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  • GaVgAs
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    I have just had a brilliant weeks riding around Aberdeenshire in Scotland,everyone I met were so friendly and I never encountered one “no cycling” sign anywhere.

    In the Lakes where I live they have recently reclassified many of the ancient byways to Bridleways.While I can understand the concerns of other user groups to motorised use of these trails, banning legitimate use has simply moved the mxers/trail riders to an underground status.
    Several once law abiding riders I know now ride evenings more or less wherever they like 😕
    It sadens me to see extensive damage to places like Sephensons ground near Coniston,I understand its still a civil offence to ride on private ground, I cant see how Mountainbikers can be prosecuted if theres no one to enforce a penalty of some sort. 🙄

    buzz-lightyear
    Free Member

    leaving trails in their wake and causing disturbance to flora and fauna.

    Of course hordes of visitors on foot don’t do this. Neither do the hundreds of half-tonne ponies or the riding horses. 🙄

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    leaving trails in their wake and causing disturbance to flora and fauna

    I had no idea my farts were so distressing to nature 😳

    hilton83
    Free Member

    Would you actually stop to let someone try and fine you? I would’nt, i’d pedal like fawk screaming chase me chase me 😀

    swamptin
    Free Member

    And here was me thinking I’d moved to a more cycle friendly country… Well, breaking forestry by-laws hasn’t been much of a concern for cycling as a sport in the past, can’t see why I should be too worried now.

    Alternately, there is a temptation to incur one of these fines, take it to court and try and get a judge to uphold the fine. Perhaps it could set a precedent? ‘If horses can squash little birds and eat endangered species of plants, cyclists can avoid doing so wherever they please off-road.’ It’d be nice to see…

    40mpg
    Full Member

    It does seem to be a very local issue. I’ve just spent a very pleasant weekend in the quantocks, where everyone I met was most welcoming – locals, all the visitors from the New Forest (seems to be a focus for us!), horse riders, walkers, publicans, farmers etc.

    Back home in the Forest now to read this, which crops up every couple of weeks in the local press. No problems in areas immediately adjacent – Moors Valley, Lordswood etc, just the Forest.

    A couple of things to point out about the ‘aggreived parties’

    – the commoners are the ones with the ponies and a huge free farm to feed them on, the CDA (Commoners Defence Association) defend their rights to this free farm.

    – The New Forest Association is a group of commoners and verderers with an agenda to close campsites, car parks, restrict dog walking and (even) horse riding, close some roads and ban cycling again.

    – The Verderers are the ruling body and represent the above.

    None of these has any interest in tourism, local economies or conservation beyond maintaining their own rights to the Forest.

    Fortunately the Forestry Commission and local groups have a wider view, or we might as well just put a fence round it all and lock the gate.

    It really is a lovely place to visit though, and chances are you will be totally oblivious to the above!

    amodicumofgnar
    Full Member

    The fall out continues from the Countryfile story then. If an event happens in the forest and no body films it…

    bigad40
    Free Member

    How slow do you have to be riding to be seen by a slowmo like that… and then caught… and fined??

    Mike_D
    Free Member

    The fall out continues from the Countryfile story then.

    I don’t think it’s got anything to do with that. As 40mpg says, it comes up regularly — someone seems to raise bikes as an issue at every meeting of the CDA/NFA/Verderers and the Echo laps it up because it’s got pages to fill. All a bit tragic really.

    FieldMarshall
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    All this bad publicity clearly seems to be having some kind of knock on effect.

    Was out at 7.30 on Sun morning. Beautiful morning. Stuck totally to the gravel tracks.

    Slowed down for every dog walker I saw, said hello or thanked them for restraining their dog. Not one of them had the courtesy to say hello back. And one particularly miserable chap completely turned his back on me.

    You normally get the odd grumpy git, but that was out of the ordinary. How can people be so miserable on such a nice day, in such a beautiful place.

    Then again even the MTBer I passed didnt bother to say hello.

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