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Just managed 44 mpg from the S Max (1.8 CDTI) for the first time since I’ve had it. Very nearly changed the colour of the cell on my FuelEconomy.xls spreadsheet and applied a bold and underline format.

If I had been any sadder I would have done a little dance. Maybe I’ll save that until I get 45 mpg.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:22 pm
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It was probably 70mpg on the octavia, I did get 90's but it was a long downhill run out of the alps.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:24 pm
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33mpg would be my dream on the Mondeo


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:28 pm
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having a spreadsheet 😯


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:31 pm
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If you have a fuel economy spreadsheet may I suggest any savings it makes you are used to buy a life!


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:32 pm
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Posted : 04/08/2014 12:33 pm
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6.5L/100kms is what my Fiesta should get. Can do it too.
Gashog is the first app I bought when the AppStore launched way back when, nearly 100000km of fill ups on it now.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:35 pm
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I like getting 66.6mpg, fuel economy of the beast.

Holy trail is anything above 77.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:36 pm
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I bet you used to spend days making revision timetables, didn't you?

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Posted : 04/08/2014 12:37 pm
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[i]6.5L/100kms[/i]

Litres per 100km? That's quite a rubbish measurement, I say.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 12:49 pm
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I have a spreadsheet. I drive a 130i. My best is 35.8mpg, worst 27.8mpg and average is 32.3mpg over 12,012 miles. I must get out more.

EDIT: I want a Focus EcoBoost 125. Having had one as a hire car I reckon I could get close to 60mpg with it.


 
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miles per unit of volume that has not been sold at the pumps since the 1980's... is a rubbish measurement 😉

when my leon cupra was new, the challenge was to get the mpg in to single figures.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:17 pm
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when I had a 4.2 V8 Landrover the challenge was to get it into double figures


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:25 pm
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I get 44ish from my 320d regularly, about 550-600 miles from full to red, follow it with Fuelly. Whack all the figures in and itll do the rest.


 
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miles per unit of volume that has not been sold at the pumps since the 1980's... is a rubbish measurement

This. The continuing use of imperial measurements infuriates me more than it should.

I once spent a very enjoyable afternoon at a track day trying to get a BMW M5 to go below 5mpg. Managed a relatively frugal 7mpg in the end...


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:32 pm
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focus oilburner.
about 52mpg is normal
~18 kpl
~5.7 lp100km

Anything above 55mpg and I buy myself a pizza.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:34 pm
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miles per unit of volume that has not been sold at the pumps since the 1980's... is a rubbish measurement

Perhaps my Mazda has it right then, Litres/100 Miles.

Its an odd mix but at least it matches the UK units that fuel is sold in and distance.

Average figure on the display is 9.8l/100m IIRC, though I usually just fill up when the orange light comes on which is roughly every 550 miles


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 1:37 pm
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I got 16mpg on a 200 mile run the best I've got is about 35mpg.. You would think its a V8 or some other powerful engine, but its a 1.6 8v Astra 😐


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:11 pm
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Used to be really pleased to get 60mpg. Since changing my driving style, I am now disappointed if I get under 60mpg.

Best ever in this car was earlier this year; 68.8mpg over a tank when there seemed to be a bit less traffic on my commute, the weather seemed just right and I didn't have to do any silly little journies for that tank of fuel. (I think the computer showed 72mpg).


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:15 pm
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Passat 2.0 tdi here, with 49,000 miles of wear on the engine. Can achieve 55 mpg without too much trouble on a long steady run using the cruise control.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:24 pm
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40mpg for my t4, generally only ever achievable on French autoroutes
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Ideally 30mpg for the Landrover but I reckon 28mpg is the top
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And I think I can realistically aim for 90 mpg out of my new NC700 when I've got used to gear choice
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Some of you lot sound like those grimacing morons you see all the time trying to conserve fuel by driving on the motorway in the inside lane at 55mph, getting overtaken by the trucks and generally impeding the flow of traffic and royally pi**ing of those of us who actually need to get somewhere in the process.

