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  • A lighter version of the DHF?
  • mjsmke
    Full Member

    On my hardtail I currently have a 2.5 and 2.3 DHF’s. The grip is excellent but I really notice the extra weight. I had a 2.3 Aggressor on the rear last year but found that quite square and heavy on 30mm rims.

    Is there anything out there much lighter for the front and rear? Mostly loose over hard and a few roots.

    I’m thinking maybe a 2.4 ardent on the rear and keep the 2.5 dhf on the front. Or, I have a spare 2.3 DHR2 that i could put on the front and something else on the rear?

    jimmy748
    Full Member

    Dissector for the rear, keep the DHF on the front.

    lawman91
    Full Member

    As said Dissector on the rear would be a good choice. Have to say I find the 2.4 Dissector just as grippy as 2.3 DHF up front, so if you really wanted to shed some weight and some speed, could try Dissector front and rear. If you don’t like it, you’ve got a spare for when the rear wears out!

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    the00
    Free Member

    What casing do you use, and do you suffer pinch flats?
    The Schwalbe Hans Dampf Evo might be an option, but I haven’t tried one.
    I did like the Michelin Wild Enduro as a rear tyre, I found it a bit faster rolling than a DHF.

    ajantom
    Full Member

    2.4 or 2.6 WTB Vigilantes have great grip.
    The new sidewall protection on the ‘Light’ casing tyres means they’re much more robust, I’ve been running one on the front of my rigid Stooge for a year now with zero problems.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    I’d suggest the Bontrager XR4 as a lighter, faster rolling alternative to the DHF for the front wheel.

    I was riding the 2.4in version in lockdown v1 and it made a big difference in effort & speed on the long pedal over to the local hill.

    Doesn’t really look “like a minion”, but does kind-of feel like one when riding – just with a bit less bite and less sturdy obvs.

    joebristol
    Full Member

    A lot of the weight of the dhf is in the size of the rubber knobs. In exo casing it’s not wildly heavy (I think the 2.5x650b is just over 900g) – so to save weight you are going to lose some rubber.

    You might find instead of saving weight you get something with a better rolling resistance.

    On the back I’d replace the 2.3 dhf with something that still brakes well but has less resistance. Normally I run an aggressor in the summer and dhr2 from October – March / April time.

    I was going to try a dissector this year as it’s meant to roll faster / generally be better than the aggressor – but then I saw a slaughter 2.6 grid in the Spec tyre sale for £12 so I’m going to give that a go (if it fits through the back of my bike).

    I’ve wanged a 2.6” Forekaster on the back of my new ht – said to be ‘aggressive xc’. Hoping just to run it all year round (dhf 2.5” front in summer / magic mary 2.6” front the rest of the year). It coped with slop last weekend on some
    Bridleways much better than I expected – will be interesting to see how it rolls in the summer. It’s pretty light for a 2.6” tyre so I’ve stuck a Rimpact in there just in case.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    DHR2 is a better front tyre than the DHF anyway (imo of course)

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    What casing do you use, and do you suffer pinch flats?

    Never had one. Running EXO 3C Maxx Terra.

    I have 2.35 Forekasters on another bike which do roll very well. Tempted by the Dissector; that looks a good allrounder.

    carlos
    Free Member

    DHR2 in 2.4WT flavour Front and Rear

    Yak
    Full Member

    I used to run the same combo. Now through autumn and winter I have am on wild enduros. The grip, damping and support is far better. Heavier too, so when I swap back to the dhfs late spring or thereabouts they will feel lovely and light.

    lawman91
    Full Member

    Dissector feels a bit slower than than the Forekaster, it also the best part of 150g or so heavier. The Forekaster is the only tyre that (touch wood) I’ve ever properly put a hole in. I do like the speed and lightweight though, but definitely not the grippiest. I do like the Dissector/Rekon combo on the Spur. It’s a bit lairy in deeper mud but for the most part it’s been ace this a winter on a mix of natural woodland singletrack, road and hard trail centre trails before lockdown.

    mccraque
    Full Member

    2.4 or 2.6 WTB Vigilantes have great grip.

    Even the light casing is well in excess of 1100g

    intheborders
    Free Member

    2.3 DHF on the front and Minion SS for the rear.

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    I do like the Dissector/Rekon combo on

    That sounds a good option. Anyone know where I can get a 27.5 x 2.4 or 2.3 Rekon? The usual online shops only have 2.6 or 2.8.

    luket
    Full Member

    I have run Dissector and Aggressor back to back. Dissector sheds mud better and grips better. Whether it’s much slower I couldn’t tell. That was summer and I’ve carried on with the Dissector through the winter on a hardtail. It’s been ok. All this on the rear.

