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Jesus, that's a bad tackle. Should have been a red without doubt, but I wonder if the ref contracts have something in them saying "thou shall not criticise other refs elst thou shalt be cast adrift". If so, then stupid man for tweeting what everyone else would be thinking.

However, seeing some refs constant bias / failure to ref certain parts of the game ( different from ref to ref) I do wonder what type of behind the scenes reviews actually happen.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:12 pm
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Its not really a slagging though is it more a statement of fact, its not personal


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:14 pm
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Tinybits my boss is on the 6N ref panel and was at the last World Cup they were all briefed on social media protocol. I'll find out what the craic is. They are all assessed at every match, TJ TMO and all


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:17 pm
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I agree totally AA but in his role he should have known better


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:18 pm
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I'm surprised at that, wonder why the inconsistencies then.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:18 pm
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Ok I'll try to explain this. The refs when employed by their unions have an obligation to not bring the union into disrepute. However at IRB contracted events like the World Cup and presumably HK 7's there is an obligation to not bring the IRB into disrepute. ie Don't criticise your refereeing panel team mates.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:46 pm
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Is George Ford off to Barth then? He's an excellent prospect-it's hard to care where Gavlaa winds up, he hardly plays and is pretty average these days.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 8:57 pm
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Ford is off to b***. Gav has been good when he's played, but that's not been often; started 6(?) games this season. I don't blame him being a bit gun shy, he's made of glass these days.
Whilst I'm no fan of their flanker skaysbrook, I'm hoping Exeter get the HC spot.


 
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Ford's a good prospect but really one of two things are going to happen. He'll either become the 'flair' flyhalf and play against teams that have been worn down by faz, or he'll be on the bench for the rest of his natural if faz learns to run and pass. Either way, a rubbish player to pay high wages for as a club player.


 
Posted : 22/04/2013 9:16 pm
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A-A,thoughts on Watkins are as been pointed out. There are very strict lets call them guidelines, on social media. Watkins had a really high profile,so is a sacrificial lamb so all the rest of the refs take the hint.


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 6:09 am
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Those arent your thoughts they are a summary of what happend 😆


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 8:02 am
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The WRU is becoming like the bloody mafia, they really get my goat these days. The epitome of the words self serving.


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 8:04 am
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Thats a good point A-A,and it was subconscious. Fact is that I knocked reffing every week on the head this year. The realisation that a) 3/4 games a season of 5th official/running touch in the Rabo was as far as I was going to get. b)After teaching all week, who needs to spend all day Sat driving down to a Borders town to have somebody refuse to shake your hand after a game? c) My eldest is getting into the hills etc and I would rather be with him.
So now I ref local schools and u18's every couple of weeks, but still have the conditioning to have no real(negative) opinion of another official. It is truly thankless,even at the level he moved in.


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 9:22 am
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Fair points Duckman, shame you get people who are arses to ref.
Seems Wigan have confirmed Powell is off to do some ground shagging.


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 7:21 pm
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'ground shagging' 😆

Right, less than a week to go.....one name, who will be lions captain?

My choice: A W Jones


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 8:04 pm
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Bookies are usually right so Warburton it is.
My choice would be Adam Jones who I love almost as much as Gav.


 
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POC


 
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I'd have gone for Adam jones too.


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 9:47 pm
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Lions captain: AWJ.


 
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Lions captain: AWJ.

I was saying this years ago. I still say it.

A fine player, and deserving of the spot. POC may well push him hard on current form, though! Either way, those two at 4 and 5? Yes, please!


 
Posted : 23/04/2013 10:25 pm
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The bookies have [s]two[/s] three players now odds on, so even they're hedging a bit. Truth is , they haven't a clue 'cos every bit of info contradicts another.
I know it's been a while since your post, but Ryan Jones (!!??) is now the current favourite at 3/16 for captain.
But weirdly, he's still only 4/1 to start.


 
Posted : 24/04/2013 12:12 am
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Another vote for AWJ. About time the Welsh got a shot anyway.

Retiring hero! Off to start his own plumbing business. "It's all pipes and leaks, so I have kept my hand in"


 
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Posted : 25/04/2013 8:11 am
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What a tit! Why are Sale out doing pub crawls during the season though ffs!


