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They don't really work and there are much better "renewable" energy sources that we should be looking at. So why are the Lammermuirs covered in them?


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:13 pm
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Coz if you stick them up the govt give you £100,000.

Every year.

Each turbine.

We pay for that in increased power bills.

And we pay for the power that comes off them.

Tidal power seems a better bet; the sea's always going in or out. But it's not being seen to be green, so not fashionable.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:17 pm
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Wave power is where it's at. Massive amounts of energy just waiting to be harnessed...


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:20 pm
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So I have something slightly more interesting than just a dull lifeless hill to look at from my living room.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:21 pm
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'cos the wind takes your troubles away.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:22 pm
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funny thing is, view from my kitchen is the twin towers of stinky cocken[b]d[/b]zie.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:22 pm
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I'm into them cos if it will rumple the feathers of the reactionaries and luddites then I'll happily get one erected on my arse..


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:23 pm
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Tidal and wave is being installed. Windfarms do work and do produce energy. Elegant as well IMO


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:23 pm
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GW, get some binoculars. I'll go up and run about naked. You know you love it.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:23 pm
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They don't really work and there are much better "renewable" energy sources that we should be looking at. So why are the Lammermuirs covered in them?

You can't just come in here and do that!!
Come on!
Where is your evidence that they don't work? Documentary evidence? Links? Anything to support your argument?
What do you think is the solution? What altenatives are you offering? Again with figures and documentary evidence.
No half arsed rants here, please!


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:24 pm
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"up" you mean 😉


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:24 pm
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save your petrol money just come up and jump around naked in my trampoline


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:25 pm
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TJ, a few are quite nice, but now the lammys are covered in them. They've even destroyed an ancient right of way, the herring road, to build the windmills. They do (sometimes) produce energy but are in no way cost effective.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:26 pm
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Why do people like windfarms?

because the infrastructure destroys the deep peat moorland they site them on, negatively impacts the drinking water catchment

they are also silent in operation, operate all the time, don't burst into flames and have replaced umpteen "conventional" power stations

the operators also put loads of money into the local communities and create lots of jobs


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:27 pm
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Mike, you been up Sutra and seen them close up, I think they're quite cool. way cooler than disused war bunkers and dookits for instance 😉


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:27 pm
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Don Simon - I did have a link to a website that showed what energy sources were powering the grid but I cant find the wensite. Epic fail on my behalf, I know.

GW, be up in half an hour, just after I've shaved.....


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:29 pm
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I think it's a step in the right direction. I quite like them, although they are a bit spooky. When I go to Glyncorrig and see them I feel a little bit afraid that they are going to turn round and zap me (like War of the Worlds). Part of the answer. Along with a changing of our lives so we use less power, more 'home' power schemes, more wave power. Reduce. Reduce. Reduce (which can be done without too much pain, if only people would think laterally). BUT my friend in Wales tells me that his local wind turbines are owned by the French and profits go to them, that's not good. Plus, all that concrete for the roads leading to isn't very good.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:30 pm
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I've been up and seen them, they are pretty cool too look at up close. The best bit about the windfarms are the tracks around them. I can blat up them on the GS and feel like Ewan MacGregor. There's just to many of the things now. Its ruined the novelty factor.
No way as good as nuclear bunkers. 😆


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:33 pm
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Epic fail on my behalf, I know.

At least you recognise it, I still can't take your wild claims seriously though. 😉
Silent operation? 😆


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:33 pm
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What head angle/tyres for looking at windmills?


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:33 pm
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Which is prettiest?
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Posted : 03/12/2011 6:35 pm
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doesn't matter which is the prettiest, the windfarm doesn't replace the other two


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:38 pm
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before your time Mike but watch the vid

http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=8500&search_term=dunbar&search_join_type=AND&search_fuzzy=yes

I was there, expect CK would have been too.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:38 pm
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You know, over the last few hundred years, those folks over in the Netherlands have been building windfarms to pump out the water and nowadays, they are seen as an attraction?

I am not saying modern windfarms don't have the same appeal, it is just they are a new feature on our landscape and people generally don't like change.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:39 pm
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does matter which is prettiest
Yes, you're right it does 😆


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:39 pm
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So what do those babies churn out (given a moderate breeze)?


