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I think it's a weird old person thing. Nobody I know carries a knife or multi-tool, other than the bikey kind of multi-tool.

I've carried one since I was around eight or nine, even used to take it to school; I could sharpen a pencil better than with a pencil-sharpener.
And _tom_, do you ever go further than your front garden? There are a great many things these days that come sealed in thick plastic that cannot be opened without something sharp, like memory cards, as just one example. I'd seriously like to see you buy one then try to open the packaging with your teeth!
Over the years I've lost count of the times I've heard someone say, 'anyone got a knife I can borrow?', then heard 'ask Ade, he's always got one on him!'
See, everyone has a use for one away from a house, they just can't be arsed to carry their own.
I'm also starting to make myself walking sticks as a hobby, and a decent sharp knife is really handy for trimming off the small branches or thorns after cutting the basic stick; try carrying a four-foot length of blackthorn sometime, without trimming it off.
Even a broken fingernail becomes a pain if you can't trim back the sharp edges...


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 7:22 pm
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I'd seriously like to see you buy one then try to open the packaging with your teeth!

No, I'd use a pair of scissors like a normal person.


 
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Posted : 04/01/2014 7:32 pm
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A pair of scissors is far more practical for opening that stupid sealed packaging. Doesn't give you an erection though.


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 7:35 pm
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I have a bollock dagger for that DD! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 7:39 pm
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I have you for that mudders ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 7:42 pm
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I use this for a general knife in camelbak.

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For field archery a small swiss army knife and a screwdriver for prying arrows out of timber. Also just as useful for stabbing duties.

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Does not happen that much as I never miss (drop) ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 7:42 pm
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I used to fish a lot,and carried a Mora knife,similar to this
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,for cutting up bait,cutting line,and whittling,I found it very useful.


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 7:50 pm
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Without a knife how would i Grolloch a deer or paunch a rabbit? Punch its intestines out?


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 10:05 pm
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I've got 5 or 6 knives, all got various uses, opinel no.8 is usually in my pocket when I'm out around the garden or helping girlfriend or friends doing a bit of farming or buggering about. I have a skinning knife, a couple of bigger drop points I've been given, a pruning knife, plus a leatherman that I always take biking or on walking/outdoors trips. I always have a knife in the glovebox, but I'm careful not to carry one on me at work or when going out and about in town.

A (farmer's son) friend of mine spent a night in the cells in Oxford a few years ago as a result of leaving his pen knife in his pocket accidentally & a nightclub pat-down. Got a caution & they confiscated his knife, lesson learned.


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 10:18 pm
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http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/knife-making-zb0z1309ztri.aspx#axzz2n7U9Libh

For anyone who fancies a DIY go. My next projext


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 10:23 pm
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How has this thread gone so far without saying this

"Guns for show, knifes for a pro !"

Really !


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 10:25 pm
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Cos we all knew the plural of knife is knives?


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 10:27 pm
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Wysiwig... I did one of those, and it was great but didn't temper it properly and it eventually broke. Made a couple of nice mini throwing knives after tho....


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 11:05 pm
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The people I work with used to question why I had a small pocket knife almost all the time until I pointed out how often they ask to borrow it.

I'd rather use a good pocket knife than a stanly knife
And nothing beats a sitting out with the bike in the hedge cutting up lunch mid ride


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 11:14 pm
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why do people have/keep/collect knives?

Food preparation and hobby. For the former I normally used Japanese/Chinese/Thai knives, while the latter I simply collect knives for maggot zombies dooms day scenario. My next buys will be Fujiwara Deba (will order from Japan soon) and Cold Steel Kukri ... :mrgreen:

I live in the country and do lots of outside pursuits but have never felt the need to keep a knife (other than a stanley knife in my tool box), let alone knives of varying sizes.

The place where I grew up I used to carry 'parang' (machete) for outdoor pursuits and Stanley knife just won't do it an equatorial rain forest (the mosquito would laugh at you). You will be digested by the forest if you only have Stanley knife in an emergency. Now, living in GeordieLand I feel naked without a parang but then there is nothing to chop as there is no forest but some zombies ...

What do these people do with them?

The chef knives are mainly used for food preparation (just bought a chopping board yesterday from a Chinese supermarket), as I enjoy cooking with good knives. All my knives are extremely sharp so cutting up meat or veg or chop through bones are done with ease. A blunt knife can be dangerous.

As for wanting to buy a Cold Steel Kukri that's because I grew up with parang/machete (I was carrying it around when I was 9 yr old - blade length was about 24 inches) and my instinct is I want one just for emergency hacking ... I am particularly fond of the story of the Gurka using his Kukri to lop off the enemy's head off with a single swift lop. I think the enemy was sticking his head out of the window and the Gurka was already there waiting. The rest of his Gurka colleagues saw it and they had a quite laugh because they found his action rather funny.

