine – Disturbed sleep

Can’t comment on Jamshed wine, but a dram of talisker scotch puts me into a seriously foul mood, don’t get it with cheap blends!

The occupational therapists giving a return to work course to long Covid sufferers for my local foundation trust suggested restricting drinking to no later than lunchtime for the sake of sleep quality. I thought this was hilarious, but perhaps a bottle of Jam Shed would go down better with breakfast or lunch. Food for thought.

I’ve found increasingly that half a bottle of red is my limit, or I’ll have disturbed sleep and a headache the next day. But then I wouldn’t sink 6 pints during a football match.

Quite tempted to try this wine next Friday, for the sake of science. Haven’t had a decent dream for ages.

I think the conclusion from this is that you should stick to drinking good quality wine with reputable provenance, rather than some strange mix from various countries and sources.

I’ve never had Jam Shed (the name would put me off plus I’m not keen on Malbec) but apparently it is from Mendoza in Argentina which is typical Malbec country.

However, most people who go to the pub on an evening will probably drink more than 4 pints.

if I go to watch a football match in the pub, I’m probably there for about 2.5 hrs, typically would have 5 or 6 pints in that time. The same for the majority of people in there.

I honestly think it’s nearly 40 years ago, maybe more, since I drank more than two pints of an evening. I don’t know anyone who drinks that much. I couldn’t drink 5-6 pints and be able to walk home! As I often drink outside of town, two is an absolute maximum.

I bought a bottle of Yellowtail Jammy Red Roo a couple of weeks ago, something I rarely do, and I made that last three evenings. A wee bit rich, I’ll get something a bit different next time, but if I drink wine it’s always a red. No disturbed sleep, quite the contrary. ?

Why do teetotal temperance types bother to open a thread about alcohol?

Is it so they can be pious and waffle on about how they don’t drink?

Said like someone who’s never been on this forum before.

Did you never actually notice that pretty much any thread ever posted here attracts people who know nothing or are diametrically opposed to the original premise. i could, for example, post a thread titled, for example, ‘I ate an entire e-bike in one sitting and now I have bad indigestion and feel like grim death, any idea why?’ and within ten posts, someone will pop up to say that e-mtbs are the devil incarnate, anyone who rides an e-mtb is a fat, lazy slob and they are unreliable pieces of overpriced garbage.

None of which is strictly relevant, but that’s how it goes and mostly is factored in.

I have reread the thread and can’t see anyone say anything about abstaining?

What i said was a bottle of wine was plenty enough to mess up your sleep. Factoring all the variables, emotional state, tiredness etc it could easily do weird stuff to your dreams.

And hunting for other reasons is a bit like blaming your epic two dayer hangover on a bad pint.

It is known to me as “Jam Shed Poor”, in a cunning play on words re Jamshedpur.

And still no-one has adequately explained why drinking a small bottle of red wine would impact sleep.

I’d like to propose an alternative explanation, which is that it could be coincidence and nothing to do with the wine whatsoever. Sometimes people just have random, vivid dreams and disturbed sleep.

And still no-one has adequately explained why drinking a small bottle of red wine would impact sleep.

Apart from you?  Or rather Dan Lloyd in the video you posted?

And still no-one has adequately explained why drinking a small bottle of red wine would impact sleep.

Google says it has 9.4 units of alcohol in it.  I think that provides adequate explanation surely.  I love a few glasses of wine, beer, gin and whisky, pretty much most booze, but have realised as i get older that any more than 3 or 4 units, whatever the tipple, messes big time with my sleep.

Apart from you?  Or rather Dan Lloyd in the video you posted?

That was the other me.

My point is that regardless of that, coincidence is not causation. The OP needs to glug at least one more bottle of Jam Rolypoly and see if the same thing happens. If it does, it may be that simply drinking more of it, say two or three bottles, prevents it from happening. Only through extended experimentation can we be reasonably sure.