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:40 pm
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I think torness looks the best! It looks like something from star wars. Looks cool at night too.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 6:43 pm
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I kind of like them because I get paid handsomely to produce visual impact assessment photography for the developers once or twice a year 🙂 Couple of months hanging around in the mountains waiting for decent visibility, all expenses paid, all day hikes miles from anywhere - dog loves it too!


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 7:01 pm
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always wanted to cycle across that overpass/bridge thing at Cockenzie, prob could have years back too (seeing as the old man ran the place).


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 7:06 pm
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"might not work, but i'm 'kin raking it it"

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Posted : 03/12/2011 7:06 pm
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they are also silent in operation, operate all the time, [b]don't burst into flames[/b] and have replaced umpteen "conventional" power stations

Just for big_n_daft 🙂

[url= http://imgur.com/a/SURqE#0 ]Lots more pics here[/url] - apparently the gearbox oil gets hot sometimes

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Posted : 03/12/2011 7:40 pm
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there is a solution that does away with the need for wind farms and power stations, not totally i grant.

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i know they are boring but your choice.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 7:42 pm
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Oooohhh! I hope I see that happen some day!
if they all went up on Sutra it'd be the best birthday cake ever!!


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 7:43 pm
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Oooohhh! I hope I see that happen some day!

Just make sure you move your car

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Posted : 03/12/2011 7:46 pm
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They do (sometimes) produce energy but are in no way cost effective.

Considering banks are fairly massive investors in windfarms, and they're fairly cautious on their expenditure these days, some might disagree. I quite like the look of a few of them standing in places, but I dislike seeing farms of them across pretty countryside. I'd much rather see them in the sea, and they make a nice addition to an industrial waterfront

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Posted : 03/12/2011 7:49 pm
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Always baffles me how people will whine about wind turbines, yet no-one bats an eyelid about countryside pylons which are fugly and everywhere.

Goddamn NIMBYs.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:06 pm
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Considering banks are fairly massive investors in windfarms, and they're fairly cautious on their expenditure these days, some might disagree.

See:
Coz if you stick them up the govt give you £100,000.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:10 pm
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yet no-one bats an eyelid about countryside pylons which are fugly and everywhere.

There was some serious prolonged winging and escapades around here
They got up to all sorts to try and stop them

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/archive/1998/05/09/York+Archive/7969350.Shares_bid_to_blow_fuse_in_pylons_plan/

http://www.revolt.co.uk/suppor1.html


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:10 pm
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On ince marshes next to one of the largest oil refinerys in the uk, a huge glass bottle making plant, the manchester ship cannal, the largest uk producer of highly poisonous chlorine and other nasties,along with a large fertilizer plant, and a major motorway,2 railway lines going to different placesand a major river, they want to put some wind turbines, and the locals are complaining about visual impact.

Ince marshes is the stretch of motorway just after chester services and just before the runcorn turnoff the m56


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:24 pm
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and the locals are complaining about visual impact.

That is possibly one of the funniest things ever.
[img] http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=2140 [/img]


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:28 pm
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I like them though they remind me of The Tripods, that old bbc kids programme, so a bit eerily creepy too. I think they look way prettier on a hillside than your average ski development


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:36 pm
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Oh and i forgot the itinerant travels camp, next to the motorway, as well as a major airport flightpath, from John Lennon airport speke, along with Manchester, then theres the thousands of scoucers who live across the river.

At least if they did have a leak they could turn the wind turbines on and blow the fumes away.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:37 pm
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Can see more than large 20 windmills from the windows at our hous,e including one of the earliest in the UK powering an individual factory. Also several farms with smaller unit each. On the coldest days of the winter they are always still just when they are needed. Am resonably happy them being there but am fully aware that given our collective us of electricity, we need every coal/gas/nuclear station we have. Having said that, in the next 5 years a good portion of our coal and nuclear stations will be shut down. So will be connecting my turbo trainer up to the grid, reckon I could be earning a couple of quid a week given the massive subsidy for PV on house roofs.


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:47 pm
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The amount of rare earth metals in a typical windfarm is quite staggering - and the negative environmental impact of extracting and refining those metals even more so. But that happens in China so none of the windfarm evangelists ever mention it...


 
Posted : 03/12/2011 8:56 pm
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I reckon most houses should all have little 'uns to help things along, though I guess it would be nimby for real for some


 
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