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jonjones262: re. trial- you can do it but you don't get route badges. Once the 25km ends you get a warning/nag to subscribe but finish your session.
Stopped my sub in May. Riding outdoors more and dabbling with IndieVelo now. I do miss the Zwift social scene and race series though.
Yeah I'm doing most of my riding outdoors now but still enjoying 1 or 2 races on Zwift per week so will probably continue membership. Have about 3 weeks of "cheap" membership left to decide 😂 Ironically (with the price rise & weather improving!) the race scene is better than it's ever been - it's just a shame most of it has to be organised/run by 3rd party groups which makes it clunky, and a bit of legwork required to find some of the race series! Zwift are teasing "something new" on the 12th (in addition to the small new route expansion) although somehow I doubt it will be a properly integrated racing system!!
I do want to give IndieVelo a try although the ATV app is paid member only at the moment so would have to set up a computer in the pain cave first! Sounds good though, and sounds like they have the racing aspect sorted.
Still Zwift for me and still racing badly in C. My power is down on my best, my HR isn't quite 'there' but i really enjoy the races so i'll keep paying. I'm often sitting there and then just think "maybe i'll see what races there are" and next thing i've jumped on and done one. It's just some calories with a bit of interest too. Sure i could go outside, but i don't always want to, sometimes i want a bit of indoor fun racing..
Sadly due to Zwift dynamics in races it's getting impossible to break away almost. A group of 4 split off in our race yesterday, but that was the 4th break and i believe 3 of them made it stick, but they needed 4.5+ w/kg for 3 mins to get a 10s gap over the bunch. I was tempted to go with them, but there's been a fair bit of riding lately and i knew i didn't have that level of power to stay out.
Also still zwift for me, I'm getting enough usage to make it worth the cost and I still enjoy the races. My gut feeling is that packs have got a bit lazier recently (in B) and very few do anything other than wait for the sprint. I got called as a 'cheetah' the other week (by someone who's ZP history is literally full of gold and silver) because I tried to ride off the front (stayed away till 100m from the finish! grr). Getting away is hard though, I managed it in a mixed race but only because one of the A's bridged when I was 5s off the front then did the majority of the pulling while I recovered.
hard but far from impossible! (probably the same as IRL racing!) Me and another fella managed it yesterday. You just have to go very hard on a climb (doesn't have to be a massive one!) unexpectedly and/or deploy a power-up - if the rest don't follow immediately the gap can grow very quickly (keeping the gap is the really hard part especially if there's just two of you!!) You can't just do it on the flat though, the draft is just too strong for that to work I agree ([I]except[/I] if you use a Burrito!)Sadly due to Zwift dynamics in races it’s getting impossible to break away almost.
not that I race in B but I much prefer points races over FAL for this reason! Also adds a lot of extra strategy.very few do anything other than wait for the sprint
Needed one of those Power Ups on Tuesday Cat 3 race! it's very hard to get away in real life too 😀 . Guy who did, managed 450W for three laps, so the numbers on Zwift are not unreasonable. I may need some more weight doping though.
I much prefer points races over FAL for this reason!
They can be better yes but also often involve a Z2 cruise between segments. Though when on courses like Rolling Highlands it doesn't seem to happen 😜.
I quite like that (when a frame only option arrives). Would sort the current pain of moving bikes around for the 3 of us using zwift).
When my Stages SB20 gives up something like that Zwift bike will do. But tied to Zwift and no crank length options is a huge negative.
I don't imagine that they have done anything groundbreaking on the crank front that wouldn't stop normal cranks being fitted.
watched both the DC Rainmaker and GPLama reviews and they gave a fairly impressive review.
For little more than my original Kickr, that is a great deal! Not sure it needed the aero tubes 😀 My set up is my titanium cross bike running 1x11 with real shifting from the Gevenalle brake mounted thumb shifter. I was considering adding the new game shifters for access to Zwift functions as I can't reach them from the bike (iPad is on a shelf under the TV). I would think Wattbike Atom should be worried.
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/06/zwift-ride-indoor-bike-review-future.html
I hope it'll be quite quickly available as a frame only and that the virtual shifting upgrade for V5 kickr arrives soon. After 6 years of heavy usage I'm starting to have doubts about how long my old road frame will last (carbon stays into aluminium lugs and front frame that is now 20 years old).
Just read the DCR review. Looks like Zwift are making all the right noises for once! Compatibility with other trainers coming soon (though a firmware update coming for my original Neo is possibly unlikely, although of course it's not going to last forever anyway!) and they [I]say[/I] they want to open it up to other apps. Family Membership being in the offing is very interesting too (depending on how they price it of course).
I think anyone else making a smart bike should be worried! Over £3k for the Tacx one, vs this - which is probably better, anyway!!I would think Wattbike Atom should be worried.
It's 2mm short on my rocker plate I bought for my stages bike. Boo.
Might be shorter with a full fat kickr.
I actually have a kickr v5 in the shed so I'd be interested in the frame.
Looks interesting.
I was intending on buying a Wattbike later this year to use during the winter months but it looks like the Zwift thing could be just as good but £1k cheaper!
DCR seems to like it - if anyone has a suitable Wahoo trainer the bike and cog are going to be available separately later.
does it come with a years sub?
my Neo is 7 years old this year, and I like the movement with the motion plates for Z2 rides, but they are useless for efforts, and I could live without them
OG Neo, associated SRAM Cassttes and spare free hubs, Baseplates, Zwift Play, I'd cover half of this selling the bits I have probably, and £18 quid a month for a sub, if it includes a years sub, then if it's in stock in October, I'll probably pick one up, no brainer considering I never really venture outside Nov-Feb, and I just restarted my sub as the weather has been so poor over the last couple of months
GPlama is going to do a strip down so we’ll learn more about the components.
interested in this, I tried a quad lock to mount my iPhone, but it blocks the airflow from my Headwind too much, all that stem junk can go in the bin if it's removable
it doesn't [I]say[/I] that it does, but it's not actually available for sale yet, and it'd be a bit weird if it didn't (I think) because it's completely useless without a Zwift sub right now!does it come with a years sub?
I've got a whole trainer desk thing, so have 2 fans each mounted off to the side which I actually prefer anyway to a frontal one (granted they're Vacmaster Cardios which are a fair bit cheaper for 2 than Headwinds!!)interested in this, I tried a quad lock to mount my iPhone, but it blocks the airflow from my Headwind too much, all that stem junk can go in the bin if it’s removable
yer i had the desk as well, but I moved the setup from the garage to indoors as out of sight out of mind, and I wasn't using it, now have the hand mounted under a tripod stand with a TV and a laptop shelf, this one below, as I cannot do z2 or low intensity efforts staring at Zwift, so watch TV series, don't have much space L+R,
an Elite aria might work better for me now, but does anyone know what the one in the DCRainmaker vid is?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08XW7V964/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
@dirtyrider that's the JetBlack one. Think the remote is IR though which is not ideal. I really rate the Vacmaster Cardios that I have (which have RF remotes) plus they are discounted at the moment! 😂