I'm perfectly content in the knowledge that my twin turbo V6 is doing a maximum of 25mpg, but more usually with a healthy prod of the loud pedal somewhere around 19mpg. Still, you can't put a price on happiness as they say 😉


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:40 pm
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Can't all be as manly and butch as you eh "rebel"12?

[i]This. The continuing use of imperial measurements infuriates me more than it should.

I once spent a very enjoyable afternoon at a track day trying to get a BMW M5 to go below 5mpg. Managed a relatively frugal 7mpg in the end..[/i]

Says he using imperial measurements! 😉

It's what we understand innit. Other measurements are meaningless without coversion to mpg!


 
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I've got two MPG figures I've been proud of. One was 11 MPG in one of my Type r's, that was a good evening and a recent 71mpg when I forgot to fill up 22 miles from the next services and had already reached the bottom of the reserve indicator - I made it which was amazing.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:44 pm
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see this is another reason to love my cycle commute, I'm enough of a tightarse that if I had to drive a lot, I'd have to start doing mpg calculations and spreadsheets.

thankfully a trip to do the big shop is about my usual weekly driving limit.

swoon @ rebel12


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:48 pm
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91MPG drafting a HGV for about 10 miles when I first got my Audi.

Never again it was dull and painful I was killing time as wife had rang a few minutes before so she was going to be later finished than planned.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:55 pm
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Some of you lot sound like those grimacing morons you see all the time trying to conserve fuel by driving on the motorway in the inside lane at 55mph, getting overtaken by the trucks and generally impeding the flow of traffic and royally pi**ing of those of us who actually need to get somewhere in the process.

I'm perfectly content in the knowledge that my twin turbo V6 is doing a maximum of 25mpg, but more usually with a healthy prod of the loud pedal somewhere around 19mpg. Still, you can't put a price on happiness as they say

And how many miles/week do you drive in your twin turbo v6?!

If I only got 19mpg out of my car, I'd spend about £130/week in fuel alone, getting to work and back.

....prod of the loud pedal... 😆


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:55 pm
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I think mine was 30 to 32 mpg at the best but I haven't try the very long distance. 🙁

1.6 Toyota Auto ...

Normal city drive is worst but for whatever reason I like the car very much. 😀


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 2:56 pm
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80mpg over a 150 mile trip back in April.

No matter how fast I drive it I don't think I've ever had below 40mpg on a run of over 3 miles.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 3:14 pm
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I had 72 MPG on a run into London a couple of weeks ago but in the warm weather I almost always see over 70 and can see up to 80 MPG if I drive it like a grandad.

It's a 1.6 TDI MK7 Golf.


 
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Dibbs, lighten your foot in the t4 you Clarkson you! We have identical engines BTW. 🙂


 
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I bought my Mazda 3 last year and it took me while to get my head round the litre/100miles conversion thing. I generally get 8.5 or there aboout but got down to 7.8 something its a 1.6 diesel, must be doing something wrong, can't all be because of the bike rack on the roof?


 
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Mondeo 2.2 diesel 60mpg, had 59.7 but never broken the magic number yet. The previous Mondeo 2.0 diesel would manage 66mpg when careful.


 
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Looks like my Toyota (petrol) can be thirsty. Dammit! My next car will run forever with one gallon of petrol. That will learn you lot with 65-70mpg! 😡


 
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Well at least you didn't make a spreadsheet of your sex life:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/husband-creates-spreadsheet-detailing-wifes-excuses-for-turning-down-sex-9619111.html

but it's a slippery slope :p


 
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Quite. He got to have sex 3 times in two months the lucky bastard. He should count his blessings! 🙂


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 3:36 pm
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^ 😆 ^

Me 600 miles out of a full tank in my T5 and once a month would be a good thing. 😕


 
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I bought my Mazda 3 last year and it took me while to get my head round the litre/100miles conversion thing. I generally get 8.5 or there aboout but got down to 7.8 something its a 1.6 diesel, must be doing something wrong, can't all be because of the bike rack on the roof?

8.5 L/100miles = 53.8mpg
7.8 L/100miles = 58.3mpg

I'd say that was pretty good?

Mine is only 9.8 L/100miles = 46.4mpg as I was on holiday up to Northumberland back in June where I get a good motorway run & the roads in Northumberland are usually very quiet.