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p/s: this one ...

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and this one ... a cheapo version but rather good.

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Posted : 04/01/2014 11:25 pm
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If you like knives, you've got to keep them sharp, so any advice out there? For stainless kitchen knives & carbon steel folding knives? Cheapest option best - whetstone, but never mastered a good technique, or keeping an edge long term.


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 11:42 pm
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Core... waterstone and a ceramic steel for chefs knives. Waterstone and diamond steel for everything else. And its all about practice to get a proper edge.


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 11:48 pm
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Opinel no.8, in fact I've just bought another because my wife claimed the last one. Useful on picnics and such and I would carry it daily to eat my lunch but reluctantly abide by bloody silly rules.

A couple of different grade diamond steels seem to do a reasonable job on all our knifes, chisels even finished an axe of with them.


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 11:55 pm
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[i]A (farmer's son) friend of mine spent a night in the cells in Oxford a few years ago as a result of leaving his pen knife in his pocket accidentally & a nightclub pat-down. Got a caution & they confiscated his knife, lesson learned.[/i]

I know of a few Young Farmers & they always go clubbing in their work clothes, or go to work in their clubbing gear, can't remember which it is.

When I go sea fishing I carry two knives, a bait knife like the one shown above, & a Finnish made filleting knife which is as sharp as a razor with an 8" blade. So don't piss me off when I'm fishin!


 
Posted : 04/01/2014 11:55 pm
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I grew up in the country on a farm, I reckon mad dad has carried a knife with him at home for close to 50 years and never managed to stab anyone.

I had a couple when I was on the farm.

Now I have a couple of Opinels (one big one small) a couple of swiss army ones and a small lock knife for climbing emergencies.

The climbing knife is an essential piece of safety equipment, having had to cut a rope against a rock edge while precariously balanced halfway up a very big mountain, I never forget the knife now.
I prefer to take the opinels out when we are doing food in the outdoors as they can be locked away safely when not in use and not remove your fingers when your looking for them. Great knives, like most things it's not the knife thats the problem it's the user.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:00 am
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I've got to 38 years, and spent a [i]wee[/i] bit of it in the outdoors, and I've never felt the need to carry a knife. I feel so inadequate now, reading this.

I'm not against knife carrying per se, not at all, but I have never really heard an argument that justifies carrying one?

Chopping an apple or cutting cheese? Really? Do these people not have teeth?.

Educate me please.


 
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Chopping this up


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:10 am
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Nobeerinthefridge yesterday


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:48 am
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Nobeerintheinthefridge how do you cut up your tea? When you are camping?
Or cut a cord? Suppose you split a tyre how do you cut something to size to patch it? Or indeed how do you open a bottle of beer?


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:58 am
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Swiss Army knife (Victorinox) - lives in my work bag most of the time. Often used, though given I'm desk-bound, I do get the odd funny look.

Opinel 7 - bought in France. Some as the one I used loads as a lad.

Trevor Ablett pocket knife - bought for me by my FIL as he knew how much I liked the idea of knives still being handmade in Sheffield.

My god - I sound like a knife collector ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 1:19 am
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Nobeer - I reckon that you can tell a true country boy from the way they're always looking for the perfect stick!

And thats why they've always got a knife in their pocket!

(fast forward to 10 minutes in)


 
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Surprised nobody has linked to british blades, great site for knifemaking. I've carried a simple Swiss Army knife everyday for the past ten years or so, if I leave home without it has the same feeling like you've forgotten your mobile phone. I'm a spark so if I don't have snips I can use it to cut a bit of cable, open boxes or packaging, Put batteries into the child's Christmas toys, open a beer, remove a splinter.
I don't like using it for food prep or gutting animals as there's places for nasties to hide so I have a few fixed blade knives for that sort of thing but as someone else said they've never been used as a weapon or designed to be used as one and never hurt anything that wasn't already dead. I have a sog powerlock somewhere and it is a great multitool but a crap knife.


 
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When I was a boy I had a Swiss Army knife. I didn't kill anyone, but then again all I used it for was sharpening sticks for pointless reasons as you do being a kid. Now I am grown up I really do not ever come across a situation where I really wish I had a knife, apart from in the kitchen. I do have a Stanley knife too for DIY stuff that stays in a tool box, and a pencil sharpener for sharpening pencils.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 8:33 am
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The only thing I use a stanly knife for these days is scoring pork skin for good crackling ๐Ÿ™‚

It's all about the right tool for the job.
The small ones of these are great for outdoor cooking stuff, is it fine for me to carry these around?
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Posted : 05/01/2014 8:47 am
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A ball of baling twine and a opinel knife were the first free tools giving to me on the first day of my first job.

