We are looking at diesels and as well as the mondeo estate the wife and I like the look of the Volvo v70.
The problem is that cars in our budget are getting on for 65 - 100k miles.
Would this put you off a car ?
Cheers
Steve
Depends on the price, most of my cars have started around that sort of mileage, I budgeted for repairs. Also depends whats been done to it from the Major Item list of repairs already (clutch, timing belts etc). The kind of miles also makes a huge difference. What age are these cars?
Nope. As long as they have fsh then you should be fine.
57plate galaxy just turned 103k here
No but i would be aware that clutch etc have a life span. I'd want to know as much service history as possible. If that's what type of car you want and you adhering to a budget you may not be able to be too picky, a good low mile car is obv going to cost more.
100k of taxi use will cause massively more wear to a car than 100k of repping on the motorways. At 40,000 miles modern diesels are only just beginning to loosen up so as long as the car has had its oils changed at the right intervals I wouldn't be concerned about high mileage.
I bought a galaxy a few months back with 2.0 tdci in it, 78k when bought and now hit 88k.
It has full service history and one owner from new. Just had a new clutch fitted when we bought it, and I didn't like the sound of starter motor so they changed that as well.
A new Galaxy with good spec/bigger engine =£25k.
A two/three year old one with OK miles =£12-18k
Ours was £7k.
The difference is massive - we can pay ours back and cope with some repair bills along the way.
we have found a 2010 volvo v70 2.0 diesel d3 model with 77k on the clock with fdsh.
up at 10490
http://www.tlscarsales.co.uk/used-cars/volvo-v70-2-0-d3-se-lux-5dr-frinton-201412119587803
High milage?
My dads vw tdi is about to hit 200000
100k is not high milage.
But i would not be paying near 10k for it as some dealers seeem to think....
How ever if your expecting a trouble free car with no chips and marks nor one that will require on goingmaintaince forget it!
what do you think about the car in the link above?
Honestly?
Full dealership history, Excellent bodywork, Full leather interior - Excellent Condition, Tyre condition Good,
That is the only bit of text that is not copied and pasted from a spec sheet.
You will probably need to look at it to see, what service parts have been done as above, when are the next big ticket items due?
Not even opening it . Price vs risk of expensive repairs is tio high for me- am oot
I recently sold my 2006 2.0 Tdi A3 with 136,000 miles. It was still tight as a drum with zero issues and flew through it's pre-sale MOT.
I previously had a 2.0 Tdi Golf that I bought at 80,000 and have just bought a 130i with 95,000 miles.
High mileage, reasonably priced cars with a decent SH are, in my opinion, great value. Although, you do have to be informed and confident enough to know what you're buying.
Buy on condition not mileage.
Is rather have a car that has done a fair few miles but been looked after. Things like few owners are a good thing on my book because you can't run a car for a few miles without spending money on it.
Our 330 has done 86k now and feels much tighter than my 61 plate Fiesta that's done 68. The BM hasn't cost too much to run in the 18 months we've had it. We bought privately and I was able to verify the work done it through BMW.
i bought a 2004 BMW 330d touring with 150000 on the clock thinking a big diesel should handle it easily. Six months later it needed new injectors at over £450 each at BMW ( obviously 6 of them). car was basically a write off but ended up getting non Bmw pattern ones for 1800 all in. So no at your mileage you should be fine but be wary of going any higher as the bills can be huge.
have a look on ebay theres a few on there
I still reckon the way to go is to buy a nearly new car (let someone else take the hit on depreciation) and keep it for a long, long time
We bought our Focus at just under 3 years old for £6k. That was £10k off the new price. We've had it comin up to 6 years and 70,000 miles now an I have no intention of swapping it for at least another 3 years. I've just had a full cambelt service and 4 new tyres put on it and it drives like new. It's got a towbar and I had cruise control fitted. It suits our lives perfectly.
If I was looking for a car and I came across the right car with good spec, 9 years old with slightly under average mileage, a full service history with no issues at all and in good nick and only 2 owners from new, I'd buy it. So why the hell would I SELL it, because that's what I've got! And I know it's history and that it's reliable
Sure, it would be nice to have something nicer with more toys or whatever, but I'd have to be crackers to sell it.
Oh. And I wouldn't buy a diesel full stop.
Few years back I bought a Volvo v50 with 70'000 miles on it .. Lovely condition full service history/rep car motorway miles .... Never let me down once was a superb drive and very very comfy with all the toys...
