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Gosh Surfer - someone got out of bed the wrong side this morining !


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:43 am
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Why, do we all think that Tesco act in the most morally correct and socially acceptable way when bulldozing stores through the planning system and purchasing products from their suppliers.

So by that act alone it therefore allows us carte blanche to treat those whom choose to work for said store as we see fit, and not as fellow humans?

Surely a threat is a threat, no matter upon which level it is used?


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:43 am
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of course, the disabled spaces are usually right in front of the store.
Might I suggest people take a few seconds to examine cars for lack of disabled stickers and then use the extra wide spaces to push their trolleys through.

And well, those things are heavy and have a mind of their own.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:46 am
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£100 on the spot fines

Good luck in trying to enforce that. (You couldn't)


 
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Still one of my favourite websites

What a strange site. 😐


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:48 am
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Marcus has a point here. STW is usually full of Tesco haters.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:52 am
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Whilst it contains some outrageous examples some of them are similar to the cyclist with a headcam on looking for something to be outraged about!


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:54 am
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This thread is reminding me of The Mail


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:54 am
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No I couldn't enforce the fine but euro parks do, they manage the local council car parks and they do impose fines for dodgey parking, I've worked in other stores this system does work, they do have 2 weeks to pay if I remember right.

I would forget the fact it's Tesco but disabled spaces for those that need them.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:55 am
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I'll tell you what pisses me off slightly more than this..

It's the disabled folk who, on discovering that there are no disabled spaces left (or at least, not the space that they consider convenient enough) take it upon themselves to park in one of the few parent and child spaces..

thanks for that

One sunny day I will sit down at my local Tesco with a few cans of special brew, and I will very vocally and offensively persecute everyone I see doing this


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:55 am
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Funny thread.

The local Co-Op near me is quite large, has about 6 spaces for disabled and about 20 for "mums n kids" of those spaces that get used the "mums n kids" are always full, not always with "mums wiv kids" but Jonny cum lately types and of those disabled space think I've seen them used very infrequently.

I have seen a "mum wivart kids" been booted out of a space in the "mums supposed to be wiv kids" spaces by the kid who collect trollies.. he was armed with about 20 meandering trollies at the time.


 
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If I were a disabled user I'd simply block the non badge holding car in and get on with my day.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:58 am
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No I couldn't enforce the fine but euro parks do, they manage the local council car parks and they do impose fines for dodgey parking, I've worked in other stores this system does work, they do have 2 weeks to pay if I remember right.

not allways enforceable lots of info on the net about it google parking charge


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 9:58 am
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slightly off topic but the term "mentally handicapped" and the apparent normality of its use in everyday language to refer to an idiot really offends me!

I'm a nobody so it doesn't matter, just saying 🙂


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:08 am
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Sadly you can't fine anyone, the only bodies who can impose fines are the police and the council.
Whilst Europarks may have the right to issue fines in council carparks they have no right to fine anyone in a private carpark

Europarks have no more right to ask for money to use your carpark than I do to ask you to pay me for sitting in your chair.

Sadly if you did anything to someones car who was parked (incorrectly) in a disabled bay you'd possibly be up for criminal damage charges.

I couldn't agree more that it is twuntish behaviour of the highest order but I'm really not sure what you can do about it other than ban them from the store.

If you were assaulted I'd be on to HR/Management to see if there is a policy of banning idiots from the store. If you were threatened I'd at least report it to the police..


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:08 am
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The people who park in disabled bays, are the same people who bump their X5's onto the kerb half an inch outside the school gates, on the zig zag lines, so little Tarquin and Jemima don't have to actually use their legs.

They simply think that they're so bloody important that the normal rules and norms of society apply to everyone else, the lesser lifeforms, not to them. [i]Their[/i] considerations immediately and rightfully over-ride everybody else's.

In short: I'll just stand still here, while [i]the whole ****ing world[/i] revolves around me!! The worlds full of them unfortunately


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:15 am
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It's the disabled folk who, on discovering that there are no disabled spaces left (or at least, not the space that they consider convenient enough) take it upon themselves to park in one of the few parent and child spaces..

