Enjoyed every minute of that . Good rugby from both sides.
aggressive and clinical by England, Scotland were always on the back foot
Two results I didn't want, pah!
Two results I didn't want, pah!
Quite the opposite here. Very happy.
Excellent game. Get rid of Brown, Goode and the Young's brothers and we'll be looking good!
Agreed care was outstanding.
Lose Brown +1
Looked like he was on the back foot the whole game, just not up to the pace of the attacking moves.
I don't understand all this 'get rid of brown'- he makes loads of yards every game that he plays. Solid under the high ball, elusive, breaks tackles. Surely that's what you want from a wing/full back!? And Ben Youngs threatens opposition forwards everytime, drawing them in which creates space out wide
I'd want it from a full back-I'd like a winger to beat at least one defender in a game.
In terms of the 6N Ireland have the big teams at home and are away to the third tier nations so I think we will do very well. We are starting to get a good mix of youth coming through to blend with the experience and BOD is back which always gives the squad a lift. If we start with a win in Cardiff, a game we should win easily, then I think we can win the tournament overall.
Well I got the first bit right!!
Turnovers, penalties and inability to keep posession killed Scotland, ****in poor basics as usual.
I am not a robshaw fan at all but thought he played very well as did l'berry, beattie and hogg for scotland, zebo and bod for Ireland, 1/2p looks the pick of the Welsh.
Some poor ref'ing in both matches which takes the shine off a good day of rugby.
Think a few alledged lions need some very big games rest of 6n. Warburton and obrien were pretty poor, gray not great either.
I'm sure there was a stat that showed Brown had made twice the yards with the ball than anyone else at one stage. I thought he was excellent today. Goode looked sluggish (still feeling his injury?) though and not great under the high ball. Also with Twelvetrees in the side his creativity and distribution isn't needed as much. Brown to fullback for next week with Foden on the wing. I'd stick with Twelvetrees and bring Tuilagi in for Barritt.
I'd do much the same semuc....
Warburton is really looking poor isn't he. Has form is one thing, but he is really becoming a shrinking violet too and not giving any leadership. Gray was very poor today-he's in every maul, but doesn't really do a lot when he's there. Is he fit though?
Same team different bench. Although thought Haskell was good at 8.
Scrummaging is becoming less important as fewer scrums these days. Think there were only a handful in the Wales game
Yeah I thought Haskell was good. Whatever happened to 'brand Haskell'?
Edit, although he replaced Morgan didn't he go to blindside with Wood at 8?
Yes he did but thought he had a good game.
Team of the day
Halfpenny
Ashton
Bod
Twelvetrees
Zebo
Sexton
Care
Healy
Best
Cole
Parling
Launchbury
Wood
Tipuric
Faletau
I'd have Morgan in for Faletau and Donecha Ryan in for Wood. Other than that I'd agree.
Now dont jump on my one eyedness but 😆 I thought England looked a bit toothless in the backs. Back three especially with all that great ball from a stunning forward display they should have done more. Ashton started well looking for work but then faded out of it and isnt much good in traditional backline play anyway. Brown and Goode ran about a lot but didnt threaten much. Strettle looked better when he came on. 12 trees was the best back so why the **** they took him off god knows. Replacing Barritt with Tuilagi will help but an on form Foden, Strettle and Stroppy Armitage would improve England imo.
Spot on a_a. *goes for a lie down*
Now dont jump on my one eyednes
you're nothing if not consistent...
Morgan for Faletau... Do behave standing back and fielding kicks whilst playing behind a pack monstering the opposition is easy. Faletau was a tackling, rucking and carrying machine today. I'd put Hogg to 15 and shift 1/2p to 14 other than that not a lot to argue with. Thought Wood was very good.
I also though Beattie was the better 8 at twickers.
Launchbury and twelvetrees looked pretty good today and will probably start next game !!
lawes looks even bigger and in better shape than ever!!
Haskell always makes a difference when he comes on the pitch, brings a different dynamic to the game.
England are looking good this 6n
AA I'm glad you're not a selector.
Strettle touched the ball once, Brown made more yards than anyone and broke the gain line a fair few times.
Not sure that I'd have Morgan, always looks lumbering to me, but on that performance would have to try to squeeze Farrell and Robshaw in. And as much as I like halfpenny Hogg played very well this week.
strettle looked slow !
Surely you have to break the gainline to make yards? Brown is no threat on the wing and Goode wasnt much of a threat at 15. Foden is a much better player than both. As is Armitage when he's not cheapshotting someone ( he's banned currently isnt he?).
Debate on gwlad currently on how long Tips will be banned for.
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Grabbed fleeting opportunities to watch here and there, England backs never really seemed to get into gear, receiving good ball flat footed - couple of good runs but nothing like the ones against the Kiwis - was it like this all through?
I'm not sure how you blokes want England to play. Played in a very different style hardly any kicking and at times they didn't click but still looked like it was an improved performance. They did lots of things really well and some not so well.
Definitely a change in style and direction, they've moved forward and are continuing to develop.
Surely you have to break the gainline to make yards?
This +many. You can quote the beeb stats all you like, but Brown repeatedly getting the ball 20 yards away from a defender then running straight at him is hardly ground breaking stuff.
a_a Morgan broke the Scottish line numerous times, is excellent under a high ball and with ball in hand. He may not be the tackler that Faletau is, but 'standing behind the backs fielding kicks'?! behave 🙂
I appear to have watched a totally different game to you lot. And I watched it twice!
I agree that they kicked less Bear (are you a real Bear? :-))
Farrell had the best passing game he's ever had in an England shirt. I just thought that for all the possession and territoy we had, we didn't really look that composed at the back especially the back 3.
Maybe but that comes from a new style of play. If I had a criticism it would be our kick chase and our chase backs. Seemed a bit laboured and not enough support.
Wath the ab the back three will chase back in a line whichever side collects the ball two passes to other side and either attack or kick return into space.
Grrrrrrr yes I am a real bear!
"Receiving good ball flat footed" - exactly how I saw it , especially Brown. Did any of the yards he made result in anything exciting? No .
IMO England played well but did miss the edge they displayed when the beat the All Blacks because the did not see Scotland as a real threat and played accordingly .
Sickening arrogance!
Faletau 19 carries ( top for wales) 11 tackles (also top) with none missed.
Morgan 7 carries and three tackles.
Isn't that a reflection on how the teams play, how the opposition play?
If the move called is not your carry you will miss out. Wales v Ireland was like two different games with each team on top for a whole half, so one half he did a lot of defending, one a lot of tackling?
Some of Morgans 7 carries made good yards too.
Mind you I think Faletau is a better player.
Sickening arrogance!
😆 / 🙄
Sickening arrogance!
Sums you up nicely Herr zokes 😉
Morgan and Faletau play very dufferernt roles. Morgan fields a lot of kicks so can make eye catching runs Faletau spends more time carrying in traffic and tackling. Morgan is nowhere near his level.
Well, I'm happy if my non-arrogance makes you sick, piggy.
Just think how sickened you'd be if I tried 🙂
But does that mean he reads the game well and puts himself in the right place?
Or that England play a different system so that is his role.
It is all about doing your job within the structure that you want to play, although you can only play the type of game that the players you have at your disposal can adapt to.
Just seen a stat which said England made 19 off loads and 11 line breaks. They didn't manage that all tournament not so long ago.
Not sure you can accuse the current crop of arrogance, but they did take their foot off once or twice. No different to Ireland though and don't hear them being called arrogant.
