[Closed] Why snow tyres are pointless

Yup. At commuting time if it snows you're goosed, snow tyres or not.

Not this again.

Ok that's it - the one definitive story that reflects every situation. Thanks for clearing that up 🙂

No-one else's experiences matter now.

I don't need Snow Tyres, or Winter Tyres, I've got a VOIP phone and an internet connection.

Snow tyres and snow socks will get you “out of trouble” in places where it matters - in the wilds, where not getting out might mean life getting a bit scary.

As soon as you hit “civilisation”, other traffic is likely to be in the way but it really doesn’t matter - you’re not exactly going to die from exposure sat in your car in the middle of Harrogate. (unless you can’t afford a cake, of course)

Rachel

Morale of the story: low.

Agree and disagree. My car in snow tyres would have got up that hill fine, by the looks of it. Relatively fresh snow, no icing all good. But yeah in traffic it's pointless as you get stuck behind the other people without snow tyres.

I don't need snow tyres, I'm a driving god.

Your eyesight must be excellent if you can spot snow tires on other vehicles whilst driving

How did you manage to notice what tyres people had whilst passing them on Norwood Edge?

Snow tyres? Are you getting confused with Winter Tyres?

Hooray , snow day stay at home. Give the people in this country day off and they go ****ing shopping.
A snow day is the only day families stick together and actually do something as a family.

Crappy snow socks have worked just fine so far.

I bet it was fun kneeling in a snowdrift fitting those snosox with juggernauts sliding around inches from your head...

If you had winter tyres you would not have needed 'crappy snow socks'.
Also better chance of steering and stopping in the snow with winter tyres as your snow socks are only on the rear.

and i can do 100mph in the snow on my winter tyres.... 😉

I've been cycling around towns on the MTB with very few cars around apart from the odd stuck one. I'd have been fine driving around on snow tyres.

There was also the time we might've got stuck in stuck traffic out in the hills except we were able to take a different route which was car-free. And the snow was gone by the time we got to lower elevations.

I don't need Snow Tyres, or Winter Tyres, I've got a [s]VOIP phone and an internet connection.[/s] mountain bike.

I've passed a few people with snow tyres struggling going up Norwood Edge

Don't forget that another consideration in driving is 'skill'. The best tyres in the world, when combined with shit driving, aren't going to do much for you.

I blame the parents,they failed to teach their children how to drive in the snow. 😉

Harrogate. (unless you can’t afford a cake, of course)

£15 for a 'open sandwich' in betty's. all open means is you get half the bread of a normal sandwich. £15!! 😯

was lovely though.

There's no way you'd be struggling to get up that with decent winter tyres with a bit of tread left. Did you stop and inspect the models used and how worn they were?

Tools for the job init.

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Who wants grip on the snow anyway? It's less fun. 🙂

That corner should be good fun in a rwd car in the snow.

Is that the actual A59 in your picture?

No Martin,I think that's in America.

Pretty sure it's [url= http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=421167&y=450816&z=120&sv=421167,450816&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=815&ax=421167&ay=450816&lm=0 ]here[/url]

Well, I've just abandoned my car four blocks from my house.

Road is gridlocked, there's a van in the middle of a mini-roundabout blocking the street in three directions and there's police everywhere. I hopped out of the car - with the handbrake on - to see if I could see what was going on and the movement was enough to break traction and it started sliding down the road! Managed to wrestle control back before it ploughed into a wall.

Yer, right.

Try my commute in your crappy-on-the-snow/ice RWD car, you wouldn't even get out of my drive.

And, I'll bet it's fun on a downhill trying to brake 😯

Pretty sure it's here

Ah, yes. Thought it was the little rise after Fewston reservoir for a moment.

How did you manage to notice what tyres people had whilst passing them on Norwood Edge?

Because I stopped and asked the person in the 4x4 who had skidded off the road if they were OK and needed a lift any where, also the person with winter tyres (sorry not snow) I stopped and asked them if they wanted a lift. Is Yorkshire folk are nice 🙂

My thread wasn't so much about being smug, more about its useless having transportation that works in snow because you end up getting stuck anyhow!

