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Are they poorer than non disabled drivers ?
Some car parks charge disabled drivers, if you've got a car than you can afford to park it ?
I'm not sure where I stand on this one -persuade me either way !
Many disabled drivers get their cars through motability because they are unable to walk very far or may have difficulty accessing public transport...
Not sure about who should pay and not but I'm sure they would trade the blue badge for full health and fitness.
I think what frustrates me most is blue badge parking on double yellows.
If the flow of traffic or pedestrian sight lines are important then protect them. If designated disabled parking is needed, create it.
Maybe they are maybe they're not but given my Dad can't walk more than 1/4 of a mile without it becoming an effort walking to the local shops is out.
The argument, I assume, goes along the lines that they need the car as they can't walk or cycle to wherever they're going, so it shouldn't cost them as much for the "convenience" - same argument used to get them subsidised cars I think
Not so sure now that we're all bastards an' that
I get the whole parking closer to amenities that's a given, even if you get car from mobility doesn't mean you have no money....far from it from the people I know that have had mobility cars
^ or an allowance.
A mate chops and changes between motobility cars and an allowance. I think he would like to not have to do it as well.
Are they poorer than non disabled drivers ?
I expect so yes.
I'm not sure where I stand on this one
😆 what a **** you are
Have a little think as to why they are allowed to park on double yellows for small periods of time....... go on try really hard and let us know if you fathom as to why it might be.
If you get that, then you can't legitimately charge for it - otherwise you're denying that it's a "necessity" aren't you ?I get the whole parking closer to amenities that's a given
Or, why is it people who are perfectly mobile be allowed to use a car? Surely a car should be used only be disabled people and walking or cycling be used by all those who are able.
Why should money dictate your rights rather than need? If you know someone who is disabled then you'll know how difficult it is for them to get around. Why get upset about them not having to pay for parking? As someone above said, I'm sure they'd rather pay for parking and not have a disability.
Don't know why I'm bothering, you could have googled this yourself.
[url= http://www.poverty.org.uk/40/index.shtml ]some stats[/url]
It's OK though, I'm sure the Tories will notice soon and take it off them.
To be fair, it also varies greatly from place to place and depends greatly on the local authority as to what benefit a blue badge gives you. For example, some authorities will let you park on double yellows, whilst others will not. My local country park charges disabled just as much as everyone else, but then you can park on double yellows outside the park if you like...
From the many people I've met over the years who have mobility cars they come from various backgrounds just like those without mobility cars. However there are those that due to having to rely on claiming disability allowance as they can't or ever have been able to work have very little money.
A blue badge has transformed what we can do with our disabled Daughter.
Being able to park close to things we want and have to do means we can now do things as a family, where in the past this was not possible.
I have no problem paying for parking, it's the access options that we appreciate.
We have never had to park on double yellows either, planning ahead helps as most places have disabled access parking spaces.
fatuous comment is fatuous.Have a little think as to why they are allowed to park on double yellows for small periods of time....... go on try really hard and let us know if you fathom as to why it might be.
As I said in post: if disabled access parking is needed, build it (and in doing so it will be done bearing in mind all the needs of road users /pedestrians/cyclists etc)
Using blue badges as a fudge that take no account if the impact on other users is a sloppy solution.
However there are those that due to having to rely on claiming disability allowance as they can't or ever have been able to work have very little money.
My mate, on benefits for the majority of his life, he's in his early 60s now, managed little bit of work when he was younger, but was warned off it, risk of permanent paralysis does that.
He has always said if the could have had the opportunity to work he would have, but even a desk job would have been impossible.
Using blue badges as a fudge that take no account if the impact on other users is a sloppy solution.
Oh bless do these annoying disabled people inconvenience you for a couple of seconds a year.
Oh bless do these annoying disabled people inconvenience you for a couple of seconds a year.
They make the place look untidy.
He has always said if the could have had the opportunity to work he would have, but even a desk job would have been impossible.
Yeah but he's loaded because of all the benefits, probably foreign too and all his family are coming over for free Britain.
Clearly it isnt possible to build parking for a great many buildings in towns and cities due to a space issue.
Some people cannot walk more than a few steps and having parking immediately outside certain buildings (double yellows) is the only way they can use those services.
Not everyone has the benefit of friends and family to rely on in these circumstances.
Why the hell I am explaining this is beyond me, a shitty thread just trying to be shitty.
Maybe it's just a NICE THING TO DO and in a world of self-absorbed, grasping attitudes it should be celebrated.
Oh bless do these annoying disabled people inconvenience you for a couple of seconds a year.
You've got me, bang on there a-a. As ever with your deep understanding of the nuances of the matter. I can hardly wait for your input these days.
Surely it would be better for everyone if there was a visual distinction between the areas on which blue badge parking is appropriate and where (as the site states) it isn't. Say with blue kerb markers.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/blue-badge-scheme-guide-badge-holders#toc-3
I can see why they don't pay, seems appropriate.
