[Closed] Forget BMW/Audi drivers.....The car that attracts the worst drivers is..........

*ahem*

I've been driving my Grand Scenic for 6 years and haven't had an accident.

Seen hundreds, mind 😉

Never noticed Scenic drivers - I know it's a cliche, but BMW, Audi and Merc drivers really are the worst on the roads. Audi in particular are awful.

Mini drivers are fairly bad too - especially the younger drivers who seem to be permanently attached to their mobile phones while driving.

The car that attracts the worst drivers is..........

Any of those ones with more than 3 wheels isn't it?

Agree entirely, especially after one reversed into my car a few weeks back and then told me Id parked it inconsideratly. On my driveway.

I've been driving my Grand Scenic for 6 years and haven't had an accident.

Seen hundreds, mind

the hundreds of accidents you see in your rear view mirror that yo caused.. 😀

Any of those ones with more than 3 wheels isn't it?

Good drivers only in these;
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For every one dim Scenic I see/know twenty merc/bimmer/vorsprung idiots.

Anyway indicators? nah. its best to keep people guessing. Everytime I do it properly and indicate in advance to come out into the outside lane where there is a gap in the traffic, some tit bimmer or audi driver accelerates hard to make up the gap and stop anyone coming out in front of him.

For the record, I have a Fiesta and drive like a ****.

Seen hundreds, mind

wwaswas earlier:

For the record, I have a Fiesta and drive like a ****.

Ah, an aspirational Audi driver. Good for you 😛

The only point of posting on this thread is to call "utter bollocks" on the OP.

treaclesponge - Member

Agree entirely, especially after one reversed into my car a few weeks back and then told me Id parked it inconsideratly. On my driveway.

You're all wrong! Nissan Micra's are the worst driven cars on the road! By a country mile! They seem incapable of traveling at more than 30mph. They vear erratically from lane to lane, as if the driver is having a stroke. Indicators? What are they?

It may be specific to certain areas, depending on ethnic make up, but seeing the combination of this

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behind the wheel of this

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really puts the fear of God (or Allah) in me. Time to get off your bike and hide behind a wall til the danger passes

I up you and claim Vauxhall Zafira.

The only point of posting on this thread is to call "utter bollocks" on the OP.

Very true. It's a known fact the make and the model of the car has no bearing on how the car is driven.

Having heated wing mirrors on the other hand.....

I agree binners - Ninja in a Micra = throwing star nightmare.

Damn you, Jamie!

He he I drive a Micra (look, it was free and I'm happy with the size of my penis) and many other road users get a surprise when they realise it's not and old dodger driving it (usually after they have just pulled out in front of me 😡 )

Bikebouy you have a very valid point!

[b]ADH's guide to City driving[/b]

1. Don't use you indicators. You're local, you know where you're going. If someone is using indicators, they not local and likely to veer wildly from lane to lane.

2. Wing/door mirrors. Push them in when parked, then leave them pushed in while driving - you don't need to see behind you. If a helpful cyclist pulls them out for you while you're stuck in traffic, push them in again and give him some verbal.

3. Lights. Ensure at least one headlight and one brake light is broken. If the functional headlamp can be an uprated lamp unit from a lighthouse and angled towards the heavens, so much the better. Remember, if the streetlights are on, leave your lights off, saves wear on the alternator.

4. Windows. Ensure these are misted up, or covered in peeling security film, stickers, badly placed sun screens etc. Be inventive.

5. Tyres. Bald, or near balding. Full marks if the sidewalls have been thoroughly kerbed.

6. Brakes. If the car dosn't veer wildly to one side when you brake, your vehicle isn't road worthy. Full marks are awarded to drivers who leave the handbrake on while driving, the pleasant scent of overheating brake pads will add to the driving experiance.

7. Sat nav placement. Leave on the windscreen, even if you know where you're going, make sure it takes up as much of your view as possible, without it actually being placed slap bang in front of you. It should only ever be placed in the glove box when parked, to prevent it being stolen.

8. Oil/Water/Washer fluid. These should ONLY ever be checked by [u]qualified personelle[/u]. Lifting the bonnet will invalidate the warrenty. You should only ever take your car to the garage if it is broken. Most modern cars need to be serviced once a millenium.

9. Road space. Congestion makes city driving a nightmare for everyone. Be considerate and keep as close as physically possible to the car in front.

