OP is ilovemygears mk2, albeit with a spellchecker
You need id to get onto the college I work at, good thing too. Stops dealers, thieves and others accessing the site and making everyone's life shit.
No it's not.
Yes they are http://www.metro.co.uk/news/68143-your-phone-calls-are-no-longer-private
Phone calls and unencrypted internet communications can POTENTIALLY be monitored or their details passed onto police. However, the OP said that they were monitoring MY every move which is a) not the same thing and b) bolx.
From the article:
The time and length of the call and the name and address of the phone's owner will be recorded under the legislation
A long way from knowing what you've actually said, isn't it?
He also said that they have my DNA which is not true cos I've never been nicked.
And not always by those who should be monitoring it; see the NotW 'phone hacking case...
In that case, the people in question left their messages unsecured. I left my car unlocked once and someone stole my sunglasses. Wrong, but not really sinister evidence of a police state, is it?
There's a massive difference between the ability to do something and doing it. I could potentially hunt you down and murder you in your sleep, as could most other people. We don't, though.
Oh and I read 1984 when I was a kid, read it again as an adult and realised how much I'd missed when I was a kid.. many things are improved by reading again as you get older 🙂
[i]their just trying a different method to get all citizens to carry ID ,[/i]
no they're not. It's the shops trying to protect themselves from huge fines for selling booze to kids
I'm 46. I haven't been ID'd since I was 17. Grey hair helps, I admit.
Maybe the shop assistant (who the OP referred to as a fat ****) just thought he was a bit of a nob and fancied winding him up..?
Do you not have ID? Drivers license? Passport?
I don't have a drivers' licence and I'm pretty sure that my passport has expired, or will soon.
But I've never been asked for ID, so it doesn't really matter.
Wow. This thread is beautifully barking.
OP, I'm worried about you, dude. Did that dead sheep infusion go to your head?
yea it did'nt work so their just trying a different method to get all citizens to carry ID , and you sir are also a **** and future slave to a oppressive regime .
Perhaps you ought to have a shufti at Twitter sometime, particularly the #tags that relate to #Syria, #Yemen, #North Korea...
Maybe then you might actually get a proper education, and not some dumb low-rent media degree, and actually learn something about real life in a repressive regime.
jumpupanddown, you, sir, are a hyper-paranoid troll, and I claim my five pounds
If you try to buy any sort of TV type thing, they demand your details then pass them on to the TV Licence people. This is not a legal requirement, yet shops will and do refuse to sell you a telly if you don't give your full name and address, plus they often want proof of ID and addy too.
I know this cos I tried to buy my dad a telly from one of they Currys or Comet or whatever it was oh I can't remember.
He's over 75 so qualifies for a free TV licence. But as I was trying to buy it (on me card, innit, saves carrying bundles of cash down there), they insisted on me giving them my full name, address an ting.
They have no legal right to do this, yet were insistent I gave them my details. Bastards.
I din't give them owt, as next thing I'll get loads of hassle from the TV licence gestapo for a TV I jolly well have not got (and a million and one unsolicited 'offers' from all sorts of companies trying to sell me shite I don't want...). Ended up getting a relative to sort it instead.
hahaha. oh deary me, welcome to modern life OP. Do you want cashback?
You gotta be like Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy, dudes...
Don't fight it. Stay zen. And the bad things can't ruin your lives.
Having said that, these are my favourite threads, so please carry on! 😆
They have no legal right to do this, yet were insistent I gave them my details. Bastards
How dare they! And there was me thinking having your father dragged away in the middle of the night and never seeing him again was bad!
In which case can I recommend the Land of the Free that is the United States of America? No one ever gets asked for ID there.
Yeah, just ask the 12 million or so illegal immigrants we have running around the country---of course my state,New Mexico, trying to do it's par,t gives drivers licenses to illegal immigrants---come one, come all!!!
Many countries don't allow the use of unregistered PAYG mobile 'phones. Our government has bin trying to enforce this for some time now.
Why? Shoon't people have the right to be able to use a 'phone anonymously if they so choose?
Whilst the OP may be just a tad reactionary, the reality of the level of information that all sorts of people, including private organisations abroad, can gain about you, is quite disturbing.
Some parents in the US in particular are having their children chipped with RFID devices, to try to help prevent kidnapping and be able to track where their kids are.
Hmmm.......
Yeah, just ask the 12 million or so illegal immigrants [b]we[/b] have running around the country
What, the 12 million or so what prop up many of [b]your[/b] industries, you mean?
Did the Pilgrim Fathers have to apply for Visas off the indigenous people before they entered America?
How dare they!
Erm, well, yeah, actually. Tell me what Law states you have to give ID in order to be able to buy a TV?
jumpupanddown - Memberive added it to my list of reasons to emigrate from the [b]country [/b]formally known as Great Britain.
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Have none of the pedants had a go at this yet? Not surprising mind, you could be here all day sifting through the nonsense on this thread.
Have none of the pedants had a go at this yet?
Sir, the field is yours. Use it well.
ive added it to my list of reasons to emigrate from the country formally known as Great Britain.
haha, in Canada you have to provide 2 forms of ID to be served at a liquor store.
