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[Closed] Why is it that every wendyball thread gets closed?

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So much hatred, so much bile, so much anger.

FFS, people, it's only a game! Lose the pathetic tribalism and look at the sport instead.

Now, it's not a sport to my taste, but I'd far rather see people support it as a sport, rather than as a vent for what is often vile tribalism and sectarian behaviour

Remember, it's just a game


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 7:02 pm
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This would probably be better discussed in the chat forum.

I think you might add "every wendyball thread in which Lanesra gets involved" Flash. The rest of them are a bit of banter.


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 7:04 pm
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Bum. Wrong forum.

Mods, please feel free to move!


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 7:05 pm
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Tis funny though, I can quite easily discuss rugby in a gentlemanly fashion...


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 7:15 pm
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I think it's because Lanresa suffered a tragic family loss at the Heysel Stadium disaster, and feels very angry and emotional. Suffice to say, Liverpool FC are a figure of hate, for him.

I think he should avoid footy threads if they upset him so much.

There's no justification for some of his comments, no matter how emotional he he may be, over the matter.

Best that people are mindful of this, though, and are understanding.

As a Liverpool fan, I feel no ill towards him, and sadness and sympathy for his family.

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Posted : 20/06/2009 7:18 pm
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As mentioned above they are usually ok until Lanesra gets involved. I like football, but also hate it for the bullshit that seems to get attached to it. Getting more into Rugby as a result.


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 7:18 pm
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Rudeboy has hit the nail on the head there. Footy thread gets started, goes OK, Lanresa sees it, gets wound up, and banned, thread gets closed. Agreed, I feel for him, seems to be a release for him maybe? Don't do footy threads now though.


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 9:43 pm
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i agree with jamie.
the football threads seem ok till said person turns up and starts spouting nasty stuff.
and for the record, i despise football as much as i despise salad... 😉


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 9:47 pm
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Why is this the wrong forum for criticism of fartball culture? On my breadcrumb trail it says "CHAT FORUM"

It's not the BIKE forum FFS!


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 9:54 pm
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i think the mods moved it from bike to chat.


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 9:55 pm
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eldridge - it was moved...


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 9:55 pm
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ah! not seen that before!

so could we ask the mods to signpost that in some way?


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 9:58 pm
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Lanesera gets them closed, because he vigorously posts hateful boolshit about Liverpool FC. The light touch moderation that makes this a pretty cool board is vulnerable to this type of bell-end, so I guess he's not going to go away.

This is a fatuous thread, tbh. Do you really not understand the difference between Liverpool playing Man U, and Saracens playing Wasps, for example? Get it together son - it's just a game 🙄


 
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Hi eldridge.

Don't know if you spotted my reply to your previous opinions regarding the beautiful game, but would be interested in a sensible debate on the topic:
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/those-cuddly-scousers-at-it-again ]

Basically, eldridge believes that footy is inherently evil. I on the other hand, do not. Opinions please!


 
Posted : 20/06/2009 10:02 pm
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Oh, ok.

Blind prejudice against football alive and well and the game is inherently evil.
No possible room for debate on THAT one then 🙁

Maybe it's the bile and anger that people actually like, rather than the game itself?
Off to watch the rest of the programmes about the Miners. Only keep popping up here when I get too angry to keep focusing on the TV screen! 🙂


 
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Of course football the game isn't inherently evil -that's just silly. In fact it can be quite absorbing.

On the other hand, the whole culture that has grown up around the game itself and worse, the support are arguably "evil" or probably less sensationally, "negative"

Football support and the associated bile and venom are just an excuse for tribalism and stupidity regardless of how it's dressed up as banter and the only positive I can think of is that at least everyone knows where all the idiots will be just by looking at the match schedules. You only need to look at the footie threads on here and how normally sensible (for stw at least) people start posting things that no one would ever consider reasonable if it wasn't related to football.

The game as an organised sport is pretty awful too and clearly follows on from the behaviour of fans and the prem players. You only need to watch a bunch of under 10s playing to see them swearing at each other, blaming the rest of the team for being useless and being plain offensive to the ref and that's not even starting on the Dads who are living out their misguided footie dreams through their kid.

