B&W photography on film, who else enjoys it?
now that you can get a paper from permajet that looks exactly like oriental seagul fb pearl with a bit of selenium tone there is no point in using film. i thought it was a real fiber based print when shown a b&w inkjet printed on it. (permajet fibre base gloss 295gsm)Posted 7 years agoInnesMember
Even better than taking Black and White pictures is printing them.
I haven’t printed Black and White for years, but have been planning on looking out all my old gear some time and showing the kids.
I might look out my old camera and get some Black and white film. It would be a good thing to do with them. I might even process the films with them as well.
Good call.Posted 7 years ago
I enjoy taking a few pictures with the old trusty friend of OM2, no auto, no nothing but a simple meter and a lens. The problem I’m having is getting the films in the first place in Ireland, and having it developed properly in the second. I’m considering the DIY way TBH.Posted 7 years ago
This morning I collected some prints (the film was a C41 type), bought two rolls of grain and am going shooting tomorrow morning. A heavy lens or two, perhaps a tripod, definitely a thermal flask and sandwiches. Should be fun.
Is there anybody else here who doesn’t enjoy the digi snapping and prefers the real thing?
BTW Where can I get a few A4 prints from?marsdenmanMember
It is really cool seeing an image appear in the tray under the red safe light.
Looong time since i’ve done it but, agreed, never loses it’s magic 😀
It must be quite cheap to pick up second hand stuff now, as not many people will use it now.
yep, cheap as chips – mines all boxed and in the spare room – ‘one day’ i’ll hook it out and set it up again 🙄Posted 7 years agoKing-ocelotMember
I’ve always prefered mechanical things that go clunk and click over digital that go ‘beep’ even if results can be copied using new papers the process is lost. I’ve kept my Canon Eos 300v for when the mood takes me. Charity shops sometimes have a few nice film cameras going cheap, digital might clearly be the way forward but it’s not as cool.Posted 7 years agomidlifecrashesSubscriber
My film gear hasn’t moved out of the boxes since I bought my first digital camera years ago. There’s one of those enlargers that packs away into a briefcase under my desk too. I’d have to agree the magic is in the printing. I’ll probably do it one day for the kids as a demo now I have a nice cellar to play in, but it was always a faff setting up for an evening’s printing when I used to do it. If there is a local evening class at an art college with a darkroom that might be a good way to bypass the faffage and still have a go.Posted 7 years agoHadgeMember
If you enjoy B&W then do yourself a favour and try get some infra-red film and try that out – absolutely stunning. You’ll need a bag to load the film into the camera and you’ll need specialist developers and printers now but they will be so worth it. Even the simplest landscape becomes a thing of beauty especially if there’s lots of cloud detail to be had. I ran a camera club many years ago and we had a guy do a talk who took nothing but these and developed and printed his own stuff and his prints were incredible. Just an old guy, basic camera and lots of skill.Posted 7 years agobig_n_daftMember
I’ve taken it up from scratch a couple of years ago, it’s an enjoyable but time consuming habit (which I’m still rubbish at)
film, self process use rollei retro 100 or 400s, get a film change bag, a film opener, a paterson tank and a few chemicals and and a thermometer and you are off
scan the negatives, I find the scanner harsh but good for neg selection
I’d get a cheap (they can’t give away the cheaper durst’s) enlarger, a few trays and the chemicals (and the other bits)
there’s nothing like an evening with a good malt nice tunes locked away in the dark room
once the habit bites you can then get the good stuff (lietz focomat enlarger, nova deep tanks, RH metering) 😉
ignore the digital crowd, and enjoy the world of film
slr: get prime lens’
get a small compact: olympus XA is great (don’t get the 1 or 2) 3 is ok 4 is rocking horse poo
get a retro rangefinder: Yashica Electro 35 GTN recomended (make sure it has the battery conversion)Posted 7 years agoKing-ocelotMember
Graham no no no the film being loaded goes clunk click, there’s a whole romance, enjoyment and level of expertise in picking film, loading it and developing it yourself. I’m not saying DSLR is in any way lesser, it’s just a different process. Slipping your memory card into a PC and switching a printer on will never replace the DIY darkroomPosted 7 years ago
for enthusiasts. Horses for courses.TiRedMember
Nikon FM and 24mm f2.8 Nikkor. Small, fully manual and a lovely feel when winding the FP4… I used to run several films per wedding for friends as a present and was never dissappointed. Processing is normally by Ilford on pearl paper. A manual camera will teach you all you need to know about photography and put you in good stead for digital.Posted 7 years ago
For me it isn’t the final effect, the sharpness of the print. It’s the process of aiming, thinking, checking, winding the camera up, clunk! and then waiting for the roll to come back from the developers.Posted 7 years ago
Oh, and all those discussions in the local photo shop about the benefits of Ilford over Konica, grain or not etc.pjt201Member
Taken with an olympus XA-1 compact rangefinder. I used to develop myself in a local community darkroom, but haven’t really got the time at the moment so I normally send them off. Used to send to Spectrum Imaging in Newcastle, but they’ve stopped doing it now so looking for somewhere new.Posted 7 years agoskiMember
Anyone want a Lines and Jones 5×4 enlarger (cold cathode), think I still have all the plates from 35mm up to 5×4.