Usual is 12 L/100miles = 37.9mpg (2ltr TD) it is chipped and I do tend to drive like my hair is on fire though


 
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Jesus, it gets worse!

A work colleague was boasting to me the other day that on his way to work his new Bluemotion Passat gave him 72mpg. He then asked what I got from my car.

I replied "21mpg, a smile, and I get laid".


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 4:09 pm
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Was pleased with 36mpg out of my 23 year old Peugeot 309 when I calculated it today. For an engine largely in the late 1960s I think that's pretty good.


 
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I'm perfectly content in the knowledge that my twin turbo V6 is doing a maximum of 25mpg, but more usually with a healthy prod of the loud pedal somewhere around 19mpg. Still, you can't put a price on happiness as they say

Aw, how sweet. My twin turbo 3l V6 does 44mpg and with a prod of the loud pedal somewhere around 39mpg and 0-60 in 5.7 seconds.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 5:28 pm
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Got the bad boy I'm leaning on down to 13mpg one day, averaged 17mpg over 10 days (instantaneous fuel gauge only went up to 25mpg). The wee car averaged only 34mpg...God Bless America.

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Posted : 04/08/2014 6:13 pm
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On a longish journey, in the 900S (petrol) I would be pretty pleased to see somewhere around the 38mpg overall - this'd be on a 350 mile round trip..

New - to me - Octavia estate, petrol again, last couple of longish runs -- 47mpg last night (280 miles round trip) and more like 45mpg today (less miles, into Aberdeen -- urrghh).


 
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Kit is that in US gallons though? They are a fair bit less than ours.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 6:21 pm
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If you have a fuel economy spreadsheet may I suggest any savings it makes you are used to buy a life!

You'd have thought that would have been the end of the thread wouldn't you 😐


 
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I get excited when I see 45 mpg in my focus 1.6 TDI that's supposed to do 70.
Then I remember that i've had to do 40mph for 3 hours to get it to 45, and normal service of 70mph @ 35mpg resumes!

Is having an app for it less sad than a spreadsheet? 😳


 
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Mondeo 2.2 diesel 60mpg, had 59.7 but never broken the magic number yet. The previous Mondeo 2.0 diesel would manage 66mpg when careful.

I got 59.9 on the drive from edinburgh to fort william, was not amused... Did the last stretch down from spean bridge in total economy mode but it just dropped the last point going through town to get to the hotel. Damn you fort william! Finally cracked 60 to innerleithen and back last weekend, in the pissing rain which kept the speed down, nicely lubricated roads 😉


 
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I could never get our 130i above 27mpg regardless of how I drove it...... It did spend the first couple of weeks of ownership happily screaming around at about 12-14mpg though 😳

The 535d touring that replaced it is actually worse I think....... The mrs drives it during the week and it's all stop start town stuff. I had a look as I got in it and it's been averaging 24.3 mpg 🙄

I fill up with fuel, I drive, I fill up when empty....... Beyond that I'm really not interested if I'm honest


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 6:34 pm
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Average is 49mpg with a 64 on a 150 mile trip to Gloucester one afternoon on my IS300h, turns out its at its best on rolling twisty A roads.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 6:42 pm
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Aye, 'mercan gallons I guess. The truck gave a readout, the car I calculated. So, yeah, probably better if converted to UK gallons.

So truck ~20mpg, car ~40.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 6:46 pm
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Just driven down south and back over the weekend. Average of 55mpg for 340 miles in a 2.0 Tdi A4. Kept it around 75mph on the motorway.

Quite happy with that.


 
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My MiTo 1.4 155hp version is currently averaging a shade over 41mpg and that's in dynamic mode all the time.


 
Posted : 04/08/2014 9:10 pm
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Driving like Miss Daisy:

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Not bad for a 3litre twin turbo with an autobox.

(more generally found down around 35mpg though to be fair, although it seems to eat rear tyres faster than it burns fuel (must stop turning that DSC button off....... 😉


 
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It would be more impressive to add road miles cycled to your mpg and end up with total miles travelled and amount of fuel used..


