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Oddly enough, I was at uni (yes, really, an institute of learning) with a girl who recounted this story to me and point blank refused to eat anything that had been microwaved.

It would be quite funny if it wasn't incredibly disturbing.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:19 pm
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To be fair, it is quite funny. This:

What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a transfusion patient and accidentally killed him when the blood went in dead.
is pure Brass Eye. 😀


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:25 pm
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Apparently that part might be true, but not for the reasons stated. If you over heat blood I imagine you'll denature the cells. I don't know what effect that would have but it would be the intended one.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:28 pm
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I think you'll need a Thatcher angle to get any traction with this thread today 😉


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:28 pm
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If you put Maggie in a microwave would she come back to life?


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:30 pm
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28,000+ shares and it's clocked up 10 in the minute or so I was having a quick look, social media at it's best 🙂


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:48 pm
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We've never owned a microwave. Use a cooker and stop being lazy.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:49 pm
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[i]Use a cooker and stop being lazy. [/i]

we tried but the babies bottles kept melting.


 
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some people can't afford a cooker hora.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:51 pm
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Did they water the plant, then microwave it?


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 1:52 pm
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Microwaves are more efficient. Use a microwave and stop wasting heat energy Hora

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Posted : 08/04/2013 2:02 pm
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http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp


 
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We've never owned a microwave. Use a cooker and stop being lazy.

Why not just use the far quicker and far more energy efficient method?


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:05 pm
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A few years ago someone put that up on a notice board where I worked (and engineering company). I took it down, marked it out of ten like a school project and replaced it. It dissappeared completely soon after.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:12 pm
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[i]Why not just use the far quicker and far more energy efficient method? [/i]

Well for me it's mainly because stuff cooked in a microwave is horrible.


 
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My lodger won't use or even go near a microwave,mind you he is from Blackburn where electricity is still treated with suspicion 😉


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:26 pm
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Well for me it's mainly because stuff cooked in a microwave is horrible.

It doesn't taste any different to stuff heated any other way.

But if by your statement you mean you can't stand microwave meals, or indeed, ready meals in general, then I think you have a point.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:27 pm
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You can't [i]cook[/i] with microwaves just warm things up, but they certainly have their uses.


 
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To be fair, it is quite funny. This:

What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a transfusion patient and accidentally killed him when the blood went in dead.
is pure Brass Eye.

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:30 pm
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It doesn't taste any different to stuff heated any other way.

you saying you'd happily eat microwaved sausages, or bacon? weirdo.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:32 pm
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You can't cook with microwaves just warm things up, but they certainly have their uses.

I do my poppadoms in mine to save with all the hot oil.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:33 pm
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There is a great debunk of this urban myth on snopes
[url= http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp ]http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp[/url]


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:35 pm
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you saying you'd happily eat microwaved sausages, or bacon? weirdo.

I've done that before sure, but it was a combi microwave that also grilled as well as microwaved (at the same time).


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:35 pm
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I do my poppadoms in mine
seriously or are you trying to get us to blow up our kitchens?


 
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seriously or are you trying to get us to blow up our kitchens?

yeah, nuke a raw poppadom for about 40-45 seconds, nice and crispy, not fatty.

i've only had one fire, nothing serious (touch wood)


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:39 pm
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Uh oh - I use a microwave to boil the water for my coffee at work (no kettle in the kitchen)

No wonder I'm wilting - the microwave is clearly "corrupting the DNA" of the water... 🙄


 
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You can't cook with microwaves just warm things up, but they certainly have their uses.

This. Although it depends what you call cooking I suppose.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:40 pm
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There's a whole generation that grew up microwaving CD's and eggs in their shells whilst drunk too. Interesting parties.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:41 pm
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You can't cook with microwaves just warm things up

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Posted : 08/04/2013 2:45 pm
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Yep ... do bacon in the micro... it's alright as it goes

Not sure I'd do sausages


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:46 pm
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You can't cook with microwaves just warm things up, but they certainly have their uses.

I cook in big batches to keep costs down and then freeze the leftovers to be microwaved at a later date.
That is all I use it for though.


 
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Yep ... do bacon in the micro... it's alright as it goes

Heretic! 👿


 
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I also cook poppadoms in the microwave - by far the quickest, easiest and healthiest way.

