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Yeah but behind his ranting there's actually quite an interesting topic for discussion.

But people seem more intent on outclevering someone on the internet to bother with that, which is a shame really cooduv bin quite inertesting. ๐Ÿ˜

Ah well.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:31 pm
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Guess who I want to put in to room 101


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:31 pm
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Elf, its a troll.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:32 pm
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Ooh I dunno, let me think.... that bloke off the R Whites adverts?

Lorraine Chase?

Dermot Murnaghan?

Oh I give up....


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:34 pm
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I fail to see how an RFID chip would prevent kidnapping. Then again, my tin foil lined house keeps me safe. Perhaps an understanding of the technology would prevent reactionary spouting of guff?


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:35 pm
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Well, if the kidnappers knew the kid was RFIDed up, thuy might leave them be. At least it would be theoretically easy to track the kid's whereabouts.

It's not that difficult technology to 'understand', so easy, easy. There. Calm.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:38 pm
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If you were putting RFID under the skin (subcutaneous if you will), then you either need a power source to have active RFID - which would be very difficult. However, if you have a passive RFID chip (like dogs have, like IBM patented for to track humans), then you need to be within inches to get a reading from the tag - the tag has no power to transmit you see.

So - with this understanding of RFID technology - I fail to see how this would prevent a kidnapping. It is easy technology - if you understand it.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:42 pm
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Well, some theme parks have trialled RFID bracelets so that parents can be alerted if their kid strays beyond a certain point. There are some parents in the US I understand who want to fit some kind of tracking device to their children (some Human Rights furore I read about a while ago) dunno if it's available or even legal there though.

In theory, speshly with stuff getting smaller, it would be possible to fit something to someone (ingested, under the skin, up the bum?) so's they can be tracked by radio, mobile 'phone tech or even satellite. How big is the actual GPS bit in a GPS unit? And they already use such things to track dolphins and whales and migrating birds and that.

Ok so it's all hypothetical, but what if future governments imposed legislation forcing people to have such devices implanted, even at birth?

Sometimes I think it's useful to listen to the paranoid, keep an open mind.....


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:49 pm
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If you keep it too open, lots of things fall out, like common sense....


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:50 pm
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Yeah but behind his ranting there's actually quite an interesting topic for discussion

That's true, but it boils down to one thing really. Some people intrinsically don't like the possibility of someone in authority being able to find out what they've been doing; some don't care. I trust that no-ones going to come after me, so I don't care. If I were a muslim or a black youth or something it might be different. There definitely is an issue of where to draw the line between police powers and personal privacy on the borders of legality, but it's pretty technical.

If you don't want marketing people to know what you're doing, then don't use their FREE services like Facebook or Google, and transact in cash. Piece of cake, now stop wittering about it.

Ok so it's all hypothetical, but what if future governments imposed legislation forcing people to have such devices implanted, even at birth?

D'you think that's even remotely similar to what's going on now? It's more like the kind of thing that Stalin would've got up to - historical discussion not a future one. If you're worried about the govt doing bonkers things, ask yourself why they don't do anything more bonkers than they currently do?

It would take a massive shift in the state of the Western world to put us in that kind of place.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:53 pm
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How d'you figure that one out Crikey?

Sounds to me like you're trying to convince yourself of something.

What are you afraid of?


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:54 pm
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read spychips.com then. It was on my favourites when I was working in the RFID world. Easy to put one on a tag when you control the entry / exit points - like a shop for security etc so easy to do in a theme park etc. They need an infrastructure so they have little value away from that.

If you try and shove a GPS with a 6 month battery up your bum, please invite someone to video it for our entertainment. Don't get GPS and RFID confused - you'll find security tags are crap at telling you where the path is.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 10:54 pm
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Cobalt spray is the way forward. Seen it on Spooks.


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 11:04 pm
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So...the OP is a plum yeah?


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 11:09 pm
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Probbly, Al.

Probbly....

Entertaining though, eh? ๐Ÿ˜€

If you try and shove a GPS with a 6 month battery up your bum

No, [i]you[/i] try and shove a GP and six month old battery chicken up yer bum!

I don't want to see the video. ๐Ÿ˜


 
Posted : 04/10/2011 11:16 pm
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