 
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Friend Wood's Tryane II got something like 140mpg in an fuel economy test.

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Are we talking what the dash board says or calculated by fill ups etc?

If on the dash my 320d averages about 55 in stop start commuting. 60 mpg at 80mph long motorway journeys and drive it carefully over 70mpg. Driver it like an idiot and I still cant get it less than 40mpg.

Generally I get about 600 miles for £65 of fuel.

My old 2.0 VAG diesel did 520 miles on £80 of fuel!


 
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The old 2.2 D-CAT Avensis was terrible considering it was a diesel. Usual figure was around 32mpg but would hover around 39mpg on a motorway journey. Very rarely saw a 4 as the first digit on the readout. It did have a lot of torque though so was fun sometimes.

New Berlingo reckons it's been doing 48-49mpg but I've worked it out at closer to 46. Still haven't managed to get it to 50 over the full tank yet. Only slightly more boring than the Avensis, more of a challenge to drive quickly.


 
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Some of you lot sound like those grimacing morons you see all the time trying to conserve fuel by driving on the motorway in the inside lane at 55mph, getting overtaken by the trucks and generally impeding the flow of traffic and royally pi**ing of those of us who actually need to get somewhere in the process.

I (almost) always drive at the speed limit. 60mpg is the number I like to see in either the Prius or the Passat. Often exceeded in the summer in the Prius, usually exceeded in the Passat on motorways. 65mpg is the best on a long motorway run in that car.

The wee car averaged only 34mpg...God Bless America.

For the Japanese car? It was probably auto, and remember US petrol is lower octane usually, and their cars are often configured to produce as little NOx as possible due to their terrible smog problems in hot climates. Also remember that whilst our speedos are configured to read 10% under, theirs aren't so take that into account when comparing - an indicated 75mph on a US highway is more like what would be shown as 83mph here.

Given all that, a typical 35mpg or so from their smaller cars is actually pretty good.


 
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I'm pretty happy with a long run giving me about 24mpg in our Disco 3 V8, it can go down to about 15mpg on shorter run use though. The counter argument for such figures is that it doesn't really get driven 5 days of the week.....


 
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I replied "21mpg, a smile, and I get laid".

Cool story, the honeys must be throwing themselves at you macho man car. At what mpg do you stop getting laid.


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 2:23 am
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I get between 44-47mpg from a petrol 1.4 Octavia. In general use or motorway at 70-75mph. I don't do any driving in heavy stop/start traffic.

My Holy Grail was 53mpg on a long A road Glasgow to Skye and back. So mainly 45-60mph.

Good for a large petrol car. Astounding compared to my previous 1.8 Mondeo petrol. Averaged 33-35mpg and best 37/38 on long trips.

On my annual mileage of around 11k that's £500 a year less fuel (and £120 less road tax).


 
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Used to leave the work Outlander parked up displaying 90mpg when we had an I've-got-nothing-better-to-do-than-criticise-your-fuel-economy gaffer. Cheated to get it, obviously, but he never worked out how!


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 6:15 am
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[i]Some of you lot sound like those grimacing morons you see all the time trying to conserve fuel by driving on the motorway in the inside lane at 55mph, getting overtaken by the trucks and generally impeding the flow of traffic and royally pi**ing of those of us who actually need to get somewhere in the process.[/i]

+1

But tbh my Vectra diesel auto can easily average +50mpg on a long trip, such as Sunday where I did 400 miles on fast A roads and motorways keeping above the speed limit.

Hasn't got the overtaking abilities of previous V6's and V8's though - but half the fuel used.


 
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my t4 (88bhp) only manages 35/37 ish (calculated) but nearly did 40mpg on the way to the alps.

Dibbs - what is the tank range on the 690? i have a bent one in the workshop which i bought for the engine, if you need any little bits of bodywork and so on. quite a lot of the front end is broken! quite fancy an enduro myself

My Wife's T5 estate auto does 22mpg and over 25 on a run


 
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Has anyone else tried a fasted drive? I reckon my mpg goes up by around 3 to 4 in those conditions. Not sure I understand why. Mechanical empathy maybe?


