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I’m not advocating any lessening of the welfare state but we do seem to have spawned a group of people to whom authority means nothing and their behaviour doesn’t have seem to have consequences. Maybe they’ve always existed.
I wonder if olly2097 would prefer either their person or their ‘authority’ to be respected? Maybe both?
It’s interesting nonetheless that you automatically connect ‘welfare state’ to the attacks. Are your arseholes unemployed because they are arseholes, or are they arseholes because they are unemployed?
Where are the figures that show the employment-status of the attackers?
Does this mean we are looking forward to more arseholes on the attack as the casualties of Brexit, CV19, automation, outsourcing etc etc continue to mount? Would arseholes be more respectful of ‘authority’ if the state provided modern workhouses/‘work for benefits’ schemes?
Plenty of arseholes have jobs, being a selfish dick isn't only reserved for the unemployed!
Plenty of arseholes have jobs, being a selfish dick isn’t only reserved for the unemployed!
There’s truth in that statement.
This is more than arseholes, deserve people rising up and dealing with it.
There have always been aresholes but there appear to be more now than I can ever recall and their behaviour is considerably worse.
In response to Dr J's post and question - I don't know.
On the rare occasions when a court case ensues I could write the script - apologises, out of character, going through stressful time, broken family, had taken cocktail of drink'n'drugs, just broken up with...you get the picture.
Others have had same/similar experiences and developed into solid citizens.
Having spent a lot of time volunteering in the homeless sector I know there are some people in truly difficult - sometimes desperate - circumstances and still understand what is/not appropriate behaviour but I also know that some have no shame using their circumstances in attempting to excuse their socially unacceptable behaviour.
Easy access to drink & drugs is a growing concern.
For some it's a development of generations of resentment of authority - read that as anyone in a uniform - 3rd/4th generation of unemployment & low achievement; marginalised by society; seeing others achieve; angry and hitting out without understanding or thinking about what they're doing or why. They understand the system and are skilled at gaming it - it's what they know.
Doesn't take away that the fact that we will always have scum in society who