Maybe its all the sugar in it.  Its soo sweet….

yep, my partner for some reason loves this and the 19 crimes stuff too. gives me way worse hangovers than the wines i like (lighter rhones)

Maybe you’re lactose intolerant and reacting to all the milk in it? Cheese gives you mad dreams after all!

I googled sulfites in wine, and I think sweeter wines (more sugar) and ‘new world wines’ (from further away, more travel time) require more sulfites to keep them stable and palatable?

My ‘Kingpin’ is from Spain but quite sweet still, so I guess I should experiment with something less sweet and from as close as possible (and ideally £15/bottle).

Also for what it’s worth I’ll join the abstinent killjoys, a whole bottle to myself in a single night is definite shit sleep/hangover territory no matter what the wine, am astonished that’s considered ‘not a lot’!

Edit: dammit, thought smileys were working again…

“And still no-one has adequately explained why drinking a small bottle of red wine would impact sleep”

LOL

My wife says that she gets on better with low- and no-sulphite wine from the posh biodynamic wine shop up the road. I’m not completely convinced but it’s interesting wine and usually far better than the stuff I would have bought so I don’t complain.

My ability to cope with alcohol has certainly diminished over the years. Which is probably no bad thing as it’s helped encourage me to cut down a bit.

And still no-one has adequately explained why drinking a small bottle of red wine would impact sleep

Not sure about the “why”, but alcohol definitely has an impact on sleep quality. If you’ve got a Garmin (or whatever) and you wear it 24×7, you can clearly see when your sleep score drops after having a drink or two. (And it really is a drink or two – a full bottle of wine would be more than enough to have an impact).

anyone who rides an e-mtb is a fat, lazy slob

If you had eaten a full-fat e-mtb all by yourself in 1 sitting then that statement would probably be accurate!

The issue is likely to be caused by a lot of sulphates in the wine – this isn’t a new thing, but wines with a lot of sulphates can cause issues – like very blocked sinuses, disturbed sleeps, thumping headaches. If you can find a wine with less sulphates then you shouldn’t feel quite so bad after drinking it.

What the flip is Jam Shed?

Oh?

Nevermind.

They’re a bit cagey on their alcohol content.

As for sulphites, they’re complicated.

^^^

Google says it has 9.4 units of alcohol in it.

thumping headaches

Absolutely searing headaches here on occasion. And not hangover type headaches, almost instantaneous “turn of the lights” head shrinkingly bad ones.

The same as if you open a pack of beta bisulphide to sterilise bottles

like very blocked sinuses

Bingo! I’ve been getting sinus symptoms that the GP put down to ‘allergic rhinitis’ but I’ve never been able to pin down what I’m allergic to! (the symptoms aren’t that bad so I’ve been a bit lazy trying to figure it out).

Definitely worse after booze but I’ve never made a note of what booze exactly…

Have you tried the Aldi rip off as a comparison? They’ve not exactly made much of an effort in hiding their impersonation, but apparently it’s the sincerest form of flattery

I don’t have a sweet tooth at all and find Jam Shed a bit sugary, personally, but that’s just me. I didn’t know they did a Malbec as well as the Shiraz. I’ll have to give it a go… purely in the interests of scientific research, obviously  😀

Until recently i drank every night and never had a sleep problem. For lardy fat boy reasons i stopped drinking mid week. Now when i drink at the weekend i get a crap nights sleep. I want a refund.

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Not sure about the “why”, but alcohol definitely has an impact on sleep quality. If you’ve got a Garmin (or whatever) and you wear it 24×7, you can clearly see when your sleep score drops after having a drink or two. (And it really is a drink or two – a full bottle of wine would be more than enough to have an impact).

Odd thing is I’ve found the opposite!

My last alcoholic drink was Sep 27th and my sleep has been much worse according to my Garmin, I am also feeling really tired by mid afternoon so that would follow the sleep quality? No weight loss either despite replacing red wine with herbal tea’s & my blood pressure has risen slightly.