I have a child - I'm perfectly happy to park in a normal space if it means someone with a disability can actually get to the shops. But then I have a small car, and don't have the pushchair equivalent of a SUV or a sense of entitlement because I managed to successfully breed.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:19 am
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Sever the selfish ****ers spinal cords and let them park there every day? If that seems a tiny bit harsh / illegal, those super sticky windscreen notices are probably the next best thing. You can inconvenience and piss them right off without actually causing damage or breaking the law.

Using a vehicle as a weapon, verbal abuse or threats of violence towards staff should always be reported to the police. Don't put up with it.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:27 am
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I did it last night. It was raining. It was 9:30pm. The car park was empty. In the grand scale of things I dont see the big deal.

Parking Vigilantes at the ready...


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:29 am
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LOL.. good for you ben yer jumped up 'nana..

when you have a couple of lively kids round your ankles, and a baby or two to hoik out of the motor, plus a weeks shopping to deal with, at the end of another crushingly busy day, on your third night without sleep, it's nice to know that you can park the trolley up next to the car, out of the way of traffic, and that you can safely disembark kids and cargo with maximum efficiency..

I guess that your child's mother does most of the parenting and shopping.. 😆

It's especially galling at our local store where you can see disabled spaces in abundance, yet some overweight middle aged guy is making a tired and harassed young mum wrestle her kids through a busy car park so that he can reduce the distance that he has to drag his sweaty arse by parking in one of the handful of parent and child allocations..

I don't have a sense of entitlement because I managed to breed, but because the sign above the parking bay indicates it..
what gives you your grossly misplaced air of superiority..?

FWIW my original post was a bit tongue in cheek.. 🙄


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:31 am
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I did it last night. It was raining.
and the extra 10seconds of walking in the rain from a normal space would have drownded you? Don't believe in parking vigilantism and I'm not going to flame you for it but you can't justify it with that excuse I'm afraid.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:33 am
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Whilst we're on the subject - people with kids aged 8 and above who park in P&C spaces thinking they're all entitled. WTF? It's for SMALL kids you bloody idiots.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:35 am
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FWIW my original post was a bit tongue in cheek

And so was mine 🙂

But I don't understand - are you objecting to people who have a real disability using P&C spaces when they need to, or are you objecting to lazy people using them 'cos they're closer to the door?

Of course we both know the real problem with Parent and Child parking is the people who seem to think that their 15-year-old who has more facial hair than I do counts as a child.

Oh, and I do most of the shopping and all the driving...


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:43 am
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IMO the answer to the OP's original question, is that there are no consequences to the actions taken by the offenders other than the threatening behaviour and trying to use a vehicle as a weapon etc. Those incidents should be reported immediately to the Police.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:48 am
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The manager should ban anyone who threatens staff from the store.


 
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But I don't understand - are you objecting to people who have a real disability using P&C spaces when they [s]need[/s] want to

I think that yes, I am really.. Can they not wait..? Now a young mum might have to wait instead.. I don't understand the apparent hierarchy that you're suggesting..

and I'm objecting to overweight blokes with disabled badges.. I'm certainly objecting to people with 15 year old kids and I'm all for firing selfish lazy people into space from a cannon..


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:54 am
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To stretch the debate slightly. Once inside Tesco anyone who is mobilty-impaired or visually-impaired has a hard time of it with displays reducing the aisle space to manouevre in, and the shelf lables and displays are difficult to read for the VI. Acessability extends beyond the car park.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 10:57 am
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Firstly sympathy to the OP

Secondly try talking to the local Police about support over this. I heard of one force that was trying to decide what Police should in spare moments.

One tactic was running checks on people using disable parking places. It was something like 1 in 3 where known to the Police and 1 in 4 had outstanding arrest warrants!!!!


 
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I don't understand the apparent hierarchy that you're suggesting

I'm suggesting that someone who has a disability which means they cannot manage with a normal space takes priority over someone who just finds the extra space useful.

Can we mention the people who, while I'm loading up the car with shopping and offspring, sit and wait and if I'm not going fast enough honk the horn?


