[Closed] Wills and Kate

rather than voting in puppets who lie in the run up to an election, only to renege on their promises, we could disband parliament, retaining the civil service to suggest changes which we the populace could then vote on in direct referendums.

This would remove much of the lobbying and corruption which occurs behind closed doors, and free up a good few fat expenses claims.

It's a crazy world. Silver spoon in hand...

I thought having royals is part of your British culture.

I'm all for a republic but people are sheep and need sone control like religion to
control them.

Still Kate did well to keep her figure after the pregnancy.

More fuel for the 'Why the hell was the heir to the throne so pally with a man known to have a number of perverse habits' fire I'm afraid, along with the explosive 'how in the hell did they allow a knighthood?'

So what are you [i]actually[/i] trying to say ?

If you've got a point to make, make it, just say what you think. Don't hide behind weak insinuations.

Sounds shit to be fair.

So, have you got any better ideas?

Is that why we're still in the EU?

Yes.

In France, our affairs are currently being managed by someone that even the majority of those voted who for him don't want and a another guy that isn't wanted by a significant part of his own party. It would be interesting to draw some Venn diagrams and work out how many people support both of them. Less than one in five I suspect. They were voted in on a left-wing manifesto and their policies are more right wing than the right they replaced. I'll still go and vote next time though, even if no legislative election has ever been won by one vote.

Don't hide behind weak insinuations.

and have the entire world run on the basis of who gets the most likes on facebook.
Run a few sob stories (all made up of course) in the run up to a vote, pay for massive tv ads, billboards, summarise it in a way that people with the attention span of 3s can understand (well tell them how to think anyway) and boom off you go, wall to wall vote for this vote for that.

Is that the current system you're describing?

Certainly, there are pitfalls which would have to be ironed out, but overall, it would lead to a fairer system, with less smoke, mirrors and funny handshakes.

So what are you actually trying to say ?

If you've got a point to make, make it, just say what you think. Don't hide behind weak insinuations.

There is compelling evidence to suggest there was a far wider network of paedophiles and abusers operating nationwide and perhaps even further afield, utilizing care homes and hospitals to source their prey; the full scale and involvement of this is gut wrenching; there is multiple accounts of the security services involvement as a means of blackmail and coercion to manipulate the perverted powermongers.

[url= https://soundcloud.com/gypsumfantastic23/ken-mi5 ]
https://soundcloud.com/gypsumfantastic23/ken-mi5 [/url]

Perhaps you think that is acceptable?

There is compelling evidence to suggest there was a far wider network of paedophiles and abusers operating nationwide and perhaps even further afield,

And what does that have to do with Prince Charles ?

Is that the current system you're describing?

Of course once everyone has had their say, put up amendments, asked questions, requested clarification etc. there would be about 1 decision every couple of years.

And what does that have to do with Prince Charles ?

You tell me... there are plenty of avenues of research on this here interwebz

Of course once everyone has had their say, put up amendments, asked questions, requested clarification etc. there would be about 1 decision every couple of years.

Is that the current system you're describing?

And what does that have to do with Prince Charles ?
You tell me... there are plenty of avenues of research on this here interwebz

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So you haven't got the conviction to actually say what you are insinuating then ?

Thought not.

Is that the current system you're describing?

Enjoy the world you live in, let us all know when you pop back to planet earth, I'd say we have some nice bridges to hide under but I don't think your trolling just living in a special place.

I was feeling so oppressed today that I went for a ride.

I'm about to rally against my Royal oppressors and ride to the Devil's Punchbowl. Power to the people!

[quote=CaptainFlashheart ]I was feeling so oppressed today that I went for a ride.

Have the plebs trespassed on your private estate?

So you haven't got the conviction to actually say what you are insinuating then ?

Thought not.

Am I to take it you are a paragon of saying what you mean and delivering the goods?

I'm glossing away my oppression today.

Am I to take it you are a paragon of saying what you mean and delivering the goods?

Attacking him wont hide the fact you wont say what you really mean.

Still no one prepared to suggest why the idea of a royal family is a good one nor able to defend Charlies letters to ministers? Poor effort.

No oppression for me. I am not one of these "subjects" of which many speak. I'm a citizen of a republic. 🙂

Am I to take it you are a paragon of saying what you mean and delivering the goods?

If you like.

You are a coward who makes pathetic snidey insinuations but doesn't have the evidence or the balls to actually [b]say[/b] anything.

How's that for "saying what you mean and delivering the goods"

Over paid, over here and over sexxed

A/The Royal Family.
Part of a historical system that still exists. A system that is in place in a lot of countries around the world.
Good Points
Tourism
No need for a president
Nice non political place to entertain foreign dignitaries regardless of what is going on
A nice focal point for the masses
We already have the song
they are good at handing out trophies
it really gets up people noses

Bad Points
Cost

If they were touring the land ordering summary beatings and executions then it might be worse.