A classic enlarger, needs punchy negs, but produces wonderful rich results with fibre based papers & no bigger than your normal 6×6 enlarger.
Used to work as a B&W hand printer many years ago when my eyes were good! Managed to sort out a great home darkroom, but sadly, now don’t have the time or eyesight anymore 😉
Some great photographs up there btw ^^^Posted 7 years ago
As I lent my 5D to our friend doing the wedding togging, and of course couldn’t resist having a camera in my hands at some point in the proceedings, I picked up some Ilford 3200 ISO, my old EOS300, and the nifty fifty, I put three rolls through it during the reception.
As I’d told the real tog to put his camera down and have a drink by then, I reckon these grainy shots portray the boozing into the morning quite well.
By contrast, shots earlier in the evening (and therefore infinitely better technically)on the 5D and converted just look too clean and a little lifeless by comparison:
As I’m now in Australia where there’s considerably more light than a marquee at 3am, I’ve got some XP50 in it for some smooth silky landscapes (hopefully)Posted 7 years agopjt201Member
get a small compact: olympus XA is great (don’t get the 1 or 2) 3 is ok 4 is rocking horse poo
Not sure I agree with that. The original XA is the only true rangefinder, XA1 is a fixed focus, XA2 is scale focus, XA3 is an XA2 with DX capabilities so it sets your film speed automatically and XA4 is the same with a wider angle lens.
just realised, i got the designation wrong in my photo above, that was taken with an original XA.Posted 7 years ago
yes, and it takes 200mS on my DSLR There’s a diference between photography and alchemical fetishism
Oh bugger off Barnes and go and troll on a thread about bottoms and zoom lenses.
Really, no need at all. We all know you think the camera is a flawed instrument, and your eyes have a depth of field not even a pinhole camera could. (Ironic that, given your love for modern gear that the thing closest to achieving your wish for unlimited DoF would be the oldest camera of all).
That photography thread the other day was going fine until you stepped in, then it just got ridiculous. Thankfully, by just filtering out your posts it still made sense. Now run along and start a thread about f/22 bottoms…Posted 7 years agosimonfbarnesMember
That photography thread the other day was going fine until you stepped in, then it just got ridiculous.
whereas this one just started ridiculous ?Posted 7 years ago
I too love the nostalia of monochrome wet processing, but that’s as far as it gets with me, fond memories of obsolete technology.ElfinsafetyMember
now that you can get a paper from permajet that looks exactly like oriental seagul fb pearl with a bit of selenium tone there is no point in using film.
Now that you can get bicycles with engines, there’s no point in using a pedal cycle…
Oh how I used to love messing about in the darkroom at college (now and then I’d get some photographic processing done too!).
Digital is different, but no more exciting. Just a different process. I think it’s fun to see photography working, though, in a darkroom. I do enjoy using Photoshop to create effects not possible in a darkroom though. It’s all fun.
I reckon these grainy shots portray the boozing into the morning quite well.
Grain. Mmmm….. HP5 pushed to 1600…. (Sighs wistfully)
By contrast, shots earlier in the evening (and therefore infinitely better technically)on the 5D and converted just look too clean and a little lifeless by comparison
Digital technology has improved to the degree that ‘noise’ is now a rapidly disappearing thing of the past. But grain is the actual crystals in the film, which show up in the print. A reassuringly physical thing. I miss that. 🙁
There’s a diference between photography and alchemical fetishism
For you, maybe. Not for me. And not for others either, it seems. Back in yer box, Barnes…Posted 7 years ago
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