[Closed] Why do people do it!!

My mate used to park illegally in uni car parks, they couldn't clamp him etc so used to stick really sticky notices to his window. Really hard to get off. What about one of them saying 'I park in disabled spaces without a permit.'

Good job somebody is trying to do something about it. One of those petty things that annoy me disproportionately.

It's called a sense of entitlement.

Were they fat?

I worked in Retail for a couple of years after leaving school. I don't envy you, most people are fine, but there are some real ar$eholes out there.

Just try to pity them and be glad you are not them.

I generally think of them being mentally disabled

We have the same issue here in the US and it really burns me to see people do that as well. A few months ago, a friend of mine who works at Best Buy, along with another co-worker went out and let all the air out of the tires on a car they had watched park in the handicapped area (driver was a young, fit guy about 18 and no sticker or handicap).

There's a disabled space outside my shop - I have great fun taking pics of the terrible parking:

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As management of the store surely you could refuse them entry into your store if they are abusive? It just seems a bit strange that they feel they can be abusive like that to you after you providing parking for them and then they expect to walk into your store without challenge. If it were a pub for instance im sure they wouldnt be allowed entry or get served. Just an idea, let them fill up their basket/trolley then explain at the checkout that they are not getting served due to their behaviour. It would make them think.

John Terry is not fat

[s]I worked in Retail for a couple of years after leaving school. I don't envy you, [/s]most people are fine, but there are some real ar$eholes out there.

That's the way of the world I'm afraid.

Good on you, and shame on them, I say.

At out local Tesco there's a cash machine, right by the entrance. And [i]always[/i] there's someone parked there on the double yellow lines. It's not a big deal, but it leaves a tight gap to get through, leaving less margin for error and a greater likelihood of accidents with only a few inches spare either side, and it blocks traffic from getting into, and more importantly, out of spaces.

Not a hangable offence by any means. But I always wonder why nothing is ever done about it. Sometimes I'm tempted to have a word with people myself...99% of the time, there's several parking spaces available right next to them.

You have gone to the POlice?

Do Tesco not treat threats against its staff seriously then? Given that you are presumably CCTV'd up and have his registration plate I would expect there would be enough to act on. Certainly Tesco would be free to ban him from the store which is probably a proper PITA.

to which i was threatened and he said i should be careful when going home,

I'm sure you could report this to the police as threatening behaviour or intimidation. Its bound to have been caught on CCTV and if you have the Reg then im sure the police would be interested.

Alternatively you could do what I did to the obnoxious brand new CLK driving Charlie Uniform November Tango who I had a similar discussion with, which is remove all four valve cores and leave a note on the screen saying

'you might not be disabled but your car is'

I think the single most satisfying one however was at the local Tesco Express where there is a disable bay right next to the cash machine and Dominos which is obviously used to nip to both. One day some chav kid was parked there when the police arrived. Cue chav kid being cocky to the Police officer when challenged on his parking. This did not go down to well as the Police officer proceeded to go around the car spotting defects, bald tyres, over tinted windows etc, culminating in the officer uttering the words 'this is our car now, we'll arrange for it to be towed' and nicking the youth on the spot (not sure what charge).
All accompanied by a small crowd clapping and cheering. Made my day.

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Alternatively you could do what I did to the obnoxious brand new CLK driving Charlie Uniform November Tango who I had a similar discussion with, which is remove all four valve cores and leave a note on the screen saying

'you might not be disabled but your car is'

Good on you, OP.

Why not insist on them doing their shopping while confined to a wheelchair? or on crutches, or blindfolded. Make them think twice about abusing the spaces.

Maybe not the blindfolded bit, that would be a bit dodgy when they drove away...

99% of the time, there's several parking spaces available right next to them.

Those are the same people that will drive around a big parking lot for 10 minutes to find a space just vacated that is near the entrance--burning gas/$$ in the process of being lazy ##ses.

The world is full of idiots O.P.

Even after working in Halfords to graduating in Physics. You still meet planks in a laboratory.

Now I realise planks can have children who are also young people without manners too.

They are like a virus that spreads.

Those are the same people that will drive around a big parking lot for 10 minutes to find a space just vacated that is near the entrance--burning gas/$$ in the process of being lazy ##ses.

