[Closed] World gone mad?

I think the problem is that you don't do it live on air in front of millions of viewers.
The guy comes across as a total bellend.

He probably bought the maxxis calendar as well!!

[i]how on earth are you supposed to try and start a relationship with someone[/i]

He wasn't;

[i]It was a simple joke.[/i]

I guess if you work in a bar you might expect drunk blokes to say something like that and it would cause less fuss but two people working in a professional environment with a large audience?

Why are you surprised people think it was inappropriate?

He did it live on air, in a work environment. Now he faces a huge backlash, quite right too.

The world hasn't gone mad at all.

Rightly or wrongly, cultural that's how it is in the Caribbean - they are a lot more forward and open with compliments, It's not malicious.

Unpurses lips and changes mind on whistling the bird over the road from site due to above..

[i]Rightly or wrongly, cultural that's how it is in the Caribbean[/i]

and if he'd been from a strict Muslim or Jewish community and had told her off for not wearing a headscarf that would have been ok because it's his 'cultural background'?

He's a grown up and a professional and used to captain his country's cricket team, he knows what's acceptable and what isn't.

I thought Chris Gale made a bit of a dick of himself, but the reporter complaining about it is a bit much. Working in the media is a tough job, you don't get in front of camera unless you are easy on the eye. Look at it as a compliment. Laugh it off.

She should of shut him down by saying No thanks you are not my type, lets get on with the cricket talk. Or something similar.

What a ridiculous world we live in.

He's a grown up and a professional and used to captain his country's cricket team, he knows what's acceptable and what isn't.

I don't disagree with that, he just let himself run away with himself.

and if he'd been from a strict Muslim or Jewish community and had told her off for not wearing a headscarf that would have been ok because it's his 'cultural background'?

If she's was in an environment that demands it yes. The problem of watering down cultures to one global "standard" is surely one you're familiar with, and I trust you understand therefore that its sometimes quite difficult?

I accept that there are different social norms in different countries, places and times of the day even (and also gave an example of one) but for this specific example it's not 'world gone mad' it's 'bloke falls short of standards expected of him in his job'.

Rightly or wrongly, cultural that's how it is in the Caribbean

It was in Australia.

If she's was in an environment that demands it yes.

She was in a situation that demanded some professional courtesy. She was doing her job trying to do an interview, he made her feel uncomfortable with his comments.

but the reporter complaining about it is a bit much.

It's her work place, is it so much to ask?

Working in the media is a tough job, you don't get in front of camera unless you are easy on the eye.

casual sexism, well done

Look at it as a compliment.

And if she didn't see it that way?

behaviour like this by men needs to be challenged.

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/20/sexual-harassment-women-curfew?CMP=share_btn_fb ]read this, remember it's 2016[/url]

No thanks you are not my type

that would have gone down well. 🙄

It's not really the right thing to do is it? Would anyone do that at a board or shareholder meeting at work? Doing it in private would have been okay (as long as he dropped it if she said no), but doing it in public, at work, in front of millions of people....not on.

casual sexism, well done

Yes it is you hunk of man love, I bet you have buns of steel from all that cycling 😉

The STW moral crusader handicap is off and running, taking an early lead is nickc

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Now leading by 4 lengths 😆

casual sexism, well done

Not wanting to gang up on you nickc, but its a bit niaive to assume some of these news anchors/interviewers male or female are not chosen due to their physical or personable ability to attract an audience, as well as their god-given talent for the role.

it's not 'world gone mad' it's 'bloke falls short of standards expected of him in his job'.

I'm in agreement - he comes from a place with different standards, and should have exacted himself to the standards of the time and place the comments were made.

It was the on-air equivalent of patting her on the bum and calling her Doll. Professional journalist and his response is to remark on her looks and sleaze up to her in front of millions of viewers. Creep.

And I would modify what Pigface is saying, in general women don't get on the air unless they are easy on the eye. I won't comment on the looks (and age - that's another issue) of men in broadcasting, as that would be massively hypocritical.

I'll just leave this here

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Gayle's "strip club" in his house

but its a bit niaive to assume...

just because we all know it goes on, doesn't make it less sexist.

Strawman
Ad hominem
Knuckle daggers
Dinosaurs
Professionally offended

Just getting in early.

On the one hand, it was rude, inappropriate and sexist. On the other, it was a manners and etiquette failure rather than an actual crime, so it doesn't sit well with me that it was dealt with by means of a 'fine'. Better for him to have been roundly criticised and sincerely apologise and then everyone just move on. However as the fine was actually a au$10,000 donation to charity, I suppose that's kind of what happened anyway, really

just because we all know it goes on, doesn't make it less sexist.

No, but don't persecute Chris Gale, look at the wider issue.

