How do you overlook yourselves?Especially with a monitor?
Quite easily I would say. Get a simple monitor and it is fine for the baby. Get no monitor and it is fine for baby. Baby doesn't care whether it is being listened to, watched, heartbeat monitored or whatever.
But to make it easier on parents (if they are that way inclined and want the reassurance) there are a range of monitoring products.
For example, I would be perfectly happy with a sound only monitor for a newborn. Now ours are over 1yr old, I would be happy with no monitor at all. But Mrs M prefers to be able to monitor them whilst we are relaxing downstairs. If we had a simple monitor (in fact we started with a sound only one BTW) she would not be as relaxed and able to enjoy the little bit of time we have together as readily as she does with the ones we have.
So basically we bought the monitors because we thought about what WE wanted.
Of course if you are happy with a sound only one (or none at all) then all is good - all I have been saying is be sure to get what works best for your own particular circumstances.
I bought a normal sound only one for my brother when they had their first kid - not for use at night but during the day as their house is 3 floors as is my parents when they visit there, pretty hard to hear through that. For their second kid I bought them a video one, more as a novelty and I couldn't think of anything else to buy :p Again it's used during the day not at night but they much prefer it to the sound only one. They don't spend hours cooing over the image, but it does mean sometimes they can see him wake up make a bit of a noise then fall back asleep and not have to go up and check. You could probably also see foxes attacking...
True DrP which is when we used ours when sat in the garden, kind of thought it went without saying as was Tongue in cheek comment.
Surf-mat you really just not worth discussing things with at times.
Primates traditionally sleep in family groups it's only ('first world') humans who insist on the little blighters being in a separate room for sleep within hours of birth.
Most of us have evolved significantly though.
Not sure about everyone on this forum though. 😉
I am not sure what kind of sound a baby would make that would be both important and inaudible from another room in a normal sized house...?
Drac - nor are you.
That's settled that then.
Primates traditionally sleep in family groups it's only ('first world') humans who insist on the little blighters being in a separate room for sleep within hours of birth.
So what you saying is we should all sleep in the same room forever?
Cant think of any instance a monitor would have made a jot of difference for me with my two.
If they were crying enough for me to hear them, they needed attention. If i couldnt hear them, they were ok. Worked ok most of the time. They are in a cot, how much trouble can a baby get into? I know some babies die from cot death etc, but considering how little we know about it its something i dont think a monitor will make any difference about.
I am a believer in routine and sleeping seperately. Have seen some right klingons from parents who dont encourage them to sleep in their own rooms.
No, Drac, but I do think that if you believe your child is incapable of sleeping in a separate room without some form of external monitoring then it might be too early to try and make them do so.
There are clearly some families with a history of SIDS etc where external monitoring is both advised and necessary, I'm talking about your standard 'sleeps like a log, then wakes up and screams the house down' type child.
So what you saying is we should all sleep in the same room forever?
And sleep in our own faeces, pick nits from each other's hair and have sex with any female of child-bearing age without issue.
Actually, now I think about it....
No, Drac, but I do think that if you believe your child is incapable of sleeping in a separate room without some form of external monitoring then it might be too early to try and make them do so.
Not the same at all then and again that depends on the parents choice, babies health and as mentioned house layout. It's really not an essential thing but adds peace of mind and as MF others have said allows you some flexibilty such as sitting the garden. Even if you continue to share a room do you then say you can't leave them in a room on there own as it's not safe yet, so then can't go out in your garden.
I said earlier I didn't think agreement would be reached on this.
My personal experience with my children was that in both cases there was nothing to be gained by using a monitor in terms of not being in the room but still finding out they needed attention.
Other peoples experience, house layout or just fears may dictate a different approach if it works for them then that's fine.
At the end of the day almost every single thing we ever buy for ourselves and our children is not necessary but we live in a (some say) civilised society and some of us choose to have things that make our lives easier. Be it a potato peeler, a bike, a sofa or whatever.
Then there are others that tell us that we don't need X, we only need Y because of Z.
Going into the garden and leaving a baby alone in the house, are you lot related to the Mccanns?
I use mine so the little one can sleep in her seat in the living room and I can fettle bikes in the garage. I am but 15 feet from her, but closed doors and walls mean I'd not hear anything. I'm not a bad parent, I'm not substituting my attentions with electronice - I'm just using technology to improve quality of life.
All the regressing primates can smash the spinning jenny and live in caves - I like technology.
Going into the garden and leaving a baby alone in the house, are you lot related to the Mccanns?
What an utterly retarded comment.
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Are you serious? Crikey we were borderline abusive then. We used to leave our kids asleep in their pram outside whilst we went inside for a coffee and a chill out. Once asleep from a walk it seemed a shame to wake them taking them into the house and they seemed to like the 'outside' noise.