Or key your car for parking in "their space" outside their house. 👿

I think the French have a good sticker on the parking spaces for disabled, something along the lines of "take my space, take my disability"

TBH I have a vested interest in this as my wife has MS and is confined to a wheelchair but we only park in a blue badge space if its going to be a problem getting in & out of the car as otherwise I don't see the point as I am quite happy to push her wheelchair for miles for the exercise 😉

its totally out of order imo, however i doubt the police would be too interested (re the parking in a disabled bay) as its a private car park.
however, being threatened is a very different matter, the police take a very dim view of that type of behaviour.

'Merica has the same problem! Oxygen thieves that have no physical handicap (the could be mentally handicapped) parking in the reserved spaces. It gets even worse when the weather is bad.

I don't mind one bit if someone without a handicapped license plate or placard parks in the space for a good reason like a short term (but real) injury or taking an elderly relative shopping.

But if I had a dollar for every time that I've seen a completely able bodied person [i]but with a handicapped tag or placard[/i] park in the handicapped spaces, I could buy a damn nice bike! Or two. I can only assume that they have a handicapped family member, and therefore they think that they get to use the space as the handicap must be contagious!

Just playing devil's advocate for those above taking various forms of direct action...
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Car (unmodified) pulls up in disabled bay. Young, fit chap gets out, locks it and walks off. you do whatever was you were going to do to his car, removeing all the valve cores was mentioned above.
He returns 30 minutes later with his disabled elderly mother, obviously having used the disabled bays as these have enough room for her to manouvre around to get into the vehicle. he folds the wheelchair and stows it int he boot.
Is he right to use the disabled bay? Is your view different if you left before you saw him return?
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We don't always know the full story.
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Related topic, I had a knee injury and could barely walk for about 6wks, parking as close as possible to things was very useful. Would I have been allowed to use one? No permit, it takes about 6wks to get one...

I feel your pain. As a customer I see how poorly people in retail are treated generally. I certainly couldn't do it as I think I would be in endless trouble with aggressive and abusive customers.

Just playing devil's advocate for those above taking various forms of direct action...
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Car (unmodified) pulls up in disabled bay. Young, fit chap gets out, locks it and walks off. you do whatever was you were going to do to his car, removeing all the valve cores was mentioned above.
He returns 30 minutes later with his disabled elderly mother, obviously having used the disabled bays as these have enough room for her to manouvre around to get into the vehicle. he folds the wheelchair and stows it int he boot.
Is he right to use the disabled bay? Is your view different if you left before you saw him return?
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We don't always know the full story

In the case of the obnoxious Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo mentioned above, he nearly ran me over pulling in to the disabled bay, and on leaving his vehicle after I had noted the lack of a disable badge I enquired as he had nearly run me over whether he should really display his disabled badge for his quite obvious blindness? He replied with a string of expletives on how 'people like you should get out of the way for people like me' and that he could park wherever he liked. In most cases I usually just take a photo of the vehicle and email it to the local force, however in this November Oscar Bravo Bravo Echo Romeos case I decided it merited more direct action.

A good friend of mine at uni was wheelchair / crutches bound for a lot of the time and had an allocated bay at the halls of residence. One particular individual decided that the blue painted bay matched his car nicely and that that obviously meant that he was entitled to park there. We knew who the disabled bay thief was and again he was a definite Papa Romeo India Charlie Kilo and so did the Uni authorities but they were helpless to stop him. One day someone decided they had had enough an took direct action and painted a Disabled symbol (the white wheelchair one on the badges) on his nice blue bonnet with nitromose.

Strangely enough his complaints to the uni apparently went unanswered and he didn't park there again...

Related topic, I had a knee injury and could barely walk for about 6wks, parking as close as possible to things was very useful. Would I have been allowed to use one? No permit, it takes about 6wks to get one...

Well, I'll be devils advocate this time. If you could barely walk, what the hell were you doing driving?, surely, you'd have been better on your high horse?.

Car (unmodified) pulls up in disabled bay. Young, fit chap gets out, locks it and walks off. you do whatever was you were going to do to his car, removeing all the valve cores was mentioned above.
He returns 30 minutes later with his disabled elderly mother, obviously having used the disabled bays as these have enough room for her to manouvre around to get into the vehicle. he folds the wheelchair and stows it int he boot.
Is he right to use the disabled bay? Is your view different if you left before you saw him return?
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We don't always know the full story.

