Danny Hart ..where next

oooh – we need more of these stories. I’ve got some extra-nice biscuits in that have been waiting for an occasion!

This is ace. Sort of similar for me, I was marshalling and he wouldn’t get behind the tape, stage was live. “Do you know who I am” “Yes, you’re Danny’s dad and you should bloody know better”.

Clearly the man has form, he did the same to a female marshal at a BDS & threatened her as well. He’s all class.

Well, a few years ago when the BDS was a big deal and Danny hadn’t yet blown up on the WC, every time there was a race Danny would be at the venue the week before on the uplifts. Fair enough, he’s just getting as much track time as possible.

Uplift days can get pretty busy and you might find yourself standing in line or missing the occasional lift and completing less runs than normal. Unless you’ve got a visibly frustrated Paul Hart counting your runs. He marched over to a full uplift trailer and started removing the bikes of paying punters and trying to replace them with Danny’s. Cue lots of angry shouting, threats of violence and the immortal sentence “Do you know who my son is?” screamed at full volume.

I don’t like sharing dirty laundry but this was witnessed by dozens of people so it’s fair game. I once saw the toys get thrown right out of the pram at Fatcats Motorparc but that was a more private display of impotent fury.

Add in the constant spectre of his dad creating embarrassment and I wonder if he’s as “valuable” as some might think. Essentially his only value is results, not charisma, media friendliness or other attributes, so as soon as results slow down, he’s less valuable as a commodity.

I’d not heard of Danny’s dad being a weapon till this thread, I guess to your average punter who watches the races and other coverage you dont hear these things.

Thought of better responses later obviously but that wasn’t too <span class=”skimlinks-unlinked”>bad.Well</span>, OK, mainly, I just wanted to say the same thing but end it “Now, **** off” like Brick Top.

Put your Dad on a lead, will ya?

I’d not heard of Danny’s dad being a weapon till this thread

I’d take it with a pinch of salt. Always seemed like a nice bloke to me.

Whereas is FB output paints a picture of an Angry man unused to not getting his own way, and prone to blaming others for his own misfortune.

Just had a look at his FB profile. He shared of Katie Hopkins, “telling how it is” need we say anymore? His FB profile matches what I have heard about him and what people on here are saying. I have no idea if Danny is also like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact Danny is a joy to watch on a bike.

Andyrm’s comment is spot on: In all seriousness, yes Danny is a great racer with the results to back it up. Is he the epitome of what a modern sponsored rider needs to be? I’m not quite sure. Add in the constant spectre of his dad creating embarrassment and I wonder if he’s as “valuable” as some might think. Essentially his only value is results, not charisma, media friendliness or other attributes, so as soon as results slow down, he’s less valuable as a commodity.

This is how a business sees its riders. Social media sells bikes probably more than race results. Anything that can negatively affect Socail media will be a massive turnoff.

Folk who say racism doesn’t exist in MTB would do well to look at his (Danny’s dad) FB page.

oooh – we need more of these stories. I’ve got some extra-nice biscuits in that have been waiting for an occasion!

He once tried to get my mate and I to fight him in a pub car park in Leogang because he didn’t like the way we moderated the Descent-World forum in the early 2000’s.

I don’t recall what witty retort my mate had for him though the whole argument ended with a hug so I perhaps shouldn’t be too unkind since technically we have agreed to let bygones be bygones.

Folk who say racism doesn’t exist in MTB would do well to look at his (Danny’s dad) FB page.

It’s spectacularly grim. I mean it’s exclusively a non stop diatribe of hate and anger.

There is a series, might have been on RedBull TV, where they spent time with different DH racers and their teams / support / family.

Danny was featured and he came across ok, it also had a fair bit of his dad who was saying stuff like (and I paraphrase from memory) Danny doesn’t have much else going for him other than DH; I told him you turn up to win or else what’s the point; and so on.

His dad had positioned himself as Dannys management, but rather than looking out for Danny he came across as controlling and living his own dreams by proxy. It stood out to me as I kept thinking wow that’s your son you are talking about! It didn’t seem healthy.

I don’t want to give this Gammon King any credit but arguably you need a pushy parent to get to the the top. In Danny’s case he’s been racing from a very young age and it might be the case that this gave him an edge. I don’t know. But a less hands on parent wouldn’t have been driving him to race venues all over the country.

But there’s plenty of proactive parents who aren’t complete arseholes I guess

The DH scene is so friendly and fraternal that anyone who’s a prick will immediately stand out

Anyway, I’m dying to see where he’s going. I hope we don’t have to wait until next year.

Maybe he’ll do an Atherton and be racing on ‘Paul Hart’ bikes next year? :)))))))

His dad had positioned himself as Dannys management, but rather than looking out for Danny he came across as controlling and living his own dreams by proxy.

It stood out as that when I saw Danny first turning up at DH races at 12 years old (iirc)

Doesn’t take away from the fact Danny is a joy to watch on a bike.

but sadly lacking when not on it from a sponsors PoV

Probably due to ….

(and I paraphrase from memory) Danny doesn’t have much else going for him other than DH; I told him you turn up to win or else what’s the point; and so on.

like what chance did he have?

arguably you need a pushy parent to get to the the top

There’s being pushy, then there’s just being a rude, thick arsehole

Maybe he’ll do an Atherton and be racing on ‘Paul Hart’ bikes next year?

PHART RACING ?

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Maybe he’ll do an Atherton and be racing on ‘Paul Hart’ bikes next year?

PHART RACING ?