You can't cook with microwaves just warm things up

Is that in the same way you don't cook an egg by immersing it in a pan of boiling water, just warm it up?


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:50 pm
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[url= ]heating things up[/url]
[url= ]cooking[/url]
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Is that in the same way you don't cook an egg by immersing it in a pan of boiling water, just warm it up?
that would be a type of cooking called [i]boiling[/i], tried making a boiled egg* in a microwave? yes you can heat up raw food enough so as to be edible still doesn't really count as [i]cooking[/i] tho does it? You can stick your bike on a turbo trainer and pedal it for a few hours, you wouldn't call it [i]riding[/i] tho would you?

*yes I am aware you can get various contrivances that make microwave "omlettes" and "poached eggs", not sure about boiled, I bet you a load of money they don't bear much resemblance to the properly cooked version


 
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[i]It doesn't taste any different to stuff heated any other way. [/i]

It's not so much the taste (although I'll happily argue that point), it's the texture. Microwaved food, and I'm excluding anything in a packet because yes, that shit is horrible, ends up being a bit leathery.

So non-packaged food like sausages, steak, potatoes, carrots etc... have to be cooked in the traditional way to get the best experience from the food.


 
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So mixing flour, sugar, butter, eggs and a bit of milk putting it in a buttered basin with jam in the bottom then microwaving it for a few mins to make a sponge pudding isnt cooking?

Wow learn something new every day on here.

I will admit its dangerous though - do you know how fat you can get having puddings available so quickly 😀


 
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It's not so much the taste (although I'll happily argue that point), it's the texture.

+1

Pie, particularly, should not venture near a microwave.

On the other hand, jacket potatoes benefit from a blast prior to oven insertion.

Tricky one this.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:55 pm
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I don't cook in the microwave, just warm up or defrost.

My wife par-boils root veg and finishes them off in the oven for excellent roasted veg that aren't too burnt but are all sweet and yummy.

The other thing that's good in the microwave is sponge puddings. If you microwave them they come out just like they've been steamed, but it's much quicker and easier.


 
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non-packaged food like sausages, steak, potatoes, carrots etc... have to be cooked in the traditional way to get the best experience from the food.

heston bloominmental has made good money from being non-traditional in the kitchen 😉

i've worked in a cafe that used to microwave the sausages and bacon... funnily enough they were the best sellers at the time


 
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Heretic!

As the Mrs first put the bacon in the micro I felt the same.... But then the bacon and egg sandwich arrived seconds later and all was forgotten.

The Mmmm I fancy a bacon sandwich divided by the Mmmm I'm tasting the bacon sandwich is the all important time equation 😀


 
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Seriously, how long does it take to grill/fry bacon?

It's a fairly quick snack no matter how it's cooked (heated)


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 2:59 pm
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On the other hand, jacket potatoes benefit from a blast prior to oven insertion.
aye, I do that, tried the spoke through the spud whilst baking didn't give me the fluffy jacket potato innards I was promised.

So mixing flour, sugar, butter, eggs and a bit of milk putting it in a buttered basin with jam in the bottom then microwaving it for a few mins to make a sponge pudding isnt cooking?
that sounds like it shouldn't work, but who knows, I vote for an STW ride/bake off, you bring that someone else bring a proper cooked pudding and we'll do taste tests. Actually better be several of both types 🙂


 
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I vote for an STW ride/bake off, you bring that someone else bring a proper cooked pudding and we'll do taste tests.

I'll second that!

Northwest venue, please.


 
Posted : 08/04/2013 3:03 pm
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Northwest venue, please.
of course, as chief taster I won't be cooking myself obviously 😉


 
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that would be a type of cooking called boiling

Yep - just as cooking in the microwave is known as [i]microwaving[/i]. The cells you're denaturing don't really care where the heat source comes from.


 
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It definitely works molgrips also said, quickest steam pudding ever.

And the variations are endless one of my favourites is to chuck in some mixed spice and a handful of raisins and put in syrup instead of jam.

By far the quickest way to obesity - thankfully we have bicycles to work it all off

A bake off would be good - and you can do alsorts of sponges in a microwave - as long as you dont mind them being anaemic, fairy cakes are very fast too.


 
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I do scrambled eggs in the microwave all the time*, will I die?

They do start a bit omelettey but a quick mash with a fork gives perfect scramblies in seconds, and no pan scrubbing after too!