However I had it 3 years and hand was never out pocket .. Springs/pads/discs/exhaust/Dfp fluid/shock mount/air con packed in/central locking developed gremlins/fuel pump was final straw..
I'll never buy a car over 20'000 miles now..
Yeah sure some cars run forever with few issues but the higher the mileage the higher the chance of wear and tear and hassle ..
Look out for DPF issues. Check if it has one she if so when it needs replacing, they're hugely expensive.
@ PeterPoddy i agree 100% . I've had a 2005 boring c class 1.8 petrol for over four years now that gives me well over 40 on a run and hasn't missed a beat in 90000 miles. So as you can guess I'm a little bit of a merc fan now and not a beemer lover .
What large estate cars with a petrol engine give you 40mpg then ??
What sort of mileage do you do? I do 15k a year and I'd still prefer the peace of mind of a big non turbo petrol. I bet price diff+extra £ per litre+occassionao diesel bawk means the actual diff between 30 and 40mpg ain't much when you spreadsheet it..
^ one with an LPG tank fitted.
Remember Volvos will cost you the earth in servicing costs if you go to a dealer.
Honda Accord is a good option - 2.2cdti is very good 2.4 vtec is lovely to drive.
I want something reasonably new that will do more than 28 mpg average and doesn't cost 265 a year in tax.
Our Octavia estate - petrol, 1.4 TSI, '60 plate, near 50mpg on trip to Central belt last week.
Usually between 35 - 45 mpg. Is that large enough for you though?
It Is fir me however the wife doenst like the Octavia.
When I was looking at V70's I was told to expect circa £500 in annual service/consumables costs.
What large estate cars with a petrol engine give you 40mpg then ??
Well it's not a BIG car but our 1.6 Focus has averaged 39.2mpg over the last 52,000 miles (I lost some records before that!) and at one point it was averaging 42-ish when I was doing a lot of motorway driving.
We only do 10-12k a year, a diesel wouldn't pay. Plus I don't like them anyway. Never driven a diesel I like.
What's wrong with your current car?
The Volvo in your link looks ok for what it is. Are you going to view it? You can use the mileage to haggle on price. It looks a good car based on power/trim/mpg/size. Prob not very exciting to drive but that can be forgiven.
If it's been looked after it should be fine. Other half bought an A4 with 170,000 miles on the clock...but it has FSH and is Audi's older, simpler and more reliable 1.9 tdi, so far it's been excellent.
Not sure I'd buy a modern Diesel engine with that kind of mileage, this forum seems to be full of horror stories about Particulate filters going wrong, EGR problems etc etc.
I just bought a 2011 2.0L Blue Motion VW Passat estate, 100k miles, for £7.5k from a mate of a mate.
it does 60+ mpg with the wife driving (I reckon I can easily get 70+ hypermiling in France).
Perfect car for us since we were able to get rid of the (<35mpg) Freelander once I built the landrover to cover all heavy duties.
I still reckon the way to go is to buy a nearly new car (let someone else take the hit on depreciation) and keep it for a long, long time
The OP would struggle with the last bit of that strategy though, going by his posting history.
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He has just offered me 9k fir my s max against the vovlo which isn't enough.
I was offered 9.5k against a similarly priced mondeo at another garage.
Yes, but what's wrong with your current car?
Renton on have you worked out depreciation of the PX versus buying this car
Crap on fuel. Lots on tax. To big fir us 95% of the time.
He has just offered me 9k fir my s max against the vovlo which isn't enough.I was offered 9.5k against a similarly priced mondeo at another garage.
Err, reading your Mondeo thread, that car was up for £10995, £505 more than this V70. So the Volvo will work out £5 cheaper! 🙂
So you're going to spend 2k+ to save less than £500 a year?
Where are you getting 2k + from ?
Ap the vovlo is a year older and also has 22k mmoremiles.
Yor paying for volvo name...... Slightly prestige ford in a skirt,
Just buy a new mondeo titanium extendomatic
Youll get top px on your car .....
Youll get no chips and scratches
Youll get a few years warrenty and no mots for 3 years
If you decide its too small or too big then you will lose a fortune on it but it might curb your urge to change ever 27minutes.
It's at least 30 minutes trail rat.
Next one is staying hence all the questions all the ridicule from you lot.
Just tell the salesman that you've been offered better px elsewhere, given that and the higher mileage you need him to come down a bit.
I said that to him but he said no the price is the price.
OP if your car is clean with no faults why not sell it privately to get decent money back?