I didn't when I was there in 2009
Erm, well, yeah, actually. Tell me what Law states you have to give ID in order to be able to buy a TV?
Not quite my point. What I am objecting to is people feeling as if they have a grievance on the same level as those who had (and still have) to live through actual police states.
Have some perspective, that's all.
ive added it to my list of reasons to emigrate
How long 'til you finish this list? Can we help you with any of it?
Did the Pilgrim Fathers have to apply for Visas off the indigenous people before they entered America?
Nah, they just told the locals that the King had sent them, so no cause for worry or alarm
Have some perspective, that's all.
Yeah, that's what they told Picasso.
* Looks nervously over shoulder and wonders how he missed the implementation of a police state. Then realises his error and laughs his ass off *
ive added it to my list of reasons to emigrate
Which countries have you got on the list? I'd hate for you to arrive before discovering that they have compulsory ID cards.
Isn't it funny that all the made up second log in troll types such as the OP absolutely, positively have to be right wing?
One would assume that leftie loonies are a harder thing to carry off?
My money is on ton, as a way of recuperating...
Isn't it funny that all the made up second log in troll types such as the OP absolutely, positively have to be right wing?
I'm not convinced its purely right wing to throw a strop at an unexpected booze delivery delay. I think that's just called being thirsty.
I didn't when I was there in 2009
Maybe it's just because I still only look about 17 but I have to provide my driving license and passport if I want to buy beer.
ah well there you go.
not something I have a problem with, as you can see:
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Have some perspective, that's all.
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Very funny. Apparently borderline illiterate alleged graduate throws toys out of pram because someone didn't believe he was 21. And then demonstrates he doesn't know anything about the ID requirements of other countries. 😆
Don't bother to write home when you emigrate
The SO got asked a year or so back, she was only 35... she wasn't sure whether to be pissed off or flattered!
oh aye, shut the door on your way out too 😉
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the OP
It's such a shame that somehow typing has bypassed rational thought.
How is that even possible?
[\bored with purile rants]
Incidentally, what's the difference between just reading 1984, and reading it at degree level?
Yeah but behind his ranting there's actually quite an interesting topic for discussion.
But people seem more intent on outclevering someone on the internet to bother with that, which is a shame really cooduv bin quite inertesting. 😐
Ah well.
Guess who I want to put in to room 101
Elf, its a troll.
Ooh I dunno, let me think.... that bloke off the R Whites adverts?
Lorraine Chase?
Dermot Murnaghan?
Oh I give up....
I fail to see how an RFID chip would prevent kidnapping. Then again, my tin foil lined house keeps me safe. Perhaps an understanding of the technology would prevent reactionary spouting of guff?
Well, if the kidnappers knew the kid was RFIDed up, thuy might leave them be. At least it would be theoretically easy to track the kid's whereabouts.
It's not that difficult technology to 'understand', so easy, easy. There. Calm.
If you were putting RFID under the skin (subcutaneous if you will), then you either need a power source to have active RFID - which would be very difficult. However, if you have a passive RFID chip (like dogs have, like IBM patented for to track humans), then you need to be within inches to get a reading from the tag - the tag has no power to transmit you see.
So - with this understanding of RFID technology - I fail to see how this would prevent a kidnapping. It is easy technology - if you understand it.
Well, some theme parks have trialled RFID bracelets so that parents can be alerted if their kid strays beyond a certain point. There are some parents in the US I understand who want to fit some kind of tracking device to their children (some Human Rights furore I read about a while ago) dunno if it's available or even legal there though.
In theory, speshly with stuff getting smaller, it would be possible to fit something to someone (ingested, under the skin, up the bum?) so's they can be tracked by radio, mobile 'phone tech or even satellite. How big is the actual GPS bit in a GPS unit? And they already use such things to track dolphins and whales and migrating birds and that.
Ok so it's all hypothetical, but what if future governments imposed legislation forcing people to have such devices implanted, even at birth?
Sometimes I think it's useful to listen to the paranoid, keep an open mind.....
If you keep it too open, lots of things fall out, like common sense....
Yeah but behind his ranting there's actually quite an interesting topic for discussion
That's true, but it boils down to one thing really. Some people intrinsically don't like the possibility of someone in authority being able to find out what they've been doing; some don't care. I trust that no-ones going to come after me, so I don't care. If I were a muslim or a black youth or something it might be different. There definitely is an issue of where to draw the line between police powers and personal privacy on the borders of legality, but it's pretty technical.
If you don't want marketing people to know what you're doing, then don't use their FREE services like Facebook or Google, and transact in cash. Piece of cake, now stop wittering about it.
Ok so it's all hypothetical, but what if future governments imposed legislation forcing people to have such devices implanted, even at birth?
D'you think that's even remotely similar to what's going on now? It's more like the kind of thing that Stalin would've got up to - historical discussion not a future one. If you're worried about the govt doing bonkers things, ask yourself why they don't do anything more bonkers than they currently do?
It would take a massive shift in the state of the Western world to put us in that kind of place.