If you are responsible for transporting a disabled person you can qualify for a permit. Alternatively as another poster above said, park further away where there will be space and enjoy the exercise.

Molgrips hit the nail on the head, entitlement. Some people think that rules set up for the benefit of all don't apply to them.

some people are just selfish ***** who just DGAF

My most recent annoyance was at a theme park. We went in for lunch to one of the pizza / pasta buffets. Shortly after at the next table a family of four arrived, and when sorting out their payment made a big show of paying for the kids and the husband but not the wife because 'she wasn't eating'. Watch this I told the wife. Sure enough, before long they're both eating off the same plate, taking it in turns to go and fill up. The staff were clearly wise and came over and asked them to stop, at which point the wife goes ballistic at the student on a holiday job about how it's overpriced for what you get and she's only eating what's left over anyway. They were asked to pay or leave at which point she wraps up what's left in a serviette and stuffs it in her bag.

Sometimes people are ignorant, but wilful ignorance and having your 'defence' arranged before you're even challenged really pissed me off. Worse was the fact that their kids didn't even break stride and carried on eating while this went on around them, which suggests to me that this is relatively normal for them, and in time for their kids too.

Sounds like you made a valiant effort OP, but the sad fact is that a proportion of the UK populace are tools and don't deserve the air that they breathe!

Print out and stick to their windscreen

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the sad fact is that a proportion of the UK populace are tools and don't deserve the air that they breathe

THIS.

The more people I meet, the more I love my bikes.

Unfortunately there are a lot of @rse holes in this world.

You should definitely report this to your manager making it clear you've been threatened.

The best solution would be for the store to refuse to serve them.

The store may wish to place cones in the spaces which are only moved by a member of staff on confirmation the car has a disabled badge. I suspect you'll only need to do this for a week or so and people will get the message.

😆 @ Houns - I'll be passing that to someone I'm sure will use it.

You work for Tesco's and you're morally judging others. Anyone else see the irony ?

[quote=marcus ]You work for Tesco's and you're morally judging others. Anyone else see the irony ?

No, care to explain?

It's quite common to see people at my local gym/5-a-side centre, driving around in circles looking for a parking spot right next to the entrance, even though there are loads of available spaces less than 100m walk away.

You work for Tesco's and you're morally judging others. Anyone else see the irony?

What a berk

Do tell Marcus?

[url= http://youparklikea****.com/ ]Still one of my favourite websites[/url]

Once put a guy I work with on here...

OP- good on you for speaking out, too many people just let these scum get away with stuff like this. If everyone actually grew a backbone and spoke up they wouldn't be able do it.
Makes me so angry when I see them passing on bad behaviour to their kids.

I ask people to step out of the shop until they have calmed down now, in front of kids/shoppers no problem...It is not our responsibility to deal with the asshats.

Marcus- leave it out, a jobs a job.

Marcus, i don't get your point? Tesco are the second biggest employer in the UK, yes the board make questionable decisions, and planning of new stores etc... but the day to day shift maanger and the colleagues that run these stores provide a service. I get paid well and generally enjoy my work. Its the job that lets me mountain bike in my spare time and enjoy life.

Going to discuss the issues with my boss today, i have a mate that works for europarks, if we could get them in for a month im positive that would make a massive difference, £100 on the spot fines could do a deal where any profit goes straight to our charity of the year.

Might print that *unt picture off and see if we can use that as well 🙂

Why, do we all think that Tesco act in the most morally correct and socially acceptable way when bulldozing stores through the planning system and purchasing products from their suppliers.

I agree with the OP's point

I really don't get all this hatred and vigilantism

Your right Jools lets all just calm down and agree that Marcus is an arse.

Gosh Surfer - someone got out of bed the wrong side this morining !

marcus - Member
Why, do we all think that Tesco act in the most morally correct and socially acceptable way when bulldozing stores through the planning system and purchasing products from their suppliers.

So by that act alone it therefore allows us carte blanche to treat those whom choose to work for said store as we see fit, and not as fellow humans?

Surely a threat is a threat, no matter upon which level it is used?

of course, the disabled spaces are usually right in front of the store.
Might I suggest people take a few seconds to examine cars for lack of disabled stickers and then use the extra wide spaces to push their trolleys through.