I have a young son and tbh, i honestly hope he never shows any interest in playing footie beyond with his mates in the park.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 7:55 am
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[i]The game as an organised sport is pretty awful too and clearly follows on from the behaviour of fans and the prem players. You only need to watch a bunch of under 10s playing to see them swearing at each other, blaming the rest of the team for being useless and being plain offensive to the ref and that's not even starting on the Dads who are living out their misguided footie dreams through their kid. [/i]

So football's to blame for kids swearing & giving each other abuse now...

Good grief....


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:02 am
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Lol, not inherently of course but it seems noticeably worse when football's involved.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:09 am
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Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting.
George Orwell


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:19 am
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Just because orwell wrote it doesn't make it universally true.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:24 am
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Imho sport & I mean any sport that young kids take part in can only be a good thing.From my own personal experience of being an old fart who played a fair bit of footy as a yoof & also having two teenage lads. The majority of kids that go off the rails as teenagers rarely take part in sports of any kind,including football.Infact most the footy hooligans that I've known never even played football as kids.....


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:35 am
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Orwell was a bit of a weedy boy IIRC and this might have somewhat coloured his views 🙂

However the tribalism and hatred in football might just have something to do with the sentiments he expressed


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:37 am
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What I love about footie is the "pathetic tribalism" - the singing, the chanting, the hurling of abuse and general venting of spleens. A couple of years ago, our local rivals (same street) got themselves relegated. I miss the derby games so much I now find myself supporting our mortal foes, in the hope of promotion and the reinstatement of those games.
I once got given a tickets for an international rugby game. Scotland against some team in green. What an incredibly dull way to spend an afternoon. I simply could not believe that that many people could create so little atmosphere or have so little passion about a game. If I ranked sleeping outside as one of my hobbies, or was worried that a bit of excitement would finish me off, maybe rugby would work for me. As it is though, I prefer a spot of involvement and ending the game being sufficiently interested to care about the result.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:40 am
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How many people on here chase eggs, regularly, and how many play footie?

Football is simply a superior game, end of. That's why it's the most popliar sport in't World. Rugby is only played by countries where people tend to eat too much, and grow to be big biffers who grunt a lot, as the repeated slamming of their heads into the ground leads to brain damage. The exception is the USA, where the litigation culture means a very simliar game is played with helmets and loads of padding. Strangely, this does not in any way seem to stop it's participants grunting a lot.

Football is enjoyed by many, many many times more people globally, than Rugby, which can't even decide on it's own rules sufficiently, to have one united sport.

Footie is all about skill, control, finesse, athleticism, tactics, passion and commitment*.

Rugby is simply about bashing other people and trying to get an egg-shaped object over the line, using little more than sheer brute force, and a lot of grunting.

(*These attributes may not always be apparent when I am playing..)


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 2:38 pm
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You forgot acting RB... seems to be what soccer is mostly about when I happen to watch it...


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 2:45 pm
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Football, psychle, not 'Soccer'. Football.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 2:51 pm
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Soccer RB... not football... soccer 😀

each to their own guv'ner 😉


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 2:58 pm
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football is actually a generic name for many codes of sport. Rugby football, association football ( or soccer), american football, Gaelic football

So if you wish to be precise RB you need to refer to Soccer or association football to distinguish your favourite code from others


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 3:21 pm
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Technically TJ, you are of course correct if a little pedantic. If someone says to you "Hi Jeremy, I've just been for a game of football", do you ask them to qualify that by asking which particular code before further comment?


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 4:04 pm
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Rugby is simply about bashing other people and trying to get an egg-shaped object over the line, using little more than sheer brute force, and a lot of grunting.

Rugby is also about large men in tight lycra rolling about together in the mud. I can see that would work for some people. The grunting probably helps, in a public school kind of way.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 7:09 pm
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Rude Boy maybe your views are coloured by the detail that the London Rugby teams are $hit?


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:18 pm
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I woon't know. I don't follow Rugby.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 8:20 pm