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 11:02 am
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He was obviously hammered, he has spent all season avoiding contact with fast moving objects (centres,No8's etc etc)

IGMC


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 11:18 am
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Sooner he ***** off the better as far as I'm concerned!
As to the rest of the squad, shows why we are so bloody crap! 🙁


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 11:20 am
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@duckman no need to get your coat, it's been more than just this year, his defensive frailties were a major issue in Australia.


 
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As I posted before Warburton as captain for me. Adam Jones is a great player and a first XV choice but I'm not sure he's going to last the the tour physically so not a captain. POC himself says his main argument is "I'm fresh" but he's a big risk fitness wise too, too much to make him captain.


 
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I cannot think of a single reason for appointing Warburton as captain. He was dropped as captain of wales due to poor performances, and isn't (certainly shouldn't be) nailed on for a start. Lydiate is more talented and Robshaw more consistent. Out of his last 8-10 international games, he played well for about 3. It would be a massive shame if he gets it (which he probably will) over someone far more deserving.


 
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To be fair Warburton has come right back to form hasn't he? A consistent player isn't good enough for the Lions test team.


 
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......neither is an inconsistent one. And, in all fairness Robshaw offers a lot more than consistency (not that I'm offering him us as capt).


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 12:16 pm
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Hasn't Warburton's inconsistency largely to do with coming back from injury though?


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 12:26 pm
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Perhaps, but you have to question the management if they're playing an injured player when other high quality options are available.
Googling "warburton injury" gives results with a lot of different dates. It seems he's a bit fragile.
He's a damn fine player on his day, but those days aren't often enough for me. Not with so many very, very good alternatives.


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 12:38 pm
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Pub crawl a couple of days before a game ? WTF.


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 12:49 pm
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Warburton hardly ever finishes a game or plays two in a row. However his best is much better than Robshaw at 6 or 7. Adam is much more resistant so not sure i understand the comments above.


 
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However his best is much better than Robshaw at 6 or 7.

We'll have to agree to disagree there. Perhaps his best is better at 7, but at 6? Absolutely no chance whatsoever.


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 1:00 pm
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No way on this earth is hovis better at 6 than Robshaw! Robshaw was one of the players of the tournament in the 6n's....Warburton had one great game. Robshaw is very short of form atm though..


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 1:05 pm
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Warburton is far better hence wales smashing england senseless a few weeks ago have you forgotten about that. Robshaw was a real weak link in defence in that game. Roberts was running over him for fun.


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 1:07 pm
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Robshaw played 7 all six nations, he's not a real 6 😀


 
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I remember that game, and the 7 games preceding it where Warburton was a liability (and got dropped and stripped of his captaincy) and wales got smashed by Samoa (amongst others) whilst Robshaw was on fire and England beat the All Blacks (and Ireland).


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 1:11 pm
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got dropped

Got injured actually.

wales got smashed by Samoa (amongst others)

he only played the last 9 mins so I'm not sure we can blame him for that. He did play in the narrow defeat by Aus, who incidently munched england where robshaw got taken to the cleaners by Hooper. More you think about it the more you start to wonder how the norro virus may have helped england.

Could you give me examples of how warburton was a liability in the games wales lost as his play was by no means the reason. Cpataincy could be questioned but the reason for Wales losing was more to do with injuries to others especially Adam Jones and a confidence shot 10.
Do you not remember how england were utterly and completely destroyed in every department by wales?


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 1:50 pm
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Do you not remember how england were utterly and completely destroyed in every department by wales?

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Were they? proof please or it didn't happen 😈 😈

Edit, I am kidding!


 
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Do you not remember how england were utterly and completely destroyed in every department by wales?

Yes, I do. I also remember;

wales got smashed by Samoa (amongst others)

More you think about it the more you start to wonder how the norro virus may have helped england.

That's tired, even the ABs admit that wasn't the case.

How long has it been since wales beat australia again? where is the tour?


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 1:57 pm
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some proof, first the build up to wales second try note the ineffectual 7
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then a few missed tackles
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and thats before we even consider the scrums


 
Posted : 25/04/2013 2:00 pm
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only got till next tuesday to play this game boys, dont give up too easily 😆


 
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