And well, those things are heavy and have a mind of their own.

£100 on the spot fines

Good luck in trying to enforce that. (You couldn't)

Still one of my favourite websites

Marcus has a point here. STW is usually full of Tesco haters.

Whilst it contains some outrageous examples some of them are similar to the cyclist with a headcam on looking for something to be outraged about!

This thread is reminding me of The Mail

No I couldn't enforce the fine but euro parks do, they manage the local council car parks and they do impose fines for dodgey parking, I've worked in other stores this system does work, they do have 2 weeks to pay if I remember right.

I would forget the fact it's Tesco but disabled spaces for those that need them.

I'll tell you what pisses me off slightly more than this..

It's the disabled folk who, on discovering that there are no disabled spaces left (or at least, not the space that they consider convenient enough) take it upon themselves to park in one of the few parent and child spaces..

thanks for that

One sunny day I will sit down at my local Tesco with a few cans of special brew, and I will very vocally and offensively persecute everyone I see doing this

Funny thread.

The local Co-Op near me is quite large, has about 6 spaces for disabled and about 20 for "mums n kids" of those spaces that get used the "mums n kids" are always full, not always with "mums wiv kids" but Jonny cum lately types and of those disabled space think I've seen them used very infrequently.

I have seen a "mum wivart kids" been booted out of a space in the "mums supposed to be wiv kids" spaces by the kid who collect trollies.. he was armed with about 20 meandering trollies at the time.

If I were a disabled user I'd simply block the non badge holding car in and get on with my day.

No I couldn't enforce the fine but euro parks do, they manage the local council car parks and they do impose fines for dodgey parking, I've worked in other stores this system does work, they do have 2 weeks to pay if I remember right.

not allways enforceable lots of info on the net about it google parking charge

slightly off topic but the term "mentally handicapped" and the apparent normality of its use in everyday language to refer to an idiot really offends me!

I'm a nobody so it doesn't matter, just saying 🙂

Sadly you can't fine anyone, the only bodies who can impose fines are the police and the council.
Whilst Europarks may have the right to issue fines in council carparks they have no right to fine anyone in a private carpark

Europarks have no more right to ask for money to use your carpark than I do to ask you to pay me for sitting in your chair.

Sadly if you did anything to someones car who was parked (incorrectly) in a disabled bay you'd possibly be up for criminal damage charges.

I couldn't agree more that it is twuntish behaviour of the highest order but I'm really not sure what you can do about it other than ban them from the store.

If you were assaulted I'd be on to HR/Management to see if there is a policy of banning idiots from the store. If you were threatened I'd at least report it to the police..

The people who park in disabled bays, are the same people who bump their X5's onto the kerb half an inch outside the school gates, on the zig zag lines, so little Tarquin and Jemima don't have to actually use their legs.

They simply think that they're so bloody important that the normal rules and norms of society apply to everyone else, the lesser lifeforms, not to them. [i]Their[/i] considerations immediately and rightfully over-ride everybody else's.

In short: I'll just stand still here, while [i]the whole ****ing world[/i] revolves around me!! The worlds full of them unfortunately

It's the disabled folk who, on discovering that there are no disabled spaces left (or at least, not the space that they consider convenient enough) take it upon themselves to park in one of the few parent and child spaces..

I have a child - I'm perfectly happy to park in a normal space if it means someone with a disability can actually get to the shops. But then I have a small car, and don't have the pushchair equivalent of a SUV or a sense of entitlement because I managed to successfully breed.

Sever the selfish ****ers spinal cords and let them park there every day? If that seems a tiny bit harsh / illegal, those super sticky windscreen notices are probably the next best thing. You can inconvenience and piss them right off without actually causing damage or breaking the law.

Using a vehicle as a weapon, verbal abuse or threats of violence towards staff should always be reported to the police. Don't put up with it.

I did it last night. It was raining. It was 9:30pm. The car park was empty. In the grand scale of things I dont see the big deal.

Parking Vigilantes at the ready...