Ironically I did sit in a que for 50 mins only to find no one was attempting to go up a hill by Harlow Carr. Which actually wasn't an issue

Martin - no it's the back road passed Stainburn

Indeed... unless other people have skill and appropriate tyres you are probably going nowhere...

BUT there [i]is [/i]a reason why snosox are not used much by people in Alpine areas and you won't be allowed up some "fit chains" roads with them.

For me, the thing that improved my ability to get out in the snow was selling my BMW and getting a proper car 😉

more about its useless having transportation that works in snow because you end up getting stuck anyhow!

Well - you did, on that occasion, but not everyone does everywhere, of course.

*Swoons at the driving gods and people who are prepared for the nuclear holocaust/0.5" snow*

You might be able to stop, but your tires probably cost more than my car is worth, and I'm coming down the hill behind you, not so smug now!

[some of the above may be sarcastic and not intended to be taken as fact, it could be a childs face or baby robin, not an Audi sportback with winter tyres and a thule ride on rack on the back driven by a smug git]

Work for this fella:

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Cheers OP, finally found out what 'megalols' are.

stoatsbrother +1

Snow tyres do not convey [s]immortality[/s] driving skills or limitless traction - or the judgement when to stay at home.

Drove back from peebles in heavy wet snow a couple of weeks back, not very much grip even with the snowproxes- very glad for them. And not the first time this winter either.

I use my rally-certified troll tyres in the snow. They offer unsurpassed levels of grip even on actual icebergs and bring all the boys to my troll yard, which in combination with my supernaturally brilliant driving skills allows me to safely tailgate at speeds of up to 150mph.

And before you query that, I used to be a professional troll driving instructor who taught the trolls how to drive, so I think I'm well qualified to comment here.

One last question, do I fit troll tyres all round or just on the front or rear or diagonally opposed axles? 😉

I don't need Snow Tyres, or Winter Tyres, I've got a VOIP phone and an internet connection.

Do you stay home from Dec to March so you don't get caught out when:

From no where started hammering down with snow.

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I've passed a few people with snow tyres struggling going up Norwood Edge

They must have crap tyres or be crap drivers, or both.
Winters took our car from spinning on the flat in slush to hauling up 14% gradient in 4" of fresh with no spin.
And we can still steer 😉

It's great to be still mobile. Sit out the traffic, let chaos clear and everyone dump their cars and we're still mobile on the uncleared compacted hills round our way.

'Skill' helps, but at the end of the day you can't create friction, and good winters are awesome. For years I've wanted to ski down the side of Winnats Pass but when there's been snow, could never get there. Last year we used the BMW with Conti's and were doing uplifts. 4x4s on summer tyres were stuck.

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I was quite impressed with the snow socks I got for my Merc. It had very little clearance between the tyres and bodywork so fitting them wasn't fun, but once on they were very effective and the car made it up some steepish hills that FWD and even 4x4 cars were getting stuck on. Without the snow socks the Merc was awful in snow or ice conditions.

I've since replaced it with a 4x4 which apparently has "snow and mud" rated tyres however that seems to be acting as a snow deterrent so I've not had a chance to try it out properly.

A lot is down to being used to driving in snow. Lots of people just don't know how to do it and panic and just floor it when they don't seem to going anywhere.

I turned up to work one day to be greeted with glee. Great you can help us push Joy's car out, she's got it stuck in the snow in the car park.

Outside 1 Audi A4 in about 3-4 cm of snow and a big flat patch of compacted snow and ice where she had tried and wheelspun a lot. Bloody heavy thing to push on slippy ground with only a couple of very slight ladies to 'help'. Jumped in nudged it forward to get it moving then reversed straight out. Just practice from learning to drive in the north east of Scotland rather than the northwest of england.

Not trolling BadlyWiredDog, just jealous of all this talk of snow as all we've got here in Bristol is wind and rain.