#ridelikethewind

Hanny dart is Danny’s personal Facebook page, his missus Sophie is a bit more erm Covid conspiracyesque, seems perfectly nice when I met them @ a redbull event a few years ago.

Is the situation getting to him, he seemed a bit kerfuffled speaking to Jordi on dialled, I don’t think I’ve seen him on it before, its usually the syndicate boys being the biggest puzzlers.

If you want sponsorship money you need to pay a specialist to do your Social Media.

Warner just said he reckoned he was a going to a ‘square’ brand…

Where will his Dad go ?

From the Maribor thread, Warner flying around the rumour that Vergier going to Trek. I’ve not heard that before but very surprised (if true). Seems a done deal

Trek website says announcement in coming weeks. 3 elite riders and 1 junior.

Hope it’s not like their cringey tease vid last season

So Danny to Cube, Loris to Trek and Reece to… where? Straight swap with the Syndicate perhaps?

Whatever, I hope he hadn’t already signed a contract before winning the rainbow jersey.

I’m trying to remember but I can’t recall anyone leaving the Syndicate for another team.? Seems like a happy, relatively low stress team environment considering.  Riders seem to get plenty of time to figure out their stuff and be the best competitor they can be and don’t seem to be on a yearly cycle of ‘perform or you’re out’.

TL:DR Seems odd Loris is leaving Santa Cruz.  Think Reece would be a good fit there though.

Well, a few years ago when the BDS was a big deal and Danny hadn’t yet blown up on the WC, every time there was a race Danny would be at the venue the week before on the uplifts. Fair enough, he’s just getting as much track time as possible.

Uplift days can get pretty busy and you might find yourself standing in line or missing the occasional lift and completing less runs than normal. Unless you’ve got a visibly frustrated Paul Hart counting your runs. He marched over to a full uplift trailer and started removing the bikes of paying punters and trying to replace them with Danny’s. Cue lots of angry shouting, threats of violence and the immortal sentence “Do you know who my son is?” screamed at full volume.

Saw his dad do a similar thing at Cwmcarn back in 2018 a few days before the BDS round there. The whole car park knew about it when he tried to jump the queue and there was rumours from some of the riders that day on the uplift (I was on the regular trails) that he’d been stopping riders going down the track so that Danny could have a clear run at it. I thought it was just the normal false rumours that some bitter people make up for a laugh but after reading all the stories above and looking at a few other sites it seems to be normal! The best bit was watching Danny’s dad get a parking ticket for not paying and taking up 3 spaces as a makeshift pit area.

It’s true….nobody ever leaves the syndicate for another team: Rennie and Bryceland both had existential crises, Peaty? Still there

Is the rumour that its Reece who’s leaving Trek ? What about the other riders?

Cube is always an uninspiring move though, just cos it’s Cube

rumours from some of the riders that day on the uplift (I was on the regular trails) that he’d been stopping riders going down the track so that Danny could have a clear run at it.

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I’d not heard of Danny’s dad being a weapon till this thread, I guess to your average punter who watches the races and other coverage you dont hear these things.

Exactly this the cool kids that Danny Hart appeals to probably arent all sat around discussing what thet ate drank and listened to on a friday night.
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I suppose its conjecture, but you or I can only guess his value to his sponsors from our point of view, Is there an army of 12 year old kids with a danny hart poster on his/her wall who thinks hes awesome? ,They probably wont stalk his dad on facebook wether he’s a weapons grade dickhead or not? The yoof of today like a bit of Aggro, remember the guy from Sick bikes , proof being a dickhead can create a media following.

It’s true….nobody ever leaves the syndicate for another team: Rennie and Bryceland both had existential crises, Peaty? Still there

Nathan Rennie left to go to Morewood which didn’t work out. He really didn’t like it when “little Gregory” came on board with a much higher salary.

Unfortunately Morewood didn’t have any money at all. No one got paid and the team folded.

Loris looks like the best long-term bet on the Syndicate, so I’d doubt he was pushed.

Unless they wanted a higher-profile rider with more wins under his belt.

Could they have Amaury or Loic lined up for next season?

On a Commencal was what I heard at Hamsterley today 🤷🏻‍♂️

Seems like a happy, relatively low stress team environment considering

Hmmm, I seem to remember both Greg and Josh suggesting that Roskopp isn’t shy of letting the team know via text “shit-o-grams” if their results aren’t to his expectations.

Riding with Phil Atwill at Cube could make sense.

Atwill could definitely benefit from being on a sexier bike brand.

I don’t think it matters so much for Danny, as long as he’s got a competitive bike.

Cube must have (relatively) alot of money for pro riders, as do Santa Cruz and especially trek. With Reece and Loris being recent winners Warner’s words must have some credibility Shirley? I do hope Reece can stop his bell ringing enough to get his best time at Maribor 2.

I’ve been on a few uplifts and local races and never seen Danny’s dad but had heard he’s a dick, seems to be common knowledge. Danny was at Antur once, seemed sound.

Why would Santa cruz get rid of Loris, surely Luca’s their weakest rider.

With Reece and Loris being recent winners Warner’s words must have some credibility Shirley?

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Why would Santa cruz get rid of Loris, surely Luca’s their weakest rider.

They wouldn’t ,he’s been tempted away by treks deep pockets. But Shaw will come good and once he starts winning I think he ll be a regular winner. He’s been threatening to win for a few years now. I stupidly thought he’d done the winning run today until Minnaar came down

Having said that, once Pierron comes back I think the French will have a stranglehold on racing for a few seasons

Edit: that completely contradicts what I said about Luca Shaw but whatevs