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 11:20 am
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Can we mention the people who, while I'm loading up the car with shopping and offspring, sit and wait and if I'm not going fast enough honk the horn?
was sorely tempted to honk when after waiting patiently whilst a lady loaded up her kids and shopping then sat in the drivers seat for [s]a few seconds[/s] ages, presumably fannying about with her phone. Tempted, but in the end I just parked elsewhere.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 11:45 am
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My local Tesco has a talking sign in the middle of all the P&C spaces, that spouts a polite message about them being reserved for customers with children bla bla.

I'm amazed at the number of people who still physically travel to an actual shop 😯 .. how very 20th-Century 😀

Properly important/lazy/middle-class people get their food picked, packed and delivered directly to their mouths by slaves.

I heard of one force that was trying to decide what Police should in spare moments.

Find my stolen bike please!


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 11:50 am
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are you objecting to people who have a real disability using P&C spaces when they need to

On a similar vein: how do we feel about people using a vacant disabled loo when the others are full?

I'll admit I'm quite partial to a [i]handicrap[/i] (when I'm not inconveniencing someone obviously) The cubicles are more spacious, they tend to be a lot cleaner, and they often have nice comfy thrones and armrests 😀


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 12:36 pm
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my first port of call !!


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 12:37 pm
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On a similar vein: how do we feel about people using a vacant disabled loo when the others are full?

How do you get your car in there?? 😆


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 12:40 pm
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Binners: "They simply think that they're so bloody important that the normal rules and norms of society apply to everyone else, the lesser lifeforms, not to them. Their considerations immediately and rightfully over-ride everybody else's."

This and the OP's point are symptomatic of the overhwelming sense of entitlement and superiority that so many drivers have over pedestrians / cyclists (see other thread) and each other. Years of subtle social propaganda suggesting their superiority is related to their car. Rant over.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 2:44 pm
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Sports club near me used to put signs up saying 'Stupidity is not a disability'...always made me laugh!


 
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I'm all for firing selfish lazy people into space from a cannon

The world would be a very empty place if this happened ...


 
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yeah but I'd get a free ride in a cannon.. 😀


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 2:56 pm
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I've ranted on here about the guy who works opposite a few times.
He has a badge but can also run, climb ladders and carry heavy loads.
When I tried to grass him up, the relevant authorities informed me that he may have a disability that is not visible. "Such as? "I asked. He may be blind was the reply. At that point I gave up.


 
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is it for his wife..?


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 3:05 pm
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I'm making a couple of assumptions here but first of all if the car park is private property owned/leased by the business and you have (signed and marked) rules for how it is to be used by customers this can be enforced; ultimately as it's private property you can refuse access to your store or ask them to leave the car park or even call the Rozzers if they refuse/get abusive... Right?

Secondly, as much as it falls to your Management Team to ensure this policy is enforced it doesn't necessarily fall to managers to confront these arse-holes directly in every instance, doing so appears to be placing you/them under greater risk of injury (I doubt getting run over by some irate tosser in a hurry for some Donuts is actually in your JD), I expect you have a security firm contracted to deal with security issues on your site, You can't miss them these days, they'll be the tubby buggers sat looking at a couple of monitors (these days placed right next to the entrance) and eyeballing everyone who enters the store in an effort to make us all more aware that we are being watched (I assume)...
If anyone under your management is "Qualified" to deal with dificult aggressive or violent individuals it's supposed to be your security team, task them with enforcing the rule/ejecting those who fail to comply...

And as a side note, if you do work for any large organisation and need to vent your anger about certain minorities within your customer base on an open public forum, its probably best not to name the actual organisation [I]"A large Retailer"[/I] may have been a wiser choice of words...


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 3:16 pm
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It may be but I've never seen anyone near the car apart from him.
I did have a word with robo traffic warden and he told me that badges were being handed out to people with ADHD.


 
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And as a side note, if you do work for any large organisation and need to vent your anger about certain minorities within your customer base on an open public forum, its probably best not to name the actual organisation "A large Retailer" may have been a wiser choice of words..

Why? tesco=evil empire according to most on here, but here's someone from said evil empire trying to take some action about something that boils most people's piss.


 
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Sports club near me used to put signs up saying 'Stupidity is not a disability'...always made me laugh!

🙂

I've also seen "Can't Park Straight Is Not A Disability"


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 3:28 pm
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Are people with ADHD allowed to drive if they've been diagnosed as such? 😯

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