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[Closed] WTF - man beaten to death at local shop!

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Here we have a white man assaulted by a black man, he died soon afterwards:

http://www.halesowennews.co.uk/news/blackcountry/9133360.Upper_Gornal_man_remanded_for_Dudley_dad_death/?ref=rss

As we all seem so concerned about the ethnicity of the perpetrators of crimes against ponies, your opinions on how this 'Black' mans ethnicity relates to this crime.

The pony drowning threw up comments like 'pikey scum' so who will kick us off with 'darkie scum'?

My opinion? A tragedy, it appears the man died from striking his head on the ground rather than the initial blow and of course we don't know anything else about how or why it happened and it has no bearing at all on the ethnicity of either man - a crime is a crime! Over to you, lets see if you can treat this issue with the same total lack of sensitivity and respect.

This must be a bigger issue than ponies surely?


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:28 pm
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Mystic Meg just left a message on my voicemail that this thread is not headed in a direction of harmony and truth.


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:29 pm
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Racist.


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:29 pm
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I can't see anything relating to either mans ethnicity in the article


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:33 pm
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Me neither.

The only reference I can see to black is 'Black Country'.

And nobody could be that daft, could they?


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:36 pm
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Nope....
No mention of ethnicity in there ....

and rightly so ( imho)


 
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Its DD's birthday, can we not talk about nice things

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Interesting I'm guessing that Supertramp either has inside knowledge or is presuming that "delroy" is black due to his name? as previously mentioned no mention of race in article, but manslaughter is manslaughter no matter what race .. unless the offender includes race into the offence (but even then it can't be racially aggravated).


 
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Its DD's birthday, can we not talk about nice things

Indeed ๐Ÿ˜€

Thread here (about to fall off the page ๐Ÿ™ ) open to abuse. Irish jokes welcome as long as they're accompanied by comments like "Jeez, I wouldn't have put you at a day over 35, man"

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/happy-birthday-mr-deadly


 
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No, not my assumption, the man in question is Black!

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/black-country/black-country-news/2011/07/11/dudley-dad-fighting-for-his-life-after-being-attacked-in-front-of-daughter-10-97319-29030318/

My point is will you please treat this 'black' criminal with the same respect you treated the 'alleged' Traveller criminals in the pony drowning thread. Will he be the subject of racist comments too?


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:52 pm
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Lets just discuss "The Race" thing nicely.


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:53 pm
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What's all this about drowning ponies? Is that a euphemism?


 
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http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wtf-drive-a-pony-trap-into-a-lake#post-

have a read through, comments include Pikey scum, so is this man a darkie, and is he also scum? or is the racism allowed on threads restricted to certain ethnic groups only?

Neither Darkie or Pikey are words I would be happy for anyone to use, this thread iintendeded as an illustration of the obvious double standards on this subject.


 
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My opinion? A tragedy, it appears the man died from striking his head on the ground rather than the initial blow and of course we don't know anything else about how or why it happened and it has no bearing at all on the ethnicity of either man - a crime is a crime! Over to you, lets see if you can treat this issue with the same total lack of sensitivity and respect.

A tradgedy? Manslaughter IMHO

Had he not punched him no doubt he'd still be walking the streets.


 
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that wiz khalifa fella's tats are proper bo..


 
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Supertramp - to support your accusation of "Racism" can you please tell me which identifiable racial group "pikeys" are from?


 
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The attacker was described as black, chunky and wearing a grey tracksuit.

So they were trying to find the fella in the second link and have given a description of who they are looking for, the fact they gave the colour seems to be reasonable when giving a description, like saying someone only had one arm or blonde hair. Like it or not skin colour is a distinguishing feature, they often say the offender is white, middle age, male blah blah blah....

Stop trying to make something out of nothing FFS.


 
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he is not he is highlighting that people were happy to call people pikey scum without any real evidence that pikeys did do it or proof that it was even intentional if they had done it.
He is asking why is it ok to do this with travellers yet not ok to become racist when a black man does something bad.
He is highlighting the hypocrisy of some folk on the forum [ albeit in a crude manner].


 
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Lets say... a photocopier salesman had been drowning monkeys. Could you refer to them as photocopier salesman scum? Being a photocopier salesman is more of a lifestyle choice than a race.


 
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Rubbish band, too.


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 3:51 pm
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Who? I thought the Pikey Scum's debut EP was alright, though having seen the Photocopier Salesman live I was disappointed. The Drowning Monkey's I can't really comment on as I've not listened to them properly. Just caught one of their tunes on Youtube


 
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Really woppit? Heard any bomb attack broadcasts you'd like to share recently?


 
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identifiable racial group "pikeys" are from?

Freshwater fish, innit

Flipping gill-breathers, really get on my wick, come on over here and steal our, er, ponds........


 
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hey Whoppit is like a modern day jesus everywhere he goes he brings a message of peace,brotherly love and repentanc. You guys just want to perescute him
Drowning monkeys is overrated IME


 
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Perhaps I'm thick, but the point of this thread completely escapes me.


 
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Really woppit? Heard any bomb attack broadcasts you'd like to share recently?

No, not really. It's a sort of joke. The bomb thing was just an honest mistake, not a troll, which you'd have realised if you'd been paying attention.

hey Whoppit is like a modern day jesus everywhere he goes he brings a message of peace,brotherly love and repentanc.

Are you on largactil?


 
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Another pointless troll thread I'm outta this one.


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 4:19 pm
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Perhaps you should take some and hope for an epihany?
The bomb thing was an honest mistake no point mocking him for that.


 
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No, not really. It's a sort of joke. The bomb thing was just an honest mistake, not a troll, which you'd have realised if you'd been paying attention.

Oh I was paying attention alright. Your indecent haste to bring news of death and mutilation precludes you from passing judgement on others.


 
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Perhaps you should take some and hope for an epihany?

I can't imagine why.

The bomb thing was an honest mistake

I just said that, didn't I?


 
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Your indecent haste to bring news of death and mutilation

aaah, here they come...


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 4:31 pm
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I just said that, didn't I?

I agreed with you and offered symapthy.
I can understand why this confused you.


 
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Good for you.


 
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Mental ink!

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Posted : 12/07/2011 5:03 pm
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Here you go Bikeryder85 ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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Can I just post on this thread before it gets closed?

thank you. Carry on.


 
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Munqe-chick & Berm Bandit -The thread is far from pointless and is aimed at seeing if any of the voices are happy to attribute this crime to the perpetrators ethnicity as they were in the topic:

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wtf-drive-a-pony-trap-into-a-lake#post-

SO far no one has the bottle, do they? Is my point made?

Zulu-Eleven - you ask "to support your accusation of "Racism" can you please tell me which identifiable racial group "pikeys" are from?"

no point in a long winded and direct answer here, instead ask yourself this what identifiable racial groups are darkies from? or wogs? but they are without a doubt racist terms!


 
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supertramp, if you're looking to upset people, you should probably use the words "****s", "coons" and "****s" to make yourself look even more stupid.
Alternatively you could just stop trying too hard.
You won't change anyones mind by rubbing their noses it either.


 
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I think this topic has been well aired now - and some of you need to review your choice of terminology.

It's easier to close this thread than attempt to edit out the unacceptable terms therein.


 
Posted : 12/07/2011 5:47 pm