Folding that knife after use was always something you took your time and respect with.

After using it daily for nearly 20+ years, I managed to snap the blade trying to lever a tiny washer off a tractor, was so gutted back then.

The blade was completely worn, the handle still smooth to the touch, the locking ring seized up many years before with gunk, but it was funny for the next few weeks how I went round patting my left pocket, not to feel it there, whenever I needed to use it.

I have seen farmers with pocket knives that have been passed down from their parents, treat them like their most treasured possession...


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 10:22 am
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I have an opinel, which I'd take camping, just not for everyday life. Each to their own I suppose.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 10:28 am
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Does anyone have an EDC kit? Got a bag in the car with knife, MT, first aid kit and mask, couple of torches and spare batteries, paracord, fire lighter, glow sticks. Perhaps not so important in the UK but here in Oz you can be miles from anywhere and better to be prepared.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 11:32 am
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Perhaps not so important in the UK but here in Oz you can be miles from anywhere and better to be prepared.

I know sometimes you can be at least a mile away from a cold beer or a good Shiraz ๐Ÿ™‚
Most people in Oz still live in cities or towns on tarmac roads.

Prepare when you need it but most will never be far enough out to.


 
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I've got to 38 years, and spent a wee bit of it in the outdoors, and I've never felt the need to carry a knife. I feel so inadequate now, reading this.

I'm not against knife carrying per se, not at all, but I have never really heard an argument that justifies carrying one?

I think you have read a multitude of arguements for carrying a knife. As stated for gutting a rabbit etc and my mushroom knife. I think maybe you just don't want to listen therefore you won't here. Or in this case taking your hands from over your eyes would help!

Chopping an apple or cutting cheese? Really? Do these people not have teeth?.
don't tell me you haven't used a knife to cut up cheese or for that matter an apple. That is just bollocks

Educate me please
pointless if you refuse to be


 
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paracord,

Where did you get the para cord from? I piled in on my last jump and I reckon missing para cord in my rigging lines was contributetry factor!!!


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:44 pm
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Just to add to the debate, one of the pocket knives I carry around is probably a hundred years old. It's been languishing in a drawer for almost as long as I can remember, and the blades were very rusty and pitted, but a bit of work cleaning it up and it's a useful little knife. Very basic, one blade and a pointed can opener, with nickel side plates. Made in Sheffield, of course.
How do I know it's age? It has the date 1917 engraved on it, and the name of its owner, and Arras, where he was killed, aged 19.


 
Posted : 05/01/2014 12:54 pm
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Another discussion which sounds like some people are living on another planet.
I think I must have at least two dozen different types of knives for use outside kitchen and I don't even hunt. Knives for outdoors stuff (Opinels do not last, neither do Leathermans as a single tool), knives renovation / carpenter stuff, couple of Swiss army knives ( must have lost ten of those over the years ) and couple for others for misc stuff.


 
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I use a pocket knife most days at work ....carpenter/roofer/builder.. Wouldn't be without it ...


 
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550 Paracord from online - ebay is cheap usually. Always have cord and zip ties in my bike bag. Even took cord when I went on hols - made a washing line!

Mike - yeah most people LIVE in towns but in WA it doesn't take long before you're out in Woop Woop! Rather have stuff with me and not use it than not have it and need it. Plenty of space in the back of the forby so a little bag with a bit of kit is useful to me.

And Leatherman don't last? Depends what you're doing with them. Not had a problem with any of mine and the warranty is decent if they do fail.


 
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Just winding you up Aphex but it does play into the must own a 4l v8 truck incase there is sand on the drive thing...

Anyway WA is woop woop....


 
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Prompted by this thread I went looking for a decent Sheffield steel kitchen knife, it's a shame that there do not seem to be any UK manufacturers anymore.


 
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[url= http://www.sheffield-made.com/acatalog/Kitchen_Knives.html ]A few Sheffield knives here[/url]


 
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And Leatherman don't last? Depends what you're doing with them. Not had a problem with any of mine and the warranty is decent if they do fail.

Leatherman tools do not tolerate twisting motion as well as a typical knife with spine extending through handle. The Leatherman warranty is extremely good one (covers user errors like these) but it will not help if you are in the backcountry with broken tool.
Surprised comments about Opinel knives, I thought they were meant for baguettes and smelly cheese only...


 
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