10. Use of time. City driving average speeds are low. If you get bored, use your time effectively in these safe low speeds - why not eat a KFC bucket? Hold a telephone conference on your mobile, or shave for the office? Ipads perched on your lap make an ideal time to catch up on [i]Sex in the City[/i].

Points for how many of these I've seen.

Double points for correctly identifying those I see [u]every[/u] day.

bigyinn - Seriously.

😐

It may be specific to certain areas, depending on ethnic make up, but seeing the combination of this

behind the wheel of this

really puts the fear of God (or Allah) in me. Time to get off your bike and hide behind a wall til the danger passes.

It's a very good point actually Binners; I see that a lot where I live. Women dressed like that have reduced peripheral vision, and simply can't see what's going on around them. I'm always wary of such drivers if I'm on my bike, cos I know they just can't see me, mirrors or not.

It's actually illegal too (to wear anything which restricts your vision, and this includes stupid dark sunglasses that make you look a right tit), but of course were the Babylonians to do owt about it, then we'd naturally have someone banging on about Racism and Human Rights etc etc and oh well you know the rest.

As for the bigoted and prejudiced generalisation by the OP, well, it's what we've come to expect from Little England really, sadly. 🙁

I drive a Mondeo and therefore Mondeo drivers are the worst in the known universe.
[u]FACT[/u]*

*STW knowz this.

treaclesponge - pics???

When I used to drive through Slough a lot, I never really had a problem from women in traditional garb. Mind you, I was driving a battered Fiat Panda and they were all in expensive Mercs, so when I came near them they tended to shear away quite quickly, probably to avoid catching rust or dents from my car. Either that, or desperate to avoid having an accident that would see them have to explain why they were driving their husband's car with no license or insurance.

The worst drivers are the ones in modified Novas/Astras/Fiesta/*generic small shitbox* that treat a 20mph road outside a school as part of a racetrack every day.

Also any driver that adds one of those stupid exhausts on to their tiny engined crapbox of a car to make an annoying racket, sole purpose to annoy everyone else who has to suffer the din. Thinking about it, they should be named Fred exhausts

What an arse

LOL...My misses comment after I sent her this thread
She's a new scenic owner 😀

Truth hurts her? 😀

He he

I agree with the OP. My lift share is a Renault Scenic driver and she is oblivious to anyone else on the road and has no lane discipline. MrPP stop reading here.
In the past 1.5 months she has hit the kerb twice (whilst going round a round about), driven off with the door open (twice, I hadn't even got both legs in the car. Yesterday she admitted she could not find her brake (as we practically TBoned an Audi). This morning I practically adopted the brace position as we roared up behind a braking car as she was looking at the traffic on the opposite side of the road wondering why they had stopped. I asked her this morning why her driving had got so bad in the last 1.5 months she said that Mark's (the other lift) breathing changes so she looks at him to see if he is asleep. She constantly drives with one wheel on the cats eyes at the side of the road (I have asked her not too as it jolts the side of the car that I sit on) her attitude to all of this si to laugh and blame the menopause.
Hurry up MrPP and mend the scooter....(please).

She's closer to the truth than the OP I reckon. 🙂

Eek!

Either that, or desperate to avoid having an accident that would see them have to explain why they were driving their husband's car with no license or insurance.

How do you even know this? Do you have psychic powers or sumfink?

Toyota Yaris FTW!

MrsPoddy, has he STILL not fixed that bloody Vespa??

He's bloody useless is that PeterPoddy. Too busy frightening dogs with his Decaying Orbit. 🙁

is it still the rear brake?

MrsPP I know how you feel.

In the big freeze last year I decided I was bette roff in a metal box than bouncing off them, so I got a lift in. As we tailgated a quarry wagon (6 feet, at most) and the driver wondered aloud the the steering kept going funny (in the freezing conditions), I elected to fit my spikes and ride to work off road. It might take 90 minutes and be serious hard work compared to the road route, but at least I'm alive.

her attitude to all of this si to laugh

although it makes me sound like some old duffer in tweed (i'm in my 20's) driving as a skill has been lost somewhere. motorcyclists still (i believe in the majority) view it like this.
unfortunately for car drivers it (imo) falls into two camps the majority have passed their test and now have the full ticket, that's it. the drivers who do treat it as a skill aim to drive like a racing driver.

the skill of roadcraft as a good 'road' driver is lost.

surely these attract the worst:

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Don't worry, the oil will run out soon.

