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  • Decking…
  • MartynS
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    just bought a house with a very large decked area out back. Its been painted by the previous owners,, but its going to need doing again soon.
    We’d like to get the paint off and get some decking stain/preserver on it. It is quite a dark brown at the moment.
    I was going to jetwash it off in the first instance to see what happened but I guess that wont lift the paint. So any ideas on how to strip it back? oh.. its that groved surface you get which i suspect will make things harder.
    I dont want to use paint stripper (did I mention its very large..)
    So STW handymen, over to you!

    cloudnine
    Free Member

    Is it grooved both sides??

    Unscrew the planks and flip them??

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    Painted, eh?

    Either flip over (if underside ok) or tbh, it might be less hassle to buy new decking and fit that.

    andyl
    Free Member

    water jetting will take the paint off but will probably also make it quite fuzzy as you will be doing intensive jetting.

    Worth a try though or you could try some eco friendly paint stripper and a stiff brush if you can’t flip it: http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Painting+%26+Decorating/d150/Paint+%26+Varnish+Removers/sd2889/Home+Strip+Paint+%26+Varnish+Remover/p39051

    IHN
    Full Member

    tyrionl1
    Free Member

    Some deck planking is ‘sided’ different tread pattern on the other side, so flipping might not be the answer and in any case that eco stripper sounds favourite .

    binners
    Full Member

    just5minutes
    Free Member

    you want some of this stuff – works really well

    Net-Trol

    nemesis
    Free Member

    I had almost identical situation in my old house. I just washed it which took ages and left it in a bit of a mess because some of the stain came off much better than other bits so it was different colours. Not sure on a better answer I’m afraid. I’d always try to use clear deck protector now.

    wittonweavers
    Free Member

    AND

    Flippancy aside, I know you say its a big area but this is one of those jobs where its all in the preparation. You really need to invest the time now as if you dont then the restained deck will look terrible and will need doing again in next to no time.

    A large area will also cost a fair bit to stain so you will be wasting money. Its a ball ache but worth doing.

    All this from bitter experience! 😀

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    Paint it a colour you like, and save yourself a world of mind numbing misery.

    thecaptain
    Free Member

    Take it down and save yourself years of trying to maintain a slippery rotten dangerous pointless waste of space. Wood decking in the UK is such a ridiculous idea.

    andyl
    Free Member

    Plastic decking – a lot more expensive but easy to look after and from my experience not slippy. Make sure you get the recycled stuff though.

    allthepies
    Free Member

    Decking: Worst idea evva.

    nemesis
    Free Member

    I’m really struggling to understand the decking hate. I’ve had it in two houses and it’s been spot on

    stumpyjon
    Full Member

    I re did mine two years ago with industrial stripper and several wire brushes. Was a big job but worth it. There isn’t much alternative if you want remove all the old stain. If you do clean use oil not stain to recolour it. The stains are not fit for purpose.

    stumpyjon
    Full Member

    Nemisis +1, in the right place done well decking is great. I think it’s fashionable to dislike decking at the moment.

    allthepies
    Free Member

    How do you guys stop it becoming a slip-hazard whenever it gets wet ?

    project
    Free Member

    get some imitation grass and cover the thing with that, looks good and you just vacumn it every couple of weeks witha wet and dry Vacumn

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    I’m really struggling to understand the decking hate. I’ve had it in two houses and it’s been spot on

    Agreed. Decking that goes slippy is a sign of owner laziness, not decking fail.

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    Liberon decking oil, applied twice annually (it takes about an hour with a big roller) stops mine being slippy, and keeps it looking good. You see lots of folk posting about not treating the deck and letting it ‘weather’. IMO when it goes grey it looks shite and that’s also when it’s slippy.

    5thElefant
    Free Member

    Flipping the boards sounds the easiest. New boards a close second.

    How do you guys stop it becoming a slip-hazard whenever it gets wet ?

    Jet wash every 3-4 years.

    nemesis
    Free Member

    Exactly. It’s nothing complex and ime no different to paved areas which also get slippy if left alone

    jb72
    Free Member

    Jetwash would be a good start – very likely you’ll lift the paint with that. Failing that use the wire brush.

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    Intensive pressure washing can damage it quite easy as I found out at previous house, splinters the wood, cracks and splits it. Allowing easier water ingress and rot in the future

    You can hire a huge upright sander for the day, but the nature of decking boards and the way they naturally warp over time means these just don’t do a good job and get all the old paint off and miss some boards entirely.

    Best tool for the job is a Random Orbital Sander, it takes about 2 hours to do a medium sized deck, they’re a perfect width for a decking board, and they come in handy for all sorts of other jobs with the even way they sand…

    http://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/random-orbit-sanders/cat830928

    I started off with a brown painted deck, flaking, looked in need of ripping out…

    ROS it down, the grooves inbetween on each board arn’t as important as you’d imagine, just top sand each board back to wood which is a quick process

    Then washed it down with this, brushed off and hosed down…

    http://www.ronseal.co.uk/garden/cleaners-and-prep/decking-cleaner-and-reviver/

    Tend to use the Ronseal perfect finish decking stain with foam pad where you just brush it on, (or Cuprinol Ultimate, both these products not slippy when wet) takes 20-30 mins for full deck, simply restain every 1-2 years… getting the initial paint off is the worst part.

    Finished

    MartynS
    Full Member

    Cruzcampo.
    That’s fantastic advice, Thank you!
    Mine looks like yours in the first picture. Guess I’ve some work ahead. At least I get to buy a new tool!
    I presume you used quite a rough paper on it

    T1000
    Free Member

    Hire/ buy a belt sander

    Dust mask as well !!

    cruzcampo
    Free Member

    Martyn this is similar to the ROS I bought,

    http://www.diy.com/departments/bosch-corded-220w-random-orbit-sander-pex-220-a/196773_BQ.prd

    Papers are cheap so I just got a selection and started rough, working to fine to finish over, try the roughest first and see how the paint comes off.

    http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/d80/Power+Sanding/sd1790/Sanding+Disc/p21822

    Agree on the dust mask, and also goggle (i just wore my clear biking glasses).

    Majority of the ROS come with a dust collection attachment too which really keeps it down.

    I did borrow a belt sander first but it wasn’t gentle enough.

    Good read here on belt vs orbital vs random orbital

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/tools/reviews/a3118/know-your-power-sanders-and-how-to-use-them-13314160/

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