What age, spec and mileage is it?
mrs just chipped her 08 octavia in 112k miles no history because it didnt have any shed run it since new.. ywenty months since last MOT whoever bought it got a bargain all she did was put diesel in it,, a cracking old bus..she now has a fabia monte carlo 1600 smoker estate full black pack every extra thats ever been fitted to a fabia loads smaller nippy frugal threepenny bit tax cracking fog lights.. on the downside wafer thin low profile tyres front seats not suited to the larger figure shes already put 5k on it in 2 months..
renton - Member
I said that to him but he said no the price is the price.
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It's not, it a starting point to negotiate. Make a low offer, meet in the middle, drive your new car and get over this huge difficult part of your life.
In ell renton and if you did the deal the dealer would whack up yours on the forecourt. Go elsewhere.
Hang on giving advice to renton on cars is like shouting at the TV...
I've got a V70 D5 with 160k on it. I have every intention of using it as my hearse.
100k on a big diesel is nothing really.
hora - Member
In ell renton and if you did the deal the dealer would whack up yours on the forecourt. Go elsewhere.
Hang on giving advice to renton on cars is like shouting at the TV...
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The thing with asking for advice on cars on the internet is there is always going to be a few horror stories or difference of opinions. Sure some models are going to have more issues/common faults than others. But were talking volvos and fords. Just get one bought.
totalshell - Member
mrs just chipped her 08 octavia in 112k miles no history because it didnt have any shed run it since new.. ywenty months since last MOT whoever bought it got a bargain all she did was put diesel in it,, a cracking old bus..she now has a fabia monte carlo 1600 smoker estate full black pack every extra thats ever been fitted to a fabia loads smaller nippy frugal threepenny bit tax cracking fog lights.. on the downside wafer thin low profile tyres front seats not suited to the larger figure shes already put 5k on it in 2 months..
I'd like to buy some grammar and a translation.
It amuses me when folk drop a few £k on a new car to save money on mpg and VED. You'll likely never see that return.
Low mileage car is still a way forward if spending budget hits 10k mark imho. New if keeping it at least 6yrs.
[i]what do you think about the car in the link above? [/i]
It's the type of car that needs to be a auto, not manual.
And because there is so little/margin in price difference between the car you are selling and the one you want to buy they won't be moving on price, unless they think yours will be easier to shift.
[i]Low mileage car is still a way forward if spending budget hits 10k mark imho. New if keeping it at least 6yrs. [/i]
+1
We buy my wifes' cars new and she keeps them until they start costing money. Mine I buy older/cheaper, and chop once they die.
IMHO you've either got to buy nearly new with a warranty or go the bangernomics route.
Mrs J's car is the former, mine is the latter. You can get too stung in that middle ground, especially with big diesels with DMF, DPF and turbo issues ready to bite.
The Volvo d5 engine is good for really big miles. Our xc90 is on 193k and there are plenty out there with equally high. Yes things wear out and need replacing but a lot can be done at home if your competent with a set of spanners and there are plenty of specialists out there who can work on them. The v70 is not all a ford in drag even less so if you avoid the PSA diesel engines. The s40\v50's are based heavily on the focus. The Volvo forum is a great resource as well as a friendly place.
Few years back I bought a Volvo v50 with 70'000 miles on it .. Lovely condition full service history/rep car motorway miles .... Never let me down once was a superb drive and very very comfy with all the toys...
However I had it 3 years and hand was never out pocket .. Springs/pads/discs/exhaust/Dfp fluid/shock mount/air con packed in/central locking developed gremlins/fuel pump was final straw..
I'll never buy a car over 20'000 miles now..
Yeah sure some cars run forever with few issues but the higher the mileage the higher the chance of wear and tear and hassle ..
Cars with a few miles can be a pain too. I bought a Mini Cooper S a few years ago with 14k on the clock and it was a pain in the bum. In the six months I had it, it had a new clutch, new steering rack, track rod ends and an imobibliser due to a hit starting problem. It was only four years old.
It's no guarantee that you'll get a good car. Condition, service history and a bit of research are far more important.
It does seem made to spend a load of money on newer car to save a few hundred quid a year on VED. The depreciation on a newer car will be far more plus interest payments if you're not buying outright b
If you're going for high mileage, it can be worth committing to something properly high from a fleet if you know what you're looking at. Got a
Mondeo a few years back, it had averaged 35k a year over 4 years, but the bodyshell and rear tyres were about the only thing more than 5k miles old.