I can't understand why they can park on double yellows if the lines are there for safety/access reasons HOWEVER I think most disabled drivers probably don't use that option often as I've never seen a disabled driver use that right - or at least not noticed it causing a problem anywhere.
So it seems to work as far as I can see.
Yeah but he's loaded because of all the benefits, probably foreign too and all his family are coming over for free Britain.
He's is a cockney living in Newcastle, so you are partly right. Otherwise wrong on all accounts.
He does have many sets of longjohns that he wears in winter so that the heating doesn't have to be turned on.
Or have I missed your sarcasm on that?
You probably need to give your sarc-o-meter a tap Quirrel
I have a Blue Badge and the free parking means I don't have to walk to the ticket machine. Every yard counts in the MS game.
I asked as it's been on the news re hospital car parks
Please don't make me out to be the ****on this thread it's a plain simple question meant without malice.
As I've said before, a lot of authorities place heavy restrictions on disabled parking on double yellows, for exactly the reasons you've highlighted, stoner.
Now if only they could stop taxis doing it...
Or have I missed your sarcasm on that?
Some what.
Now if only they could stop taxis doing it...
Or those without blue badges.
You do have to pay in most places, you can park on double yellows but you can't cause an obstruction or block traffic or park on double yellows with a yellow mark on the kerb,
The biggest problem with blue badges is non disabled people using them illegally,
But I know, all those bloody disabled people coming over here stealing our parking and claiming our benefits having never worked a bloody day in their lives,..
Well towards the end of their lives my parents had blue badges.
Being able to park close to something (especially at the hospital) was a real boon and less distance e better when a wheelchair was required. #****cancer.
They really aren't that easy to get/keep. That my mum could walk a 1/4 mile on a good day (definitely not on a bad) was enough for hers to taken away...
WTF apparently fully able bodied people (i.e. No badge) feel it necessary to park in the [i]closest[/i] disabled space is beyond me. Talking about selfish ****s.
Just be glad it's not you. FFYFF
Come to think of it, WTF do car drivers think it's acceptable to park on pavements?
park on pavements
Instant crushing offence
Lots of abuse of blue badges though - not least since they're not restricted to people with mobility issues. Personally I think there is a ban parking on double yellow and tighten up eligibility/review those issued.
My aunt is entitled to a blue badge (but dies r have one). She has Polio as a child and has reduced use of one hand. Drives a normal car and is happy climbing ladders at 75. A friend qualifies for a badge because she is partially deaf.(again doesn't take one )
I see a lot of use by (what appear to be) perfectly able bodied people in London.
Or have I missed your sarcasm on that?
I think I'm going to give this place (or at least the chat forum) a miss for a bit. There are just too many people with such poor people skills they can't pick up on the very simplest nuance. I do wonder how they cope in the real world.
I think I'm going to give this place (or at least the chat forum) a miss for a bit.
Please tell me you're joking?
I don't mind paying to park in a disabled space somewhere that is for pleasure like say the Eden Project as the extra width allows me to get the wife into her wheelchair.
But I get a bit fed up with paying £5.20 for just over 2 hours at a hospital for an appointment that should have taken 20 minutes tops but was dragged out because 1 member of staff didn't show up.
It does vary from hospital to hospital though Chester are quite good as if you take your appointment letter & blue badge to the cash office they give you a free get out of the car park ticket.
I see a lot of use by (what appear to be) perfectly able bodied people in London.
My brother has a severely autistic son, he's perfectly able bodied. And he knows how to use it too! It's like herding cats... The blue badge for him was a real boon, made life just a little bit easier. It's not always the driver that needs the badge....
If the flow of traffic or pedestrian sight lines are important then protect them. If designated disabled parking is needed, create it.
Using blue badges as a fudge that take no account if the impact on other users is a sloppy solution.
I may be the only one that thinks you have a point. If I were disabled I wouldn't much fancy parking on double yellows if it meant it was harder to get in and out of my car because of the traffic or if I returned to my car to find the wing mirror had been smacked again. Proper disability parking provision would be a better answer but is about as likely as proper cycle lane provision
It's not as clear cut as it seems. At least two organisations who exist to promote the rights of disabled people had changed their stance on this - certainly in the last five years, to support charging for disabled spaces.
As I found out when one of my team was delivering a car park project. It was seen to reduce misuse of spaces and badges by those not entitled to use them.
the real world.
?????
Eden Project - we took our daughter there yesterday 😉
Was a good workout pushing her round and no we did not feel the need to use our BB.
'kin'ell... Does assisting those less fortunate than ourselves really need much explanation.
Schemes aren't always perfect in their implementation but at least is shows a willing in the right direction.
I see a lot of use by (what appear to be) perfectly able bodied people in London.
A bit like my Dad who has one and my brother who doesn't as he can't be bothered with judgemental people who can assess people's abilities by the way they appear.
