My slacks aren’t beige, they are more custard cream colour much like my hush puppies 🙂

Most crv drivers would never be pushing hard enough to notice the rear wheels being driven!

I’ve just had a go in my old mans brand new forester xt, and can confirm it is far superior to pretty much any other SUV type vehicle. He has replaced his freelancer with the subaru ( having previously has a forester). Only down side is the depreciation, but as it’s such a good car why would you want to sell it?

I have driven several Nissan cumquats, x trails, crvs, freelanders etc, they are all dull and poorly engineered by marketing departments. Subaru marketing department is run by engineers, that’s why they don’t sell many!

Seems like an oversight, should get some marketers in to do that bit. 😛

Mike I thought you lived in NZ?

He lives in Tasmania having emigrated with his mrs a couple of years ago (although they’ve now split up). It’s amazing what you can learn about people by reading what they write. Rather than typing whatever verbal diarrhoea springs into your mind. You should try it.

Subaru marketing department is run by engineers, that’s why they don’t sell many!

I thought this was partly down to a lack of dealerships as FHI have been partly owned by other car manufactures who have import restrictions on numbers of models (like nissan and toyota building cars in the uk to get round this) and Subarus were made in Japan? It’s always interesting to see how much of a Subaru is ‘Subaru’ and which parts say other car makers names on them. I do like Subarus they are very good cars.

The marketing department were in overtime circa 2001 when Imprezas were everywhere in car magazines. I remember buying a copy of evo and getting an impreza calendar and loads of adverts for the car inside. Not bad marketing work for engineers 🙂

I’ve just had a go in my old mans brand new forester xt, and can confirm it is far superior to pretty much any other SUV type vehicle. He has replaced his freelancer with the subaru ( having previously has a forester). Only down side is the depreciation, but as it’s such a good car why would you want to sell it?

Generally, Forester owners don’t sell too quickly. I kept mine for 10 and 7 years. I only sold as I needed an auto ‘cos of a foot operation. Bought a Leggy as replacement. I think I’ll be keeping it a while…

but as it’s such a good car why would you want to sell it?

Ask my old man, first and last new car he ever bought; wasn’t worth a **** and ran like a bag of shit from cold. Took a massive hit when he swapped it for a same age Mondeo. Shame really, it was otherwise a great car in terms of room and comfort.

I know not EVERY Forester turned out that way but there are issues just like every other make (definitely don’t buy a diesel if you don’t like bills running into the hundreds when an injector or big end needs replacing).

K20’s on the other hand are common as dog shit and just as difficult to eliminate. Plus a hell of a lot easier to work on than a Boxer lump. They all have their faults but on balance I’d probably go for the Honda.

Subaru ancillaries use bought in components. The window/mirror controls are stamped Toyota underneath. The heated seats modules Nissan. ^ Honda’s diesel also had issues with cam chains (everyone’s the same I guess when it comes to engine issues).

Njee20 shut up.

njee20
It’s amazing what you can learn about people by reading what they write.

Stalker alert….

Also it’s possible to have experience of many places.

No offense but Subaru’s aren’t 4×4’s like landies. They are marketed as ALLwheeldrive. Not two spinning whilst waiting for the two rears.

I’m a fan of Subarus myself, but yes they are. The recent ones (i.e new shape Foresters) may be different and have electronic aids to brake a spinning wheel but the old shape ones would have got stuck in this exact way due to a non locking centre diff, in fact even one wheel off the ground or with zero traction would stop them on any sort of slope. In some ways the performance Subarus do better as they at least have limited slip centre and rear diffs so they do transfer at least some torque in this situation.
They do have the advantage that they don’t require the fronts to slip before the rears receive torque though so they are better than most in snow as they aren’t constantly slipping the fronts a little bit.

Is this going to go like the Lance Armstrong threads ?

I can vouch that the back wheels have no drive

Got my car stuck in a field over the Xmas break – no bother I thought, i’ll just use my Dad’s CRV to pull it out

I quickly got my father’s CRV stuck in the field as it was clearly not 4×4 – the front wheels were spinning but nothing was happening with the backs

Went back to basics and jacked both motors up and chocked the wheels and got everything out

The next day I even got underneath the Honda to check if it had a propshaft and read axle – and to my surprise it did!

God knows the cost of the fuel associated with dragging all that extra metal around….

I quickly got my father’s CRV stuck in the field as it was clearly not 4×4 – the front wheels were spinning but nothing was happening with the backs

Went back to basics and jacked both motors up and chocked the wheels and got everything out

The next day I even got underneath the Honda to check if it had a propshaft and read axle – and to my surprise it did!

I don’t think we can blame Honda for you buying a 2 wd drive version

Subaru won best in class in 2014 by 4×4 may and is 2nd this year. The hardcore class was won by… The Wrangler Jeep.

Well that must mean it’s awesome then Hora, I thought this was a post about Honda’s or is it a Subaru love in now?

But does the aygo not beat it …..

Bit like specialised winning the what mtb tests when ever theres a full page spread near by 😉

Well that must mean it’s awesome then Hora, I thought this was a post about Honda’s or is it a Subaru love in now?

Subarus are clearly much more interesting to talk about 😀

Amphil

My father didn’t buy a 2WD vehicle – he bought a shite 4WD vehicle – which the link on the first page clearly demosntrated

Well that must mean it’s awesome then Hora, I thought this was a post about Honda’s or is it a Subaru love in now?

I’d happily talk about the Honda Jazz (any engine, both marks) all day long. Its ace even if the steering is a bit light.

Subarus are clearly much more interesting to talk about

+1

Hora do you know you sound like a 15 year old boy?

Hora do you know you sound like a 15 year old boy?

No but should I sound like a 50yr old male singing the virtues of a CRV?