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I said that to him but he said no the price is the price.
OP if your car is clean with no faults why not sell it privately to get decent money back?
What age, spec and mileage is it?
mrs just chipped her 08 octavia in 112k miles no history because it didnt have any shed run it since new.. ywenty months since last MOT whoever bought it got a bargain all she did was put diesel in it,, a cracking old bus..she now has a fabia monte carlo 1600 smoker estate full black pack every extra thats ever been fitted to a fabia loads smaller nippy frugal threepenny bit tax cracking fog lights.. on the downside wafer thin low profile tyres front seats not suited to the larger figure shes already put 5k on it in 2 months..
renton - Member
I said that to him but he said no the price is the price.
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It's not, it a starting point to negotiate. Make a low offer, meet in the middle, drive your new car and get over this huge difficult part of your life.
In ell renton and if you did the deal the dealer would whack up yours on the forecourt. Go elsewhere.
Hang on giving advice to renton on cars is like shouting at the TV...
I've got a V70 D5 with 160k on it. I have every intention of using it as my hearse.
100k on a big diesel is nothing really.
hora - Member
In ell renton and if you did the deal the dealer would whack up yours on the forecourt. Go elsewhere.
Hang on giving advice to renton on cars is like shouting at the TV...
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The thing with asking for advice on cars on the internet is there is always going to be a few horror stories or difference of opinions. Sure some models are going to have more issues/common faults than others. But were talking volvos and fords. Just get one bought.
totalshell - Member
mrs just chipped her 08 octavia in 112k miles no history because it didnt have any shed run it since new.. ywenty months since last MOT whoever bought it got a bargain all she did was put diesel in it,, a cracking old bus..she now has a fabia monte carlo 1600 smoker estate full black pack every extra thats ever been fitted to a fabia loads smaller nippy frugal threepenny bit tax cracking fog lights.. on the downside wafer thin low profile tyres front seats not suited to the larger figure shes already put 5k on it in 2 months..
I'd like to buy some grammar and a translation.
It amuses me when folk drop a few £k on a new car to save money on mpg and VED. You'll likely never see that return.
Low mileage car is still a way forward if spending budget hits 10k mark imho. New if keeping it at least 6yrs.
[i]what do you think about the car in the link above? [/i]
It's the type of car that needs to be a auto, not manual.
And because there is so little/margin in price difference between the car you are selling and the one you want to buy they won't be moving on price, unless they think yours will be easier to shift.
[i]Low mileage car is still a way forward if spending budget hits 10k mark imho. New if keeping it at least 6yrs. [/i]
+1
We buy my wifes' cars new and she keeps them until they start costing money. Mine I buy older/cheaper, and chop once they die.
IMHO you've either got to buy nearly new with a warranty or go the bangernomics route.
Mrs J's car is the former, mine is the latter. You can get too stung in that middle ground, especially with big diesels with DMF, DPF and turbo issues ready to bite.
The Volvo d5 engine is good for really big miles. Our xc90 is on 193k and there are plenty out there with equally high. Yes things wear out and need replacing but a lot can be done at home if your competent with a set of spanners and there are plenty of specialists out there who can work on them. The v70 is not all a ford in drag even less so if you avoid the PSA diesel engines. The s40\v50's are based heavily on the focus. The Volvo forum is a great resource as well as a friendly place.
Few years back I bought a Volvo v50 with 70'000 miles on it .. Lovely condition full service history/rep car motorway miles .... Never let me down once was a superb drive and very very comfy with all the toys...
However I had it 3 years and hand was never out pocket .. Springs/pads/discs/exhaust/Dfp fluid/shock mount/air con packed in/central locking developed gremlins/fuel pump was final straw..
I'll never buy a car over 20'000 miles now..
Yeah sure some cars run forever with few issues but the higher the mileage the higher the chance of wear and tear and hassle ..
Cars with a few miles can be a pain too. I bought a Mini Cooper S a few years ago with 14k on the clock and it was a pain in the bum. In the six months I had it, it had a new clutch, new steering rack, track rod ends and an imobibliser due to a hit starting problem. It was only four years old.
It's no guarantee that you'll get a good car. Condition, service history and a bit of research are far more important.
It does seem made to spend a load of money on newer car to save a few hundred quid a year on VED. The depreciation on a newer car will be far more plus interest payments if you're not buying outright b
If you're going for high mileage, it can be worth committing to something properly high from a fleet if you know what you're looking at. Got a
Mondeo a few years back, it had averaged 35k a year over 4 years, but the bodyshell and rear tyres were about the only thing more than 5k miles old.
My last two cars have been diesels (golf mk4 and mk7 accord) but my next one may well be a petrol. There is just too much to go wrong on modern diesels (dmf, SPF, injectors, clutch) and all damn expensive. My wife has always had jap petrols and she has never had to do anything to them, infact of they get serviced once in a few years its good going. The latest is a 1.8 corolla verso with a vvti engine, its chain driven so not even a belt change needed.
Ok mpg is less, but the verso is doing 36mpg with her doing local short journeys 90% of the time, but my diesel would only return 42 doing the same, and petrol is cheaper.
If you are doing high mileage I'd get a new one on finance, if not then a 4 yr old jap petrol at peanut prices would be where my money would go.
What's wrong with the 2.0TDCI S-max?
Nothing. Don't need anything that big.
Anyone that says 100k is nothing for a big diesel is stuck in the 90s pre high pressure pump common rail fuel injection/dual mass flywheels and sll the emissions garbage and has been very lucky.
renton - Member
Nothing. Don't need anything that big.
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Is it much bigger than the Volvo in terms of dimensions?
