I wonder if someone is waiting on a lone phone in basement somewhere. Just waiting for that call :-).
"the" is the most used word in the English language. Maybe the Environment Agency has used them all up
Please ask them whether they've just used their own allocation or if the English language is now bereft, thanks
There is another wall a little bit further on. Concrete thing about 50cm high and 30cm wide. Perfect for sitting and ignoring the above repeating sign.
They were made offsite in controlled conditions. Then the simple EA nail gunned signs every 30m or so into them. Some are already cracking.
Perhaps the sign only applies to EA staff.?
"the" is the most used word in the English language. Maybe the Environment Agency has used them all up
I would assume that's a warning to the wall to keep off something unspecified. Maybe add a comma?
It’s an instruction to the wall to keep off you. The environment agency if called will explain at length the wall’s troubled history and how it’s easily triggered into sudden and unnecessary violence when photographed
edit - beaten to it but only because I was on hold waiting to speak to the environment agency
I would describe that as a fence rather than a wall.
Maybe it's a Yorkshire sign
"I would describe that as a fence rather than a wall."
I thought that as well. I was going say to say that to the EA....but they may of took offence.
IGMC
As the well-known song goes: "Just another brick in wall."
Are you sure it's not an art installation?
Can you plonk a pair of Vans on the wall, for extra rule breaking points?
I would describe that as a fence rather than a wall.
As it appears to be sheet steel, possibly Corten steel pilings driven in to reinforce the river bank as an erosion defence and barrier, I’d say describing it as a fence is rather understating it a bit..
And adding ‘Please’ would be nice, as well, but quite why the EA are ordering people to keep off it I don’t really understand, unless it’s an ‘elf ‘n’ safety’ fing, absolving them from an injury claim if someone slips and injures themselves in the process… 🤷🏼♂️
I would describe that as a fence rather than a wall.
As it appears to be sheet steel, possibly Corten steel pilings driven in to reinforce the river bank as an erosion defence and barrier, I’d say describing it as a fence is rather understating it a bit..
And adding ‘Please’ would be nice, as well, but quite why the EA are ordering people to keep off it I don’t really understand, unless it’s an ‘elf ‘n’ safety’ fing, absolving them from an injury claim if someone slips and injures themselves in the process… 🤷🏼♂️
It is health and safety.
Specifically a EA Public Safety Risk Assessment (PSRA) has been undertaken. What will have been flagged is that lip. Its pretty shoddy to leave and edge like that because if you slip it will do serious damage.
Always worth remembering with this stuff its not aimed at those who think its rediculously obvious. Its aimed that don't or can't see the danger, kids enebriated etc. The PSRA workflow is pretty pragmatic signs might have been identified as a proportionate response rather that going wild with fencing and handrails and stuff.
Specifically a EA Public Safety Risk Assessment (PSRA) has been undertaken. What will have been flagged is that lip. Its pretty shoddy to leave and edge like that because if you slip it will do serious damage.
What I thought, also, as you’ve mentioned, leaving that top edge exposed is very shoddy, I’m surprised a follow up assessment didn’t flag it as needing further investigation and remedial action. Although HM Government bean counters probably thought a cheap, poorly worded sign is all that’s needed.
I’d be more concerned about getting rust marks all over my clothes trying to climb up it!
Its not a poorly worded sign?
Safety signs aren't supposed to be sentences they are supposed to be unambiguous, its supposed to be slightly jarring and blunt. It does all those things and no one can claim they didn't understand that sign.
Although HM Government bean counters probably thought a cheap, poorly worded sign is all that’s needed.
Thats not how the PSRA works and its absolutely not how the EA views safety. Honestly they're pretty good at it. The guidance tells us that keeping people safe is the priority (adding safety features is cheaper than court cases though), it tells us that the options shouldn't interfere with safe recreational use of its assets. Its used on anything new which is quite straight forward as you hopefully can design out. But applying it to preexisting assets takes time and is more difficult to get right.
What Why and when that sheet pile exists might suggest why its proportionate. I can't quite picture where it is, somewhere around portishead behinds the defence embankments? It looks new so could be a temporary emergency fix to be tidied up. Or it could be in a fairly difficult to access point away from centres of population. Or it could just be a mess.
It does all those things and no one can claim they didn't understand that sign.
Would it hurt to say 'please'?
With careful application it can appear polite whilst actually being blunt, passive aggressive even.
Perhaps this is an application for Tim Allen's "If you really loved me you'd know what it is I want you to do right now" version of the Stop / Go sign
Would it hurt to say 'please'?
Yes, more people would be inclined to ignore the sign, more people would get hurt. Its not a conversation.
With careful application it can appear polite whilst actually being blunt, passive aggressive even.
Exactly the point So to some it would mean "please consider not", to other it means "this really isn't something worth the risk", to others it means "just ****ing don't".
Theres loads of weird stuff attached to public safety. For example put a fence round something is, to some extent a signal that there is something 'worth seeing/stealing/investigating'. So no you have the unsafe thing AND the rosk of climbing or falling off. So you need an unclimbable fence. Because you don't want someone to climb it and skewer themselves on anti climb spikes. So you only exclude access to really sketchy stuff or where the danger isn't clear.
@ads678 you do them right? Back me up here, as risk assessment stuff goes its pretty pragmatic.
For the physically able, with outdoor experience, it's straightforward to see the risk and avoid, while still ”climbing on the wall". The social effect of blunt warning signage is less opportunity for free play. Not everyone can afford the climbing centre (family of four visit with shoe hire ~£50) on a regular basis, not everyone has a mountain on their doorstep. Less free play means less exposure to risk means less experience with risk means greater risk of risk!
OP, did you ever phone the wall hotline?
OP, did you ever phone the wall hotline?
Hot Environment Agency Officers are waiting for your call.
OP, did you ever phone the wall hotline?
Hot Environment Agency Officers are waiting for your call.
That'll be global warming for you. You'd hope the EA would be ahead of the curve, and give them a (low energy) fan to stay cool.