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  • HDMI and Internet over Cat5e cable?
  • bluearsedfly
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    I’ve fried my tiny little brain trying to get my head around this so need help.

    I have two rooms side by side, I’d like to feed the picture from my Xbox One in the living room to the tv in the other room meaning I can move from one room to the other when swmbo takes control.

    I already have a Cat5e cable running from my main Sky Q box in the living to a Sky Q mini box in the other room.

    Is there anyway I can hijack this cable to carry both the picture from my Xbox and still use it to feed the Sky mini box?

    I’ve seen the hdmi over Cat5 etc converters but they don’t seem to allow you to use the cable for data at the same time.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    I doubt it.

    If nothing else, HDMI bandwidth is in excess of 10Gbps, CAT5e is going to be struggling at that speed to start with. That’s before you start to consider things like the secure handshakes HDMI uses.

    kelron
    Free Member

    I don’t think there’s any simple way to do that. You could run a hdmi cable through but you’d have problems with controller connection.

    Do you have a laptop that can run Windows 10? It should allow you to stream games from the Xbox and wouldn’t have to be particularly high spec. You could then connect up the TV as a display for the laptop.

    brassneck
    Full Member

    You could try a switch at both ends, and use an HDMI over IP box.
    vLAN separation if you want to be clever but likely not necessary.

    HDMI to IP convertors work OK though I’ve not tried them for 4K high movement feeds – might be a question of how much you are prepared to put up with. I think to ge 4K you are looking at pro AV kit, HD you can source on Amazon / EBay – but it has to be over IP, not just a line extender / using the CAT cabling standard (they often call that Ethernet which isn’t strictly true but I’m sure you get the idea).

    If you could re run a 6A cable you could get 10Gbps to link, more than enough, but the costs go up. I don’t think you need to match HDMI full bandwidth as the convertors reduce that for you, but I would expect a quality loss as there usually is – YMMV. 5e is good for 1Gbps anyway.

    You ought to check your XBox controller works through the wall too 😀

    gerti
    Free Member

    An HDBaseT Tx/Rx pair might be your answer. Aten do good reliable stuff. Depending on model, HDMI @ 4k and an ethernet pass through port for internet connectivity.

    http://www.aten.com/global/en/products/professional-audiovideo/video-extenders/ve814/#.WgM4i2i0PIU

    You’ll start to notice HDBaseT sockets on TV’s soon.

    rossburton
    Free Member

    HDBaseT looked awesome but no ARC, no full 4K HDMI, and only 100mbit ethernet. Whilst I admire what they’ve done with a lowly piece of cat5e, I hope they’re working on a next generation!

    bluearsedfly
    Free Member

    Thanks everyone. Looks like it’s more hassle than it’s worth.

    I did struggle with controller connection but bought one of the newer controllers and it seemed fine initially, but tonight it’s struggling.

    I’ve tried streaming via the laptop and out of the laptop to the tv via hdmi but it just seems a bit laggy/stuttery. Probably due to my laptop.

    Looks like the easiest option is to buy another 2nd hand Xbox for the other room, I couldn’t really justify a new one as it’ll probably get used once in a blue moon.

    BigEaredBiker
    Free Member

    Use the Ethernet cable to network the laptop to the xbone. Streaming via WiFi is rarely a great experience.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    TBH, it’s probably struggling more to drive the TV display. How’s it fare just on the laptop?

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    Ooo, was just looking for an video extender. Those aten things look like they might be a sensible price

    bluearsedfly
    Free Member

    I didn’t try it in just the laptop tbh.

    There would have been a delay as the controller was still connected directly to the Xbox and not the laptop. I imagine with the Xbox/windows dongle in the laptop it would have been better?

    The laptop route is a bit off a faff, I’d prefer something I can just walk in and turn on instead of hunting through the kids bedrooms looking for a flat laptop and then load the app/connect controller etc.

    kelron
    Free Member

    You can connect the controller with a usb cable. I suppose you could look at building a dedicated streaming PC but given the price of a used Xbox it doesn’t seem worth the effort.

    jwt
    Free Member

    THESE[/url] guys may have a solution but it may be expensive or require an additional CAT5?

    bluearsedfly
    Free Member

    Could I run a hdmi cable and a USB lead from the back of the Xbox to the next room and plug the controller in the USB extension lead via an Xbox Play and Charge kit?

    Would the Play and Charge kit send the controller signal down the cable instead of wirelessly?

    I wanted to avoid cables, but doing it this way would save swapping games between consoles and buying another console.

    kelron
    Free Member

    I thought you could plug the controller into the USB on the side of the console without using the charge kit, give it a try.

    bluearsedfly
    Free Member

    Thanks. I’ve ordered all the ‘bits’ now so will report back.

    Just hoping the controller signal goes via the cable once plugged in via USB.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Pretty sure the USB socket on the controller is power only. Otherwise you’d be able to plug them into a PC without needing a wireless adapter, which you can’t.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Pretty sure the USB socket on the controller is power only. Otherwise you’d be able to plug them into a PC without needing a wireless adapter, which you can’t.

    georgecats_0
    Free Member

    I bought something from eBay tha5 converts two cat 5 cables to hdmi, you just put an adaptor each end, from memory it wasn’t much, maybe £15, it’s only for a projector feed tho

    bluearsedfly
    Free Member

    Bollocks @ Cougar.

    Unless the dongle for the PC acts as a ‘converter’ too?

    There must be something out there that can let me use the controller in another room?

    I’ve ditched the cat5 idea thanks georgecats, I’m just going to drill another hole between the rooms and pass the cables through via brush plates.

    bluearsedfly
    Free Member

    This suggests the USB solves the controller issue? https://youtu.be/RjoNx4zuPD0

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Pass. I wasn’t sure, just my understanding. I’ve half a memory that the P&C kits on the 360 were just power too, I’ve never tried on the One (because I came to the conclusion that they were hateful things and AA Eneloops were far better).

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