We did keep checks on them every so often and never left them out in the rain for too long 😉
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Useful items in some cases then but not essential parenting equipment.
Best thing is to have the kid first, then decide what you need and go and get it then. Saves a lot of money that does.
Best thing is to have the kid first, then decide what you need and go and get it then. Saves a lot of money that does.
100% agree with that.
Best thing is to have the kid first, then decide what you need and go and get it then. Saves a lot of money that does.
Yeah right - and we're all reasonable and rational and brave when we're out of earshot of the wife! We have no choice in these matters - she decides and anyone that says otherwise is a damned liar!
We’ve not bought one. It’ll be in with us for a good while so don’t see the point. May buy one when it goes into own room, may not – probably not as our upstairs is not large and our downstairs is all open plan, so I think we’ll be able to hear anything anyway. Having said that, if you want one, buy one!
We have no choice in these matters
Speak for yourself!
We have no choice in these matters - she decides and anyone that says otherwise is a damned liar!
Riiiiight!
We have no choice in these matters - she decides and anyone that says otherwise is a damned liar!
some of us are still reasonable human beings. Even if I did cry in mothercare last week. 😆
My view is that what my wife is happiest with I am happiest with. She had to carry them for 9 months and go through the [s]pain [/s] miracle of childbirth and I appreciate that understanding her maternal instincts and protectiveness over the girls should be my main concern and I should support her decisions as best I can.
[i]Even if I did cry in mothercare last week[/i]
I wouldn't worry about that - it often reduced me to tears as well...
M-F - you are redlining on the STW slushy puke-o-meter now.
Please cease.
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Just telling it like I see it as a parent and husband though. (She may have a different view on how much of a help and support I am though)...
She had to carry them for 9 months and go through the pain miracle of childbirth
But we have to put up with 9 months of ****ing moaning about it.
Not my wife - Her first baby came out sideways, she didn't scream or nothin.
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Sensitivity and volume are 2 very different things.
As an example, if you are a very deep sleeper and it takes an earthquake to wake you (not likely if new have a new born in the house!) you can leave the volume on max so the monitor will be very loud.
However you can actually turn the sensitivity down so that only loud crying would register on the monitor.
We still use ours at night, but to be honest because we have turned the sensitivty down, I hear him before the monitor goes off. It was helpful after he had been projectile vomiting all evening, we put him to bed on full sensitivity so we could here if he was being sick.
Mastiles - if you have a heart monitor thing, have you actually done the first aid to know what to do if things did go wrong?
You have obviously done alot of reading up and thinking about it m_f as you are fairly new to the whole game no?
Mastiles - if you have a heart monitor thing, have you actually done the first aid to know what to do if things did go wrong?
Yes - we were shown how in a class at the SCBU the girls spent their first week of life in. And my wife is a registered St John's Ambulance first aider too.
You have obviously done alot of reading up and thinking about it m_f as you are fairly new to the whole game no?
The girls are 13 months now and I have been subjected to lots of learning in that time....
As the op that started this thread (my first ever thread to reach two pages!) can I bring it back on track?
We are going to buy one, we want one, no arguments on that. However we do think that a video one would stop us reacting and going into the nursery when the baby is just grumbling in his / her sleep as opposed to actually needing us. This might be overkill so we'd consider a voice only one.
Any recommedations of either?
Whatever you get, get digital (not analogue) for far better quality and much less annoying hiss. There are a huge range of features available such as nightlight, temperature, lullabies etc so choose one that suits your needs - ie don't spend extra to get one that plays lullabies if you don't plan on using it for that function.
Also, if you live in a built up area you might want to consider one with a choice of channels in case someone closeby has something that interferes with the reception on your unit.
interference on the digital ones can be a problem, if the microwave (or the neighbours) is on then all you get is a screaming from the speaker and the wireless network makes it glitch as well, I spent a while changing frequencies on the router only for a neighbour to get one which causes interference.
The reciever now sits semi enclosed by tinfoil to shield it from next door.
if the microwave (or the neighbours) is on then all you get is a screaming from the speaker and the wireless network makes it glitch as well
Haven't found that at all on our one...
I love a good "high tech baby equipment with mastiles_fanylion" thread. 🙂
You soon learn what the different cries mean so video to tell what's up again is just an extra. No idea why you need a thermometer either.
Haven't found that at all on our one...
mine is from Aldi though 😆
As drac says you soon learn what different cries mean.
Babies cry when they want some thing thats how they communicate, I certainly doubt that junior would know to wave to the camera when they want your attention.
If you worry about everything you will end up shattered and ill.