It was the on-air equivalent of patting her on the bum and calling her Doll.

[i]don't persecute Chris Gale, look at the wider issue[/i]

Sometimes the way to address the wider issue and actually effect change is to take specific examples and say 'this was wrong'?

Otherwise you just end up with people making noise and nothing changes, like what happens on here 😉

He was a dick.

"To see your eyes for the first time is nice. Hopefully we can have a drink afterwards. Don't blush baby," he said.

Speaking to Grandstand during a washed out day three of the third Australia v West Indies Test, Fox Sports reporter Neroli Meadows - a former colleague of McLaughlin's - said what happened to McLaughlin was not an isolated incident in sports media.

"It happens, situations likes that, 10 times a day when you're a female in this sports industry and that's just a fact," she said.

"Whether it's the fact that the women's toilets aren't open and the men's toilets are, whether it's somebody saying something slightly inappropriate to you as you walk down the hallway, 10 times a day, without fail.

"We do not need that to happen to us in our workplace because that is what it is, our workplace and Mel has been doing her job for 10 to 15 years and she has done it with respect. Her career now gets defined by this.

I wish we could fine people for being dicks. I will volunteer to serve as Judge Hels. I promise to be fair.

Some people will think what he did was ok
Some people will think what he did was wrong
Arguing about it will not change either sides opinion

Can we just lock the thread now?

Whilst what he said wasn't very clever, he isn't being paid to be clever and I can't help thinking that his skin colour and general physique are a part of what's causing the outrage, which is racist. If Paul Hogan had made a similar quip I'm suspect people would have laughed.

She was there doing her job, he was there doing his job, if it happened in a boardroom with other people present it could be seen as offensive. She is trying to be professional and come across as such. Her work environment could be littered with casual sexism (many work environments are), so for it to appear in some form in public could be seen as unwanted and offensive. It could undermine her role as a professional journalist. Would it be ok for a male repoter to do the same in public to a female sports star? No, because she deserves respect. The power role is easier to see if reversed. It's not about asking someone on a date, if he had really wanted to he could have done that quietly after the questioning.

... and while I'm on the subject, just replace "female reporter" with "male reporter". How d'you feel about the story now?

skin colour and general physique are a part of what's causing the outrage, which is racist. I

I think you've now stretched this to "wtf" territory. How bizarre.

... and while I'm on the subject, just replace "female reporter" with "male reporter". How d'you feel about the story now

The same, with the added surprise that Chris gayle might be gay.

Kryton +1, +1. As in WT actual F are you on about? It's a manners issue. And as he's making a lot of money being a 'role model', if his manners fall below what is expected of him, he gets a commensurate arse kicking. To not criticise him publicly would be to condone.

Honestly if you think it's OK or just a manners thing go say that to the next woman you see at work and see what happens. Read the comments from the other female sports reporter who says she gets 10-15 sexist things happening every day she works. She is not there to get a date, she isn't there to be hit on she is there to report and interview. He is there to play cricket and talk about the game he is playing, if he fancied her talk to her after.

Anyone else listen to the interview on TMS during the lunch break?

If not, a summary;

It's not OK, Chris. Part of a wider pattern of behaviour. Female journalists hate it. Ex team mates think he's a dick.

OK. I accept that in this case it's what he said rather than what he is.
Mainly because a bit of digging shows he's done it before and apparently learned nothing.

[url= http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2014/07/23/chris-gayle-and-the-question-marks-over-non-white-civilization/ ]Gayle refering to a lady's pitch[/url]

@Mike; is that aimed at me? Because I [b]don't[/b] think it's 'OK'. It is a manners thing though, as in exceptionally BAD manners, indicative of a deeprootedly mysogynistic mindset. (Which I doubt anything will change in that individual, but we can improve his manners).

at anyone who thinks it's anything other than sexist and sleezy. It's totally unacceptable behaviour in the workplace.

mikewsmith - I don't think anyone here is arguing against you tbh, or condoning the behaviour. I think he said the wrong thing in the wrong place at the wrong time.

we are saying the world has not gone mad, its just an irresponsible bit of behavior, and we don't need to be firing Chris Gayle or nuking Jamaica over it. He has apologised and has as requested made a charitable donation as a penalty.

It's totally unacceptable behaviour in the workplace

This.

Thats the end of it really.

I can't help thinking that his skin colour and general physique are a part of what's causing the outrage, which is racist.

oh cool, are we just making stuff up now.

I reckon the outrage was caused because she is actually his twin sister but they were separated at birth.

sorry your comment read a little the other way as I first saw it, having seen the coverage here in Oz it's making people talk about the issues which is the only good thing to come from it.

[quote=nealglover] I reckon the outrage was caused because she is actually his twin sister but they were separated at birth.Only if her name is Rey