OK, I just need to get Bimmer to be complete. We already have Scenic and Audi in the family.... 😀

Wifes mate drives a Scenic. Large dent in the boot was where a skip reversed into it. She doesnt fit your stereotype though.

On a similar note...to the bright yellow MG ZR driver, who double parks right outside the primary school gate every day & who threw four letter abuse at the children & teachers who dared to approach to try & point out the danger of this action...

...I did chuckle as they hauled your presumably uninsured POS onto that low loader the other day on the main road. Made my day, really did. Hopefully you wont be getting it back. Many thanks & do have a crap new year.

Also any driver that adds one of those stupid exhausts on to their tiny engined crapbox of a car to make an annoying racket, sole purpose to annoy everyone else who has to suffer the din. Thinking about it, they should be named Fred exhausts

Years ago on a Japan island, walked through a tunnel and then heard this very very loud exhaust noise like a straight through exhaust on a classic racing car. Turned round and it was an 800cc Bedford Rascal flatbed with a massive exhaust doing about 40mph!

bikebouy - Member
I up you and claim Vauxhall Zafira.

YOU! Outside, now!

oldgrump08 - damage wasnt all that bad but it was more the principle!

7. Sat nav placement. Leave on the windscreen, even if you know where you're going, make sure it takes up as much of your view as possible, without it actually being placed slap bang in front of you. It should only ever be placed in the glove box when parked, to prevent it being stolen.

people in y reg astras off council estates seem to have a chip on their shoulders, they can usually be seen in the outside lane on the motorway driven by thin blokes in caps. saab drivers also seem to have issues.

Good point Rich_s, I neglected to mention driving along with the interior lights on full blast too.

Plus, extra points for the number of unsecured items rolling around in footwells.

[i]Too busy frightening dogs with his Decaying Orbit[/i]

Wondering if PP knows you refer to his arse in such a way...

I wazunt Dez, honets. 😳

It was Andy what made me do it.

...I did chuckle as they hauled your presumably uninsured POS onto that low loader the other day on the main road. Made my day, really did. Hopefully you wont be getting it back. Many thanks & do have a crap new year.

Heh! Gotta love a bit of shadenfreude. I sit here cackling sometimes as people's cars are lifted onto trucks and taken away for being parked illegally. I have no sympathy; there are several signs up.

Tooundredandfifty quid to have it released! Sumat like thirty quid a day storage!!! 😮

I'm with Binners on this one - Micra by a country mile.

Not usually driven quickly but oblivious to any other road users and a nightmare to follow.

BUT, in my opinion the biggest giveaway for a poorly driven car is nothing to do with the model and make, it's if the driver has anything hanging off the rear view mirror. The more dangly objects (or collection of fluffy toys) a car has, the worse it is generally driven.

If you are the owner of a dangly car adornment, i'm afraid, like it or not, you're a terrible driver.

Next time somebody cuts you up etc, see if you can spot one, you'll be amazed at how accurate this assessment is.... 🙂

On my local death road, the A65, the main culprit is the Micra with hat on back shelf being driven at 30mph, causing the massive queue, leading to the other culprit, gang of middle-aged fat blokes on very powerful Kawasakis, going for massive overtaking moves on blind corners.

The number of decaying bouquets tucked into the dry stone walls around here suggest that the latter aren't faring too well at it.

+1 Addison Lee MPV's, especially from Heathrow into town.

And older Asian women in big new(ish) cars/SUV's.

Re the Vespa MrPP has finally gone back to his original idea and we are getting a new braided hose. He did say he was going to get it done by the 1st March as that was when the MOT was due. As to the reference to the decaying orbit I think that is quite apt!
Seriously I think that there are bad and good drivers everywhere. We can always learn something new and I think that if we had a basic re-test ie new signs, road speeds, driving in straight line, lane discipline, the actual meaning of the overtaking lane rather than just calling it a fast lane, roundabout priories say every 10-15 years the roads would be a safer place. But this won't happen as the government would lose votes and money generated.

And older Asian women in big new(ish) cars/SUV's.

Why's their ethnicity important?

Or their age or even sex, for that matter?

binners Member

You're all wrong! Nissan Micra's are the worst driven cars on the road! By a country mile! They seem incapable of traveling at more than 30mph

I had a 1 litre Micra Vibe when I was 17, it was like a mini Subaru Imprezza in my eyes.

It was like this, but red

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[i]Why's their ethnicity important?

Or their age or even sex, for that matter? [/i]

Because as a rule, they drive like 5h1t.

Easily the Ford Focus.