[s]Over paid[/s], over here and [s]over sexxed[/s]

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Of course once everyone has had their say, put up amendments, asked questions, requested clarification etc. there would be about 1 decision every couple of years.

Given the performances of both the UK and Australian governments, that sounds like an ideal solution!

If you like.

You are a coward who makes pathetic snidey insinuations but doesn't have the evidence or the balls to actually say anything.

How's that for "saying what you mean and delivering the goods"

So why is it you've failed to answer my questions?

for example...

There is compelling evidence to suggest there was a far wider network of paedophiles and abusers operating nationwide and perhaps even further afield, utilizing care homes and hospitals to source their prey; the full scale and involvement of this is gut wrenching; there is multiple accounts of the security services involvement as a means of blackmail and coercion to manipulate the perverted powermongers.

https://soundcloud.com/gypsumfantastic23/ken-mi5

Perhaps you think that is acceptable?

So yep, I'm happy to put it out there that people with far more wealth and influence than me have been up to some dark and nasty shit, whilst they have the technology to retrieve all the information they like about me through a public funded surveillance network...

At the very least, Big ears, Mother and much of the family knew what old Jimmy the beast was up to and withheld it from the public gaze, much like they and their agents are currently doing with any inconvenient information that comes to light in the aftermath.

Now who's the coward?

Put your prosthetic danglies away and show you mean business ya numpty...

maybe even bring some of your own material to the debate rather than criticizing others

At the very least, Big ears, Mother and much of the family knew what old Jimmy the beast was up to and withheld it from the public gaze, much like they and their agents are currently doing with any inconvenient information that comes to light in the aftermath.

So you reckon they all sat round had a cup of tea had it off with some servant wenches and agreed not to tell anyone?

You leave my family tree out of this 😀

CaptainFlashheart - Member
I was feeling so oppressed today that I went for a ride.

Do you want to be called Loretta ?

well that makes as much sense as your other posts, and as for bringing our own material to the table, it's very hard to prove that something didn't happen or that there is no conspiracy to someone who believes completely that it's true. Once a conspiracy is declared it's almost impossible to get rid of no matter how much fact or evidence is provided.

[i]Doing my best to ignore the nutter jivehoneyjive[/i]

Would Tourism be affected in any meaningful way? I doubt it and besides which when something is wrong its still wrong if someone us making a profit.
Would we need a president if we have a second chamber. We might find we gladhand less unpleasant people if someone is expecting to be elected after doing it maybe. Again its still wrong even if a big arms deal is relying on it.
Focal points for the masses argument is plain daft we would still have posh and becks or whoever.
and the song is shit but I suppose thats not their fault.
and the bad points go far beyond cost

At the very least, Big ears, Mother and much of the family knew what old Jimmy the beast was up to and withheld it from the public gaze,

I feel a bit silly asking really, but I don't suppose you have any proof of that do you.

Put your prosthetic danglies away and show you mean business ya numpty...

I've no idea what that's supposed to mean.

But as long as means something to you, that's all that matters.

I feel a bit silly asking really, but I don't suppose you have any proof of that do you.

Do you have any proof to the contrary?

I've provided many links in my posts which I can't help but feel you've completely ignored in your vigour to belittle my contribution...

anyhoo:

[quote> https://soundcloud.com/gypsumfantastic23/ken-mi5

Perhaps you think that is acceptable?

C'mon big baws, spit it out

I feel a bit silly asking really, but I don't suppose you have any proof of that do you.
Do you have any proof to the contrary?

your making some accusations based on some fairly tenuous info and drawing ridiculous conclusion from it.

Much the same as you are for your side of the argument... what makes your information any more valid than mine?

You have made a claim you need to prove it
that is how it works.

All the claims I've made I've proved, if you took the time to read the links provided, all the information is there; if you have any specific queries, fire away...

In the meantime, if you have any proof to categorically disprove any of what I've presented, please feel at leisure to do so 😉

Your job is done, jive, people have read your links and made up their own minds. You can move on to the next thread knowing your work here has been a success. I loved the Andrew article BTW.

Bad Points
Cost

/strolls in

WT actual F

\laughs and strolls out

Promotes the notion that some people are born better than others. Logical consequences: racism; slavery

Are you a real Doctor ?

No. I just play one on TV.

No. I just play one on TV.

Thank God for that then !

I'm a real Dr and I agre with him!

Worried that you might be sharing space with people who really do have a clue, cheekyboy?

The year we "celebrate" the start of WWI we should perhaps remember why it all kicked off.