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Sexton is excellent IMO Wrecker....I was very impressed with his club form in the games that I saw him early season.

St Jonny is a little inconsistent nowadays-he was dire in the two games that I've seen him play this year. Still the greatest ever kicker though 8)


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 3:02 pm
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I'm not sure Farrel is any better than Biggar tbh. Sexton is very good. To think of St Johnny as world class is to ignore the evidence. He wasnt even the best ten in "that" world cup final. If Farrel Biggar Sexton or Flood get broken then we might start thinking of St Johnny even then theres Hook or if Priestland come thru a few games and is on tour in Japan he might be a better option.


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 4:47 pm
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I'd put Farrell ahead of Bigger, I also thought that Johnny had a pretty decent game in the rwc final 2003 😕


 
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Farrell? I'd put Jackson ahead of biggar. And fwiw, st jonny proved himself the better fly half in that final. To deny this is to ignore the evidence 😛


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 5:07 pm
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I think Sexton will start; to use a Scottish rugby supporters mindset (esp on backs the last few years) [b]"You can only pish wi the cock yiv got."[/b] Sexton is the best Lions 10 just now, I like JW, he had balls the size of watermelons in the WC final, but he has not been that good this year (I watch the French games) I also felt he played too far back as he could not play on the gain line as well as some and that has been more apparent this year. Farrel? Maybe next time, I only think he justified claims for his inclusion in one 6n game.


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 5:09 pm
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Ian Madigigan
After Sexton, the next best fly half in Europe at the mo.
On for the golden boot and top point scorer in the Rabo, but not even really a "kicking" 10.
Scores tries and beats players, could do with a bit more work on his defence.
Would be perfectly suited to Oz conditions. And a brilliant alternative to Farrell.


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 6:05 pm
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And fwiw, st jonny proved himself the better fly half in that final

Better than Larkham, now THAT IS funny 😆
Jackson is shite and couldnt get in the Glasgow team ahead of that midget bloke (who I hope is better today than he looked yesterday looked a nasty injury).


 
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Jackson is shite

I think you overestimate biggar 😆


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 6:14 pm
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Biggar looked ok murderating the all black beaters! Farrel on the otherhand cracked under the pressure. Biggar is an OK ish international ten. Madigan is a good shout but ireland holding on O'Speedbump Gara my have ruined his chances he is still very raw at international level.


 
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Jackson showing total commitment to the cause
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Posted : 20/04/2013 6:40 pm
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Vernon coming home, one of the ones Sale should have kept.


 
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With the new SRU set up i was pretty certain Vernon would head back to Scotland, can't blame the lad. Glad that useless lump Gray/Grey (can never remember the spelling) is going though, he's been taking the piss all season long. Perhaps now we aren't paying for him to amble around picking daisies then we can afford to get someone who actually wants to work for his money!


 
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How did biggar do against the ABs? Or even Ireland, aus, Samoa for that matter?


 
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Bloody Hell, how can we beat Glos last week then turn in a performance like this today?

Being a Sale fan is probably the most frustrating experience in Rugby!


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 7:27 pm
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How did biggar do against the ABs? Or even Ireland, aus, Samoa for that matter?

I'm struggling to remember if he started (or even was on the bench for) any of those games....... Samoa one he started against Samoa and this happend early on [img] [/img] and then he played no further part in the Autumn games though. I suppose a 6 Nations winners medal will do im for now.


 
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I suppose a 6 Nations winners medal will do im for now.

And so it should. I'm sure jonny is happy with his, along with his world champion medal...... 🙂

That hit looks like being hit by a car. Rather him than me!

Anyone see youngs 80m try today? Caught b*** napping and turned the FB inside out (ok. It was a bit too easy) good watching though!


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 8:12 pm
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Christ knows what is going on with Sale! Glad that Richie is ****ing off-waste off time and money.


 
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That hit looks like being hit by a car. Rather him than me!

not half as bad as this one:

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or this which is another all time favourite
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Bloody Hell, how can we beat Glos last week then turn in a performance like this today?

Last week was even more one sided than today! I watched a time lapse film of the South stand and Gloucester threatened our 22 so rarely it was hard to tell there was a game on!
A strange squad this afternoon it can only mean Dimes is targeting next week for a big finale. Shame we couldnt target both.


 
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Great win today, glos backs did well and the back row. Not a big fan of Goode but impressive today apart from a feeble tackle


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 9:57 pm
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we can afford to get someone who actually wants to work for his money!

Err yeah, that would be Vernon... 😈
Sale turned in the worst display I have seen in the prem today, they were awful,weak side or not. I realise you and Surfer are seeing this year as some sort of a blip, but can today be better than whoever gets promoted? Diamond has to go, he has a look of confusion every time his team is losing.


 
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Sale have been terrible since St Andre left, its not a blip.


 
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Bristol beat Newcastle today. Ended their undefeated run in the last game of the season 😆
Not enough for a play off place ( awful start to the season) but to be honest falcons deserve promotion. Lots of new signings, I think ol' bris will be going up very soon.


 
Posted : 20/04/2013 11:33 pm
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So can we start picking Lions squads yet?

1/2p, Hogg, Goode (covers 10 also as Gatland has hinted he will only take two tens)
Cuthbert, North, Maitland, Gilroy
BOD, Tuilagi, Davies, Roberts
Sexton, Farrel
Phillips, Youngs
Faletau, Morgan
Warburton, Tipuric
Robshaw, Lydiate
POC, Grey, Parling, AW Jones
Adam, Cole, ?
Best, Hibbard, Youngs
Healey, Gethin, Vunipola (Corbisero is back playing I see, any form?)


