I’ve still got my old gloves & apron which have never seen light of day for 15 years…
Listen, do you want to know a secret, do you promise not to tell, whoa oh closer, let me whisper in your ear, say the words you long to hear….

HAHAHAHA.
So many ’empty vessels’ voicing their opinion/lack of knowledge on here!

You’re a wizard now Harry

“Empty vessel”?? Is that like an atheist is to a Christian then? WTF did they fill you up with, essel?

of course we have no knowledge you are secretive
Can i join?
Where is the membership application?

He’s definitely full of something.

“Empty vessel”??
The ‘vessel’ being the head part. 🙄

See. You cannot be both a member of a secret society where iniates learn secrets… and then complain you are misunderstood…

Sad and inadequate and sexist.

Where is the membership application?

a) you have to be a little needy
b) you have to have an unsatisfactory sex life
c) you need to enjoy the company of other men, and like the odd ritual.

I have been asked in the past. I would rather nail my bollocks to a fence.

The ‘vessel’ being the head part

…so what do they fill the head part with? Enlightenment like a buddhist? Or knowledge like errr, a cabbie?

I would rather nail my bollocks to a fence

Now that would be funny. Not part of the initiation ceremony, but funny.

You cannot be both a member of a secret society where iniates learn secrets… and then complain you are misunderstood..

Oh that is so perfect – well done Stoatsbrother 8)

Why all this toss about ‘”Empty vessel” it seems like some in-joke for the masons. But i guess these little secrets are what its all about

…so what do they fill the head part with? Enlightenment like a buddhist? Or knowledge like errr, a cabbie?

Naa, It’s more of ‘an enlightenment’, you know, demonstrating the morals of life & stuff.
Actually now you mention it, one of the members was a cabbie. (well he owned 2 taxis if thats the same thing.

I’ve never actually heard ’empty vessels’ mentioned before, dunno what it relates to.

I’ve never actually heard ’empty vessels’ mentioned before, dunno what it relates to.

Yeah, sure.

first rule of of fight club 🙄

Naa, It’s more of ‘an enlightenment’, you know, demonstrating the morals of life & stuff.

but earlier in the thread:

well, I was invited early this year, only went once! I found the racist, sexist, and other unpleasant forms of humur a bit much – but that’s just me.

All lodges not created equal 😕

So anyway, sounds a bit like church but with no birds, no hymns, a bar and fewer needy/crazy hangers-on. Where can I sign up? 😀

Well it is a church

from here

http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/artoct02/letter.htm

One can no more keep secret the idea that God is the very warp and woof of Freemasonry than that he is the essence of all life. Take God out of Freemasonry, and there is, literally, nothing left; it is a pricked balloon, an empty vessel, a bubble which has burst.”

All lodges not created equal

Probably correct IMO

So anyway, sounds a bit like church

Definately not.

CharlieMungus, defo don’t recall the mention of ’empty vessels’
but I might have been asleep.. 😳

Oooh, the Mason got the wunundred…

…hmmmm

CharlieMungus, defo don’t recall the mention of ’empty vessels’
but I might have been asleep..

It’s from the Introduction to Freemasonry

It’s from the Introduction to Freemasonry
Well you know more than me then. How come you’ve taken such an interest?

Well you know more than me then.

I really doubt it, but good misdirection

How come you’ve taken such an interest?

Just the usual not putting up with BS

i found a copy of the wee book that they must get in the attick of a house i bought.

is that how you spell attick?

I think it varies from place to place, I know members who’ve moved about and disliked/preferred new branches etc. From what I gather it’s a bit of a social group with people who help each other out in various ways, however nothing as sinister as is made out by those who like to exaggerate and scorn. All of the members I know well enough to comment on are not racist, sexist and are quite nice folk with no real connections worth talking about.

you are in the masons coffeking i oddly have thought this before now.

you are in the masons coffeking i oddly have thought this before now.

Am I? Christ, I joined without knowing! 🙂

whatever though..
yeah your name was in this wee book anyways. 😀

Christ, I joined without knowing!

That’s how secret it is …… you are not even allowed to know.

Not sexist yet excluding women?

whatever though..yeah your name was in this wee book anyways.

I’ve absolutely no idea how to answer that. I’ll stick with bemused 😯 😀

Not sexist yet excluding women?

The people themselves are not sexist, no, most of them have been in positions of authority in businesses etc and have never been known to unfairly discriminate against females rising the ladder etc. FWIW they do have many wives events and social events including partners, but that’s as much as I know – no point me discussing it further as know no more.

As, I suppose, with scouts – for a long time it was boys only, not through any inherent sexism of any of the scouts themselves.

Not sexist yet excluding women?

Well, yeah women obviously! 🙄
But not sexist against anyone else

my mrs used to be a member of a golf club that had a men only bar, i mean why else does one go to the bar?
i just dont get it.

As, I suppose, with scouts – for a long time it was boys only, not through any inherent sexism of any of the scouts themselves.

Do they play British Bulldog, like what we did when I was in the scouts ?

Do they play British Bulldog, like what we did when I was in the scouts ?

Dunno! We played that too. As we got older it progressed to who could withstand having a chair thrown at you and who could climb up onto the 4th storey roof fastest. Best game was building a mountain of tables and chairs to reach the ceiling of the 4 storey hall and stand on top.

Health and safety? no chance.

julianwilson – Member

“Empty vessel”?? Is that like an atheist is to a Christian then? WTF did they fill you up with, essel?

vinegar.

Freemasons like members of any other club, society or association are subject to every Law of the Realm.

That’s fine. but I don’t know what it means. I’m in a club I’ve created and I’ve no idea what

every Law of the Realm

is. does that mean that Ive got some mates that get together that could be going against the law of the realm?? The law of The Realm! I can handle that!

who says these things! the law of the realm!!

I wish masons really were lizards. All the ones I’ve had the pleasure of meeting are snakes. Oh, and complete bell ends.

I wish masons really were lizards. All the ones I’ve had the pleasure of meeting are snakes. Oh, and complete bell ends.

Um, got up on the wrong side of bed GlitterGary or have you had an unfortunate experience with one of them there masonites? 😀