Seen the wheelbase / size of the V70.
I'm out.
I've just got rid of my 55 plate A6 Avant 2.7tdi. I bought it with just over 100k on the clock in 2009 and sold it with just over 200k. Service intervals were 20k, so not too pricy. Still on the original clutch, still drove really well. Had a biggish bill at 197k when the common rail fractured, but averaged over the time I had the car it didn't cost me much. Now driving a V60 which is OK but I do miss that v6.
IMHO you've either got to buy nearly new with a warranty or go the bangernomics route.
Mrs J's car is the former, mine is the latter. You can get too stung in that middle ground, especially with big diesels with DMF, DPF and turbo issues ready to bite.
+1
I used to do the "middle ground" route until i bought a diesel and got hit with all the above problems...
No doubt theres good diesels out there, but how the heck do you find them?? People keep the good ones and sell the crap ones.
Now doing bangernomics, Mk1 1.6 Focus, cost less than the bill for fixing the DMF on my old Astra and there's much less to go wrong on the Focus.
Whys that hora
Because a v70 is as big as the smx you're getting rid of because its too big?
Basically, the older it gets, the more war chest you need in case it goes wrong, you have to make sure the price drops by an amount that offsets that. It's always an educated guess though. I hedged my bets and so even with some decent sized bills on a 90000 miler mondeo, I'm still miles ahead of where I'd have been by spending much more for a 60000 miler mondeo. It's been irritating at times but the economics have been reliable 😉
If you require high reliability- for work etc- then buying a better condition car starts to make a lot of sense, and that comes down a combo of miles, usage, age and service history
Spending over £10k on a high mileage diesel seems daft. You could get a brand new car for that much money (which is also daft), or you could spend about £3k on a Toyota or a Honda and get something very reliable and cheap to run.
Weeksy. Its classic 'had a problem with car/feel soured'. I've had this. With hindsight silly. I had a 04 Focus that needed loads replacing under warranty. However mechanically it was now tip top but I felt worried.
Renton the s-max is a very good car. Better than a V70.
Motorway miles aren't bad, but town ones are. Consequently, a newer higher mileage car will be in much better condition mechanically than an older low mileage.
A 2 year old car with 100k on it, if it's not a taxi can only have done lots of motorway miles so will be in great condition.
A 2 year old car with 100k on it, if it's not a taxi can only have done lots of motorway miles so[s] will [/s] has potential to be in [s]great[/s] better condition.
How the hell do you know exactly which car has 'motorway miles' and which doesn't? Trust on the seller. That's it isn't it. Unless it says 'taxi' on the V5 how do you really know?
Its the same (or similar) floor pan isn't it?. Just not as tall.
I'd echo "don't sell one used car for another of similar value"
Unless you know yours is about to explode
Fuel economy and tax aren't really the big costs its bills and depreciation
I've spent alot on a Renault Scenic (I know I should have known) but as other have said Diesel cars and cars in general can generate big bills at any time. This year we paid for a turbo and an exhaust gas valve thing. So its been painful.
No way would I trade an S max that's working for something I don't know about. whatever the make
Some one told me their boss spent £10,000 on a high milage volvo. He spent a fortune on repairs. Eventually he asked if a new engine would slove the problem . He was told probably but no guarantees. I think he ended up taking the hit and selling it as a non runner. The key thing here isn't Volvo its buying a car that's an unknown
I would never sell a car that was working unless I was emigrating
So saving 8 pence a mile and 80 quid a year
So 900 quid a year at 10k miles.
How much is it costing you to save 900 quid ?
Thats assuming that mondeo gets it book mpg and going off what you say your getting from your smax.
So real world its probably 500 quid a year
My Mondeo has averaged 51.5 on computer in 40k miles
Aye but ford computers seem to be good at telling owners what they want to hear rather than real facts.
If I can get a cost to change of 1500-1600 then I would be happy.
Its a year newer car than mine, more desirable spec and therefore more sell able come the time to sell it.
it costs me £100 quid to do 490 miles.
If petrol is at £1.12 ppl what does that work out at mpg wise
26.5mpg
So nearer 1k a year saved again.
Makes sense if you can get it close to 1.5k to swap then.
Im still subscribing to better the devil you know.
Hence why I want rid of it.
The smax is truly a nice car dont get me wrong but it is really poor on fuel.
The above figures are on a car with brand new tyres set at the correct pressures and new brakes that arent binding. Sat @ 70 mpg on cruise.
If a mondeo can get 45mpg plus then thats nearly 20 more than my car manages.
I know what you are saying about better the devil you know and all that !!!
[i]it costs me £100 quid to do 490 miles.
If petrol is at £1.12 ppl what does that work out at mpg wise
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I can't believe that an adult would have to ask that question... 🙄
V70 is just run it. DPF is not the same as the PSA engines. This is a Volvo engine not some froggy poo. Owen says it as it is. Don't expect 50 mpg from it, it wont do that. Its a nice car and not much is Ford on it, just generic stuff you find on all manufacturers like ATE.
Having driven a Focus diesel estate and owned a V50, they are leagues apart even if they share the same floorpan. The focus is cheaper, blander and nasty. V70 is big car and will be slightly better on fuel than the Smax. The 5 Cyl engine is a great engine. But if you are changing for less size and much more MPG, might not give you what you are looking for. But it will give a nicer and more pleasant drive.
it costs me £100 quid to do 490 miles.
The above figures are on a car with brand new tyres set at the correct pressures and new brakes that arent binding. Sat @ 70 mpg on cruise.
When did you last do 490 miles @ 70 mph?