 
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Morgan? Is Beattie injured?


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 8:24 am
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So can we start picking Lions squads yet?

1/2p, Hogg, Goode (covers 10 also as Gatland has hinted he will only take two tens)
Cuthbert, North, Maitland, Gilroy
BOD, Tuilagi, Davies, Roberts
Sexton, Farrel
Phillips, Youngs
Faletau, Morgan
Warburton, Tipuric
Robshaw, Lydiate
POC, Grey, Parling, AW Jones
Adam, Cole, ?
Best, Hibbard, Youngs
Healey, Gethin, Vunipola (Corbisero is back playing I see, any form?)

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Posted : 21/04/2013 8:57 am
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Grey doesn't warrant a spot either.


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 9:03 am
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What starting 15 for the tests from that squad?


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 9:25 am
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Is Beattie injured?

No but he was fumble tastic at times in the six nations, blows hot and cold too much. He was excellent v england and poor v wales and france.
On reflection the scottish god botherer might go as an extra tighthead.
What would you pick Ioum? I thought about SOB but I dont think he is better than any of the backrow options in any of the positions, would be an excellent bench option though. Gatland does favour the tackling machine at 6 so I reckon he'll gamble on Lydiate and if not Robshaw is the next best option.

What starting 15 for the tests from that squad?

not a clue tbh, if pressed

Hogg
1/2p
Tuilagi
Bod
North
Sexton
Phillips
Faletau
Warburton
Robshaw
POC
AW Jones
Adam
Best
Healey


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 9:27 am
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I reckon Ricardt Strauss may go as a hooker too.


 
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Whilst you may be right about Beattie, at least he can play 90 minutes. I hoped glaws were going to thrash Morgan into shape.......
Grey has been poor for club and country recently. I'd take Hamilton.
I'm just as interested in the England tour, there are some exciting players coming through. I reckon we'll see Eastman and Biggs (both b*** players), jonny may, Burrell, slater, tomkins, billy v. These guys need to be progressed sooner rather than later.


 
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Can't see Lydiate touring, Kelly Brown could be a surprise pick?


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 9:43 am
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Murray, big yes.
Strauss, maybe - needs a very good end to the season in some finals. Would have been more sure if he hadn't been injured.
Shame the other hookers wouldn't make the pub darts team.

Think so far with Wales back row, Gatland's been "pissing with the cock he's got".
He knows, and results prove, its not enough to beat the ozzies. That's were he'll need to bring in more threat in attack.


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 9:56 am
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He knows, and results prove, its not enough to beat the ozzies. That's were he'll need to bring in more threat in attack.

back row is only as good as the pack. Who should we add? I'd go robshaw warbs faletau. Not sure the lions have better options


 
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@anagallis is back trolling again I see

JW made decision to go to France as he knew he wouldn't make the 2015 World Cup and the English clubs were made subject to a salary cap. He was very very good against Leicester in all facets of the game and it will be interesting to watch him at Twickenham next weekend.

As for taking two number 10's that's daft as its so easy to have players injured on this tour, the Aussies have history of targeting important players in the tour warm up games.


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 10:31 am
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Galand is on record as saying he is considering just two tens as otherwise they will all need to be given chances and would then be under cooked come test time so take it up with him.
As for the idea its trolling to suggest someone who hasnt played international rugby in years and wasnt very good when he last did shouldnt go on a lions tour well my gaster is flabbered.
A lot of people happy to criticise but few happy to suggest alternatives.


 
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The lack of alternatives is rather the point!
Bigger and laidlaw (or whoever the current fancied scots offering) are borderline internationals. Goode isn't that good at 15, Nevermind 10.


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 11:26 am
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Laidlaw looked long term broken on friday.
I would have picked Hook over Goode but didnt want to look pro Wales 😆

Wilkinson would offer nothing more than Biggar imo and would be a bigger gamble. Wilkinson always looked good given an armchair ride I have seen nothing to change that opinion.


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 11:30 am
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I'd prefer Flood to Wilkinson


 
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I'd prefer Flood to Wilkinson

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The words "and Toby Flood is coming on" are enough to strike fear into most English rugby supporters' hearts!

But.... Pretty stoked to find out that we'll be getting the Lions tour live on free-to-air here in Oz. Was expecting it to be buried on Foxtel somewhere. I'm still baffled by the almost total lack of coverage of the Wallabies here though - it's almost as if they're another country's team!


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 1:30 pm
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I would pick Beattie over Morgan and think Gray will miss the plane. If it was NZ I would be with wrecker on Hamilton, but he suits a tight game where the ball is coming back close to the forwards (ie the one the play cos we have nae backs.) It isn't going to be that kind of series,which is a pity cos Hamilton is a monster!


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 2:56 pm
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Hamilton blotted his copy book with that pen v wales just before half time. Maybe Launchbury should go but he was piss poor v wales. D Ryan seems a complete non impact player for ireland.. good angry face and nowt else. Ian Evans is a bit slow as his knees are ****ed, Hows Courtney Lawes doing?


 
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Lawes is shit.


 
Posted : 21/04/2013 3:31 pm
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MOTM yesterday Tom,but can't call t lineout,we will need somebody who can.


 
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