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[Closed] Why don't we use glass milk bottles anymore?

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 rob2
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I've just put out my recycling. All full of plastic milk bottles. Why don't we return to glass ones?

Plastic ones seem totally unsustainable to me.

And lets see the return of the 'pop man' !


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:08 pm
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we do


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:09 pm
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Buy from the milkman and they will be glass. 😉

They also do 'pop' and bread, eggs, and loads of other things.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:10 pm
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"Pop man" only delivered on birthdays!!! 😈

8)


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:10 pm
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we do 🙂 delivered everyday. Great service!


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:14 pm
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Just started getting bottled milk delivered again this week 😀

Not sure what the milks going to be like after being left on the step all day now Summer is approaching 🙁


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:16 pm
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Don't think they do 4 pint glass ones & there is no way I'm paying the prices of the milk man.Not when we get through around 28 pints a week in our house !


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:16 pm
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Milky comes 3 times a week here. [fnarr]

about 6am in the morning, so we can get it in the house.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:17 pm
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We go through 28 pints too.

And Id rather milky dropped it off than I had to get it back from the shops on the bike.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:17 pm
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Not sure why they don't re-use the plastic ones in the same way as the old glass ones (e.g. Wash them down and fill em up again). Is it a hygiene thing?

Our local pop producer used to do a 15p deposit on glass bottles when I was a lad. Funny how in more enviromentally aware times we go through the wasteful process of melting glass down to re-use it.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:18 pm
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Buy yourself a cow Eamon, might be cheaper...


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:18 pm
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Used to, but he charged nearly double what the supermarket does for milk with half the lifespan, often wouldn't come in time for breakfast (but sometimes did, so you could never plan), and was a miserable ****er to boot.

I'm all for supporting local businesses, but not at any cost.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:19 pm
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Mom and dad still have milk delivered. Steralised.!

Most mornings I beat the milk man out of bead so I can't have it delivered as it would sit on the door step most of the day before it was nicked.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:20 pm
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And Id rather milky dropped it off than I had to get it back from the shops on the bike.

That's why we use the car 8)

Neil, might just do that or pinch one...


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:21 pm
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Glass milk bottles come to our house. The milkman brings them. Long live the house to house milk delivery!


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:41 pm
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Glass bottles hark back to a time before plastic mass-production was as efficient and cheap as it is now.

Those 'squarer' shape of plastic bottles means more can be packed onto lorries, vayns etc. Plus, each bottle is much lighter, reducing transportation costs.

And from an elf and safety point of view, plastic is obviously better.

Simple, really.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:45 pm
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Yeah but why can't they wash out and re-use the plastic ones like they did with glass?


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:46 pm
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The kids do miss out though....
How they ever gonna go "Humphreying".
Brings back so many memories,happy days 😉


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:50 pm
 will
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we give our bottles back to milk man, guess he just washes them, and reuses them...


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 7:51 pm
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You can't wash out and reuse plastic bottles for two reasons.

1: You can't get them hot enough to sterilise them without melting them.
2: They would get crushed on the way back to the dairy, making it impossible to fit a new lid on them.

Actually, a third reason;

3: The only reliable way to get them back to the dairy is with the milkman, and most people don't use a milkman any longer.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:00 pm
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bottles everyday very handy, we need more one day just ask and its there brill i think


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:08 pm
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We have a milkman too.
To save on deliveries he comes Monday, Wed. and Fri. with double the amount.
There is a website somewhere which tells you how to get a milkman near to you.
Our milk is also from local farms, so hasn't travelled a great distance.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:34 pm
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The logistics of glass don't work anymore unless you have a milkman.

You should be able to sterilise HDPE bottles without melting them. They do it on the initial fill as the bottle come open and are not sterile.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:34 pm
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as bunnyhop says, if you get deliveries not on every day (i.e. tues, thurs, sat for us) then you should always have milk for breakfast from the last delivery. I find ours keeps perfectly well for upto 5 days in the fridge no bother.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:36 pm
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The milkman here delivers milk in plastic bottles. ****in' early though. Sometimes when I get home at 3.30am my neighbours milk is already on her step.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:39 pm
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our milkman delivers in plastic bottles which is a real shame


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:40 pm
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Milk delivered fresh in glass bottles 6 days a week.
If we run out then we just walk round to the farm and help ourselves and sign the honesty book!


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:41 pm
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We get milk in glass 6 days a week. We also get eggs, OJ and veg boxes from him. He probably does other stuff but I don't know about 'pop'.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 8:49 pm
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http://findmeamilkman.net/ says there are no milkman in my area, but you may have more luck.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 10:04 pm
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Milk on the doorstep is the foundation of civilisation, surely?


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 10:23 pm
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[i]Why don't we return to glass ones? [/i]

I don't know why you don't but we don't as it's cheaper to buy it from a shop.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 10:27 pm
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What Trampus said.
It's also nice to know that, if you use the last drop of milk for you're bedtime beverage, there'll be some on the doorstep at breakfast time. This gets around that 23.30 trip to the petrol station/24hr supermarket.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 10:45 pm
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Milk on the doorstep is the foundation of civilisation, surely?

Well it is in the UK I'm not sure about the rest of the world?

Our milkman "Andy" is a sub 3 hour marathon runner, he runs his whole round while other person drives the van/float IMO that is a good thing.

We would rather support a local person that supplies milk from a dairy 1/2 mile away, than the likes of robbingbastardstescos.

Not only that but me getting the milk in early gives me some indication what clothing is going to be required for a ride to work.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 10:49 pm
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Mr.O With you! 🙂


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 11:15 pm
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UK is the only country in the world with door step delivery.
glass bottles can only be used so many times then they get recycled (yes some must be used more than others )and it only works because of the regular return of bottles by the roundsman (milkman to you) but for some stupid reason the milk marketing board (thats what it use to be)fix the price that roundsmen must sell the pint's at.but the supermarkets buy straight from the dairy's so under cut the roundsmen and have now pretty much taken them out of the loop.


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 11:41 pm
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"You can't wash out and reuse plastic bottles..."

You can if you make them thick enough. I can't remember where it was (Denmark? Hungary?) but soft drinks and beer bottles were all the same size by law, and you could get reusable glass and plastic ones. IIRC, glass beer bottles were used 90 times before they became too weak (they get scanned at the production line and destroyed before use). I think it was Denmark.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 2:43 am
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Milkman here too. glass bottles, delivered monday, tuesday, thursday and saturday. A pint on a Monday, two pints every other day, so we get 7 pints a week. Fab.


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 8:55 am