    However, I did that because I had it. Would’ve probably preferred a DHF for winter and a Minion SS or similar for summer. I couldn’t find a SS with the carcass I wanted last summer though.

    howsyourdad1
    Free Member

    I think aggressors are an ok tyre. Braking traction is poor IMHO …. but it really depends on your trails and where you place your preferences on performance.  it isnt great for slow speed, steep slop, or deep sand.. etc. I  like your tyre combo, i’d stick with that 🙂

    Kahurangi
    Full Member

    Is it the weight you notice, or the rolling resistance? Minion SS on the rear for bonkers fast but still have the side knobs for cornering? Ride with one year-round and you’ll become a riding god!

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    Is it the weight you notice, or the rolling resistance?

    Bit of both but mostly the weight. I do prefer a light bike. This is for a Bird Zero TR thats mostly used for messing about locally but i still find it heavy and a bit slow with the DHF’s.

    How would the Minion SS be on a 30mm rim? Could be good with the Dissector up front.

    joebristol
    Full Member

    I think the SS is only a 2.3” and doesn’t play that nicely with 30mm rims from what I’ve read. Seen a picture where the side knobs would touch the floor when going in a straight line.

    If you want semi slick with side knobs you could try a specialised slaughter?

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    specialised slaughter?

    I’d forgotten about them. I think they’re quite heavy too though.

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    Ah wait that was the Grid version thats heavy. The control version is much lighter.

    joebristol
    Full Member

    I’ve got the 2.6x650b Grid and it’s 930g so not that heavy – maybe a hint lighter than the 2.5 DHF but faster rolling. If they do a 2.3” grid then it should be a bit lighter again

    Yak
    Full Member

    Grid is quite light. Maybe too light. Grid trail is a thicker sidewall and probably a bit heavier than exo. (don’t believe the specialized published weights, you need to add c100g)

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    The Grid Gripton tyres work remarkably well on the back with a Rimpact insert inside – it gives the pinch protection and sidewall support and the casing and compound combine to give a very good wear rate, fast rolling speed and decent grip. I’ve got an Eliminator 2.3 on the back of one bike – strangely it measures 2.4″ wide whilst I’ve heard the 2.6″ version measures 2.5″!

    Dissector looks great if you can get one for less than a million pounds. Have heard the 2.4 lasts better than the 2.3 which destroys its side knobs.

    BillOddie
    Full Member

    2.3 DHF on the front and Minion SS for the rear.

    Done this brilliant combo! But on a 25mm internal rim.

    I think the SS is only a 2.3” and doesn’t play that nicely with 30mm rims from what I’ve read.

    You can get a 2.5WT version now, but you’re right, the 2.3 on a 30mm rim is too square really.

    2.5WT DHF in the front and 2.3 DHF in the back is my go to on 30mm rims for “fit and leave until they wear out” tyre choice.

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    I’ve gone for a 2.4 Dissector on the front and 2.35 Ardent Race on the back. The Ardent Race has a great profile on a 30mm rim. I know it won’t corner as well as the DHF but should be less draggy. The Dissector is a fair bit lighter then the DHF and still looks like it will grip well.

    The 2.35 Ardent Race has slightly more volume than the 2.4 Dissector, though the same width across the tread so doesn’t look different in size.

    I’ll try to get out tomorrow or Tuesday for a lunchtime ride and see how they perform.

    asbrooks
    Full Member

    Apologies for the slight highjack.

    I run High rollers on the back and DHF on the front. I like the DHF, but wondering about the high roller. Would the dissector be a good swap?

    mjsmke
    Full Member

    I’ve not used a High Roller for many years so don’t know how it rolls. From what I’ve read about the Dissector, its suppose to roll well on the rear and looking at the tread pattern it looks like a mixture of the High Roller and Rekon.

    A few reviews said its noticably faster than a DHR2.

    Saccades
    Free Member

    I run High rollers on the back and DHF on the front. I like the DHF, but wondering about the high roller. Would the dissector be a good swap?

    My bike came with dhf and high roller 2, I’ve swapped the HR2 (2.35) out for a dissector (2.4). Rims are arc27.

    Much prefer the dissector, a lot less sideways action on wet roots and it rolls well. Clogged and cleared at the same rate as the dhf through the woods today.

    I like it.

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