LOL.. good for you ben yer jumped up 'nana..

when you have a couple of lively kids round your ankles, and a baby or two to hoik out of the motor, plus a weeks shopping to deal with, at the end of another crushingly busy day, on your third night without sleep, it's nice to know that you can park the trolley up next to the car, out of the way of traffic, and that you can safely disembark kids and cargo with maximum efficiency..

I guess that your child's mother does most of the parenting and shopping.. 😆

It's especially galling at our local store where you can see disabled spaces in abundance, yet some overweight middle aged guy is making a tired and harassed young mum wrestle her kids through a busy car park so that he can reduce the distance that he has to drag his sweaty arse by parking in one of the handful of parent and child allocations..

I don't have a sense of entitlement because I managed to breed, but because the sign above the parking bay indicates it..
what gives you your grossly misplaced air of superiority..?

FWIW my original post was a bit tongue in cheek.. 🙄

I did it last night. It was raining.

Whilst we're on the subject - people with kids aged 8 and above who park in P&C spaces thinking they're all entitled. WTF? It's for SMALL kids you bloody idiots.

FWIW my original post was a bit tongue in cheek

And so was mine 🙂

But I don't understand - are you objecting to people who have a real disability using P&C spaces when they need to, or are you objecting to lazy people using them 'cos they're closer to the door?

Of course we both know the real problem with Parent and Child parking is the people who seem to think that their 15-year-old who has more facial hair than I do counts as a child.

Oh, and I do most of the shopping and all the driving...

IMO the answer to the OP's original question, is that there are no consequences to the actions taken by the offenders other than the threatening behaviour and trying to use a vehicle as a weapon etc. Those incidents should be reported immediately to the Police.

The manager should ban anyone who threatens staff from the store.

But I don't understand - are you objecting to people who have a real disability using P&C spaces when they [s]need[/s] want to

I think that yes, I am really.. Can they not wait..? Now a young mum might have to wait instead.. I don't understand the apparent hierarchy that you're suggesting..

and I'm objecting to overweight blokes with disabled badges.. I'm certainly objecting to people with 15 year old kids and I'm all for firing selfish lazy people into space from a cannon..

To stretch the debate slightly. Once inside Tesco anyone who is mobilty-impaired or visually-impaired has a hard time of it with displays reducing the aisle space to manouevre in, and the shelf lables and displays are difficult to read for the VI. Acessability extends beyond the car park.

Firstly sympathy to the OP

Secondly try talking to the local Police about support over this. I heard of one force that was trying to decide what Police should in spare moments.

One tactic was running checks on people using disable parking places. It was something like 1 in 3 where known to the Police and 1 in 4 had outstanding arrest warrants!!!!

I don't understand the apparent hierarchy that you're suggesting

I'm suggesting that someone who has a disability which means they cannot manage with a normal space takes priority over someone who just finds the extra space useful.

Can we mention the people who, while I'm loading up the car with shopping and offspring, sit and wait and if I'm not going fast enough honk the horn?

Can we mention the people who, while I'm loading up the car with shopping and offspring, sit and wait and if I'm not going fast enough honk the horn?

My local Tesco has a talking sign in the middle of all the P&C spaces, that spouts a polite message about them being reserved for customers with children bla bla.

I'm amazed at the number of people who still physically travel to an actual shop 😯 .. how very 20th-Century 😀

Properly important/lazy/middle-class people get their food picked, packed and delivered directly to their mouths by slaves.

I heard of one force that was trying to decide what Police should in spare moments.

Find my stolen bike please!

are you objecting to people who have a real disability using P&C spaces when they need to

On a similar vein: how do we feel about people using a vacant disabled loo when the others are full?

I'll admit I'm quite partial to a [i]handicrap[/i] (when I'm not inconveniencing someone obviously) The cubicles are more spacious, they tend to be a lot cleaner, and they often have nice comfy thrones and armrests 😀

my first port of call !!

On a similar vein: how do we feel about people using a vacant disabled loo when the others are full?

How do you get your car in there?? 😆

Binners: "They simply think that they're so bloody important that the normal rules and norms of society apply to everyone else, the lesser lifeforms, not to them. Their considerations immediately and rightfully over-ride everybody else's."

This and the OP's point are symptomatic of the overhwelming sense of entitlement and superiority that so many drivers have over pedestrians / cyclists (see other thread) and each other. Years of subtle social propaganda suggesting their superiority is related to their car. Rant over.