Why's their ethnicity important?

Or their age or even sex, for that matter?

Because without it we almost have a car with nobody in it.

find Nissa Almera drivers to be pretty awful myself.

Met a ninja like the one in Binners pic when I was out on the hills yesterday riding a quad with a big black gun attached to the front of it!!!!

Where do you live Trekster? I'm guessing Kabul? Or Whalley Range? 😉

I know it's a cliche, but BMW, Audi and Merc drivers really are the worst on the roads. Audi in particular are awful.

A view that definitely has it's merits (and this from a Mercedes owner), as does the Micra option. In my opinion though the worst driven car on the roads is the Austin/Rover Metro. The fact it's still able to be driven means that it's probably owned by some old codger that only does a few hundred miles a year due to his cataracts, the fact he's too infirm to turn his head to look into his mirrors or out the side windows and so senile he's forgotten what all the contols are for.

I did once get have an old codger pull out right in front of me (close enough that only ABS saved an accident) although not driving a Metro (it was an old Nissan Bluebird I think). When I stopped him to ask WTF he thought he was doing he explained that the reason he didn't see me was because of his cataracts! He didn't think not being able to see was enough of an excuse for stopping driving (to the pub as well!) though. I reported it to the police who said they couldn't do much as his doctor felt sorry for the old chap and didn't want to sign him off as unfit to drive...

And still no mention of the dreaded Honda jazz.

I think the time of day and what day of the week are more relevant to bad driving than car make.
Sunday afternoons come to mind.

I have a certain about of sympathy with old people still driving - in most cases it is the only way they can retain any independance. Clearly that guy was unsafe epicsteve, but public transport is so useless, and expectations so ingrained, it must be hard.

Not looking forward to the day that I'm going to have to stop my Dad from driving - in all likelyhood I'll only prise the keys from his cold dead hands.

Because as a rule, they drive like 5h1t.

Oh, so older Asian women drive poorly? Like, all of them?

Interested to know how you've reached such an obviously scientifically worked out conclusion...

[u]qualified personelle[/u]

I live in Bristol. The worst cars are all of them - when driven by taxi drivers.

Thinking about this, my misses buying a scenic is a good match
The last time she borrowed my Saab was too reverse it into a wall

Elfin goes to work

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wallop - Member
I live in Bristol. The worst cars are all of them - when driven by taxi drivers.

Elfin goes to work

😆

I'm saddened that no explanation has bin offered though. I was expecting figures, charts, graphs the lot. 🙁

I'll just have to assume it's a load of narrow-minded cobblers then. Which is what I expected anyway tbh. Oh whell.

My wife drives a Scenic (4 yrs now), no accidents,not a chav and also doesn't meet your stereo type neither do 2 others i know........your post is Guff!!!

Now Honda Jazz grrrrrrrrrrrr i can almost stake my life that whenever i come across slow moving line of traffic on the 60mph route to work the leader of the pack will be a bloody Honda Jazz, now i've never driven one but they must have a dodgy speedo as they seem to drive at 20mph below the speed limit across the range, damn them all to hell!!!

Ah-hem!

Do I really deserve the kicking I've been getting on this thread? I think not.

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For the RECORD, the Vespa will be back together this weekend, as it would have been over Christmas if Mrs PP hadn't dragged me off to Spain!

They are typically fat brain dead chav families.
They need a larger car to fit their guts in, football shirts, white trainers and 3/4 shorts are de rigueur

Poor, fat people who like football. They're the problem with this world.

Not the hateful, small-minded arseholes that despise everything and anyone that doesn't match their social class.

It's ok; he's from Little England, not Great Britain. They can't help thinking like that, as anything beyond that level is too painful.

Elfinsafety - Member

And older Asian women in big new(ish) cars/SUV's.

Why's their ethnicity important?

Or their age or even sex, for that matter?

Yes

Same as its important to mention white young men in baseball caps as a other category to avoid. 🙂

When looking for hazards every bit of info is worth having and there clearly are a number of stereotypes of driver best avoided. Spotting the type of driver helps you predict their next bit of idiocy. Will they see you? Will they accelerate to fast? Will they break the speed limit? Will thy be aggressive?

The older Asian woman is not likely to be aggressive but is likely to be less observant than some. The young white lad in a baseball cap is likely to see you and not give a shit and to be aggressive and reckless. different avoidance tactic needed

Every bit of info helps. Treat all drivers as idiots yes but different types tend to do different idiocies