My last two cars have been diesels (golf mk4 and mk7 accord) but my next one may well be a petrol. There is just too much to go wrong on modern diesels (dmf, SPF, injectors, clutch) and all damn expensive. My wife has always had jap petrols and she has never had to do anything to them, infact of they get serviced once in a few years its good going. The latest is a 1.8 corolla verso with a vvti engine, its chain driven so not even a belt change needed.
Ok mpg is less, but the verso is doing 36mpg with her doing local short journeys 90% of the time, but my diesel would only return 42 doing the same, and petrol is cheaper.
If you are doing high mileage I'd get a new one on finance, if not then a 4 yr old jap petrol at peanut prices would be where my money would go.
What's wrong with the 2.0TDCI S-max?
Nothing. Don't need anything that big.
Anyone that says 100k is nothing for a big diesel is stuck in the 90s pre high pressure pump common rail fuel injection/dual mass flywheels and sll the emissions garbage and has been very lucky.
renton - Member
Nothing. Don't need anything that big.
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Is it much bigger than the Volvo in terms of dimensions?
Seen the wheelbase / size of the V70.
I'm out.
I've just got rid of my 55 plate A6 Avant 2.7tdi. I bought it with just over 100k on the clock in 2009 and sold it with just over 200k. Service intervals were 20k, so not too pricy. Still on the original clutch, still drove really well. Had a biggish bill at 197k when the common rail fractured, but averaged over the time I had the car it didn't cost me much. Now driving a V60 which is OK but I do miss that v6.
IMHO you've either got to buy nearly new with a warranty or go the bangernomics route.
Mrs J's car is the former, mine is the latter. You can get too stung in that middle ground, especially with big diesels with DMF, DPF and turbo issues ready to bite.
+1
I used to do the "middle ground" route until i bought a diesel and got hit with all the above problems...
No doubt theres good diesels out there, but how the heck do you find them?? People keep the good ones and sell the crap ones.
Now doing bangernomics, Mk1 1.6 Focus, cost less than the bill for fixing the DMF on my old Astra and there's much less to go wrong on the Focus.
Whys that hora
Because a v70 is as big as the smx you're getting rid of because its too big?
Basically, the older it gets, the more war chest you need in case it goes wrong, you have to make sure the price drops by an amount that offsets that. It's always an educated guess though. I hedged my bets and so even with some decent sized bills on a 90000 miler mondeo, I'm still miles ahead of where I'd have been by spending much more for a 60000 miler mondeo. It's been irritating at times but the economics have been reliable 😉
If you require high reliability- for work etc- then buying a better condition car starts to make a lot of sense, and that comes down a combo of miles, usage, age and service history
Spending over £10k on a high mileage diesel seems daft. You could get a brand new car for that much money (which is also daft), or you could spend about £3k on a Toyota or a Honda and get something very reliable and cheap to run.
Weeksy. Its classic 'had a problem with car/feel soured'. I've had this. With hindsight silly. I had a 04 Focus that needed loads replacing under warranty. However mechanically it was now tip top but I felt worried.
Renton the s-max is a very good car. Better than a V70.
Motorway miles aren't bad, but town ones are. Consequently, a newer higher mileage car will be in much better condition mechanically than an older low mileage.
A 2 year old car with 100k on it, if it's not a taxi can only have done lots of motorway miles so will be in great condition.
A 2 year old car with 100k on it, if it's not a taxi can only have done lots of motorway miles so[s] will [/s] has potential to be in [s]great[/s] better condition.
How the hell do you know exactly which car has 'motorway miles' and which doesn't? Trust on the seller. That's it isn't it. Unless it says 'taxi' on the V5 how do you really know?
Its the same (or similar) floor pan isn't it?. Just not as tall.
I'd echo "don't sell one used car for another of similar value"
Unless you know yours is about to explode
Fuel economy and tax aren't really the big costs its bills and depreciation
I've spent alot on a Renault Scenic (I know I should have known) but as other have said Diesel cars and cars in general can generate big bills at any time. This year we paid for a turbo and an exhaust gas valve thing. So its been painful.
No way would I trade an S max that's working for something I don't know about. whatever the make
Some one told me their boss spent £10,000 on a high milage volvo. He spent a fortune on repairs. Eventually he asked if a new engine would slove the problem . He was told probably but no guarantees. I think he ended up taking the hit and selling it as a non runner. The key thing here isn't Volvo its buying a car that's an unknown
I would never sell a car that was working unless I was emigrating