*by 'all the time' I don't mean I'm stuck in a time loop permanently microwaving eggs, that would be silly. Its just a turn of phrase.


 
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I really didn't need to learn that you can make sponge pudding in seconds in the microwave.


 
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[i] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2269439/How-to-cook-the-perfect-bacon-sandwich-by-Marco-Pierre-White.html [/i]

Yeah but he's a tosser.

Anyway, the right thing to do if anyone really thinks microwaved food comes even close to traditionally well cooked food is feel very, very sorry for them as they've never eaten properly cooked food.

It might also be worth giving the worlds top chefs a ring to let them know they're doing it all wrong.


 
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I do scrambled eggs in the microwave all the time*, will I die?

Not immediately but you might morph into a chicken with the corrupted DNA


 
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Sponge pudding done in the microwave has a more gritty texture than one cooked conventionally , also as it cools it goes hard whereas the steamed one doesn't . Microwaves certainly have many uses but there are not many things you can cook from raw in them that come out the same .


 
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Anyway, the right thing to do if anyone really thinks microwaved food comes even close to traditionally well cooked food is feel very, very sorry for them as they've never eaten properly cooked food.

I'm perfectly aware of what properly cooked food tastes like,, but, as I'm getting something to eat for me, and me alone, I'd rather get an Iceland Chicken Khorma or Byriani, for a quid, and some mixed rice and vegetables, and nuke'em, taking about fifteen minutes, than have to buy all the ingredients, spend ages prepping them, then cooking them.
I truly can't be arsed, and anyway, it always tastes like a curry to me anyway.


 
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So mixing flour, sugar, butter, eggs and a bit of milk putting it in a buttered basin with jam in the bottom then microwaving it for a few mins to make a sponge pudding isnt cooking?

Tried and tasted tonight, vote of approval from Mrs. mogrim, the mini-mogrims and me.

Used [url= http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/165/microwave-sponge-pudding.aspx ]this recipe[/url], main failing according to all is that it doesn't make enough 🙂


 
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From some of the posts on here it's clear some have been nowhere near a restaurant kitchen. Fair enough really.

Nowt wrong with microwaves, there a tool. They do a job and they do it well. If your getting crud results chances are its your fault.


 
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Missed this will also try a vegan version tomorrow of what I am calling cheats cake - eaten too much banana bread today to do one now

Might not rise properly as it is a batter mix ah well will see


 
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Like most things if you overdo the heating the food suffers. The margin for error with a microwave is that much slimmer because of the shorter cooking times.
Scrambled eggs require great care otherwise you end up with leathery eggs. I like mine with a bit of moistness to them and 10 seconds can be the margin between success and yuck. With conventional cooking you get a couple of minutes before it all goes to pooh. The microwave eggs will be fluffier though.


 
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Just to add my two-pence worth, I've just eaten porridge prepared in just 90 seconds in the microwave. Not quite as "creamy" in texture as the stuff made in a pan, but yummy nonetheless, dead easy to make for just one person, and exactly what I need before I head out for a hard day moving numbers around in a Excel spreadsheet.


 
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Sponge pudding done in the microwave has a more gritty texture than one cooked conventionally , also as it cools it goes hard whereas the steamed one doesn't
That suggests that the cells do care about the heat source. Yes the difference between "warming up" and "cooking" is debatable but in some cases it does make a difference, sticking with breakfast how do you manage a fried egg the way I like them in a microwave? frazzled on both sides but plenty of runny yolk?
Will give the nuka-bacon a go at weekend tho.
Just to add my two-pence worth, I've just eaten porridge prepared in just 90 seconds in the microwave
90seconds? how? my porridge takes ~5mins of nuking, yep I'll hold my hands up not only at work but I also nuke porridge at home...and custard, I'm a milk-pan-o-phobe, burnt it too many times.
I've made microwave scrambled eggs a few times and never been really happy with the results, of course I screw it up using a pan occasionally but hit rate is pretty good.

but of course it's all IMO 🙂


 
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[i]From some of the posts on here it's clear some have been nowhere near a restaurant kitchen. Fair enough really.

Nowt wrong with microwaves, there a tool. They do a job and they do it well. If your getting crud results chances are its your fault. [/i]

I worked in one for 3 years. I'd say that shit restaurants use them and good ones don't. You can re-heat things up with them and do some basic pre-heat stuff but that's about it.