 
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my VW polo GT bluemotion managed 60.9mpg this morning on the commute in, i regularly see high 50's but this morning was particularly note worthy! not at all bad for a 1.4 turbo petrol that will do 0 - 60 in about 8 secs.


 
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andytherocketeer - miles per unit of volume that has not been sold at the pumps since the 1980's... is a rubbish measurement

One of the best strokes the euro-hating Tories ever peulled was the metrification of fuel sales, used to put 2p on a gallon at the budget when I was a kid, now they can put it on a litre. KERCHING!!

But keep your hands off my pint Johnny foreigner!!


 
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After 8 months of commuting, I finally managed to resist the urge to go quick this morning and got 61.8mpg out of my 2.0TDI A3 Sportback Quattro. I usually get 53mpg on the same commute so I need a spreadsheet to show me how much I'll save per year on my 28 mile each way commute....


 
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my '51 Golf tdi managed an "on dash" 80.5 mpg average monday - not
too shabby given it's also covered 234k !!!

sex, with the wife .... errr what's that ??? 😀


 
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We have a few, read as too many, here are the Sad figures:
Passat can do 52 plus on long journeys but lairing about locally 42, strange I know but its a quick (modded) Passat.
Beamer, rapid oil burner, can do 54 on a run but I usually give up and it tumbles down, mid 30s ish, another quickish car.
Ancient Vito always high 30s can do 40.
Polo, quite a lot of mods, 40 cruise, 25 or less pressing on.
Rav 4, amazingly low to mid 30s.
70s Beamer bike struggles to go over 35 what ever I do.
60s Brit bike, 50s plus
Honda 90, 100 plus
Little 250 race bike on a full chat trace we reckon it's doing 12mpg!
We did have a diesel Clio that regularly got into the 70s and if you tried hard into the 80s but the garage costs made it one of the most expensive cars we have owned.


 
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After 8 months of commuting, I finally managed to resist the urge to go quick this morning and got 61.8mpg out of my 2.0TDI A3 Sportback Quattro. I usually get 53mpg on the same commute so I need a spreadsheet to show me how much I'll save per year on my 28 mile each way commute....

OK, here goes 😀

Assuming a 46 week year that would give you 12,880 miles per year.
Current average price per gallon of diesel is £6.11, you would save £211.43 per year at the 61.8mpg value..


 
Posted : 05/08/2014 8:17 am
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Have achieved 60mpg out of my 13 year old Passat 1.9 TDi estate 2 or 3 times without resorting to driving like Miss Daisy is in the back. It has averaged just over 50mpg since I've had it (only about 2000 miles so far), but that's a damned sight better than last time I had a 1.9TDi Passat, that car only ever managed 42mpg at best!

Had an E90 Beemer 320d for a company car a few years ago, occasionally got 65+mpg on motorway journeys in that.

Most impressed with 32mpg over a 60 mile trip (at a steady 70 on the motorway) from my old E34 540i Touring. I used to have to drive quite frugally most of the time owning that thing as round town it would do about 17mpg, and overall about 23-24mpg if I was careful... So 32 on a run of thought was awesome!

Just to show the importance of a torque rich engine, steady speeds and tall gearing on fuel economy... My Dad has a 55 plate Merc E280 CDI (3 litre V6 turbo seeing as there's some on this thread comparing them) with the 7spd Autobox. He's had it remapped and in general driving he normally sees about 37-38mpg average, which is ok considering it's size IMO. Last summer I went down to Devon in it with him to pick up a Caravan (don't ask), a 180 mile journey each way. On the way down, a steady cruise at speeds above the speed limit (but no more than the surrounding traffic so a steady 75-80mph) it averaged 55mpg! It even did about 35mpg on the return journey towing 1.5 tonnes of fibreglass!


 
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Just starting to wear the car in 80mpg not bad at rush hour start/stop traffic, up to 70mph, crawling etc. Harrogate to York. All in a car that does 0-60 in 8 seconds and 140 mph

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Was seriously impressed to get almost 44mpg out of an M135i on a trip to London recently. Not bad for car with 320bhp.

Fuel is getting cheaper too. Unleaded is £1.25 near us now

😀


 
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