I'm sure they can produce acceptable food for those in a rush or who aren't too picky but they simply can't produce food to the same standard as traditional cooking can.


 
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sticking with breakfast how do you manage a fried egg the way I like them in a microwave?

How do you make porridge under the grill? How do you make a nice soft boiled egg in a frying pan?


 
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I'm sure they can produce acceptable food for those in a rush or who aren't too picky but they simply can't produce food to the same standard as traditional cooking can

From my perspective, they are not supposed to replace traditional cooking. But act as an aid, nothing more. Didn't mean to suggest otherwise.

Which was where my "if you're getting crud results" comment comes in. If your trying to cook a whole meal, your using it wrong.

But yes, shit restaurants overuse them a lot. Good lord, I've had too many meals reheated and annihilated by microwaves. And then they have to audacity to ask if you enjoyed your meal, as you've just pulled out a hammer and chisel to extract the food fused to the dish.


 
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90seconds? how? my porridge takes ~5mins of nuking, yep I'll hold my hands up not only at work but I also nuke porridge at home...and custard, I'm a milk-pan-o-phobe, burnt it too many times.

I think it's the Oats so Simple stuff ❗


 
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I'm a milk-pan-o-phobe, burnt it too many times.
I've made microwave scrambled eggs a few times and never been really happy with the results

Have you considered learning to cook?


 
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How do you make porridge under the grill? How do you make a nice soft boiled egg in a frying pan?
exactly. Microwaves only heat things up the rest of the kitchen will do specific jobs that microwaves can't. if you want to make raw stuff edible for humans yep you can use any heat source you want but if you want to create specific food stuff I refer you back to
cells do care about the heat source


 
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Have you considered learning to cook?
Hey I only mentioned what was possible with cookery, I never said [b]I[/b] was any good at it 🙂


 
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cells do care about the heat source

Except they don't.

A grill only heats things up - it heats things up in a different way to a microwave. If you had only a grill and a microwave in your kitchen which would you choose to use to make your porridge?


 
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Yep, I like my Oats So Simple. Produces really pretty edible porridge in a nice pre-measured quantity (very handy for calorie tracking and portion control).

Granted it's not [i]proper[/i] porridge (or "porage") - but it is quick, tasty and doesn't involve scrubbing a pan afterwards.


 
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Except they don't.
not sure what your point is aracer unless it's just purely to argue. I said you can heat things up in a microwave but "proper" food takes other equipment. Which now seems to be what you are saying aswell but in a different way.


 
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cells do care about the heat source

Except they don't.

Have you tried to make toast in a microwave ? 😉


 
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Have you tried searing steak in a microwave?


 
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From some of the posts on here it's clear some have been nowhere near a restaurant kitchen. Fair enough really.

I used to work in them. Oddly enough the ones with Michelin stars didn't use microwaves.

To preserve taste there's better ways of reheating food.


 
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Oddly enough Michelin star restaurants are able to charge for the privilege of not having short cuts taken in the kitchen.


 
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The original social media piece appeared as if by magic as a friend registered their scepticism on Facebook. I found it hilarious. It reminded me of some of the crazier bits of homeopathy. 'microwaves agitate the molecules' - almost like [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/feynman/10700.shtml ]heating[/url] then? 😆


 
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I cooked a layered chocolate cake with ganache icing in the office microwave a couple of weeks ago. Tarted it up with whipped cream and strawberries and fed about 25 people.

It was really nice.


 
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On the chocolate front, I was in a very good quality chocolatier just after Christmas. They use them constantly, I was a little surprised but it made perfect sense.


 
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Oddly enough the ones with Michelin stars didn't use microwaves

And as I am ashamed to admit, my own kitchen does not have a Michelin star.

Tools for jobs, that's what they are. Microwaves, not Michelin starred restaurants.


 
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I have heard of sommeliers using microwaves to slightly warm red wine before serving, especially if it has just come up from a cold wine cellar.

Not that any of them would admit to doing that of course.


 
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I tested out our microwave on my daughter's hamster. There's definitely some molecular disintegration going on - the hamster seems quite lethargic now. Could this be a homeopathic effect?

Once it cools down I'll slip it back into its cage before my daughter comes home.

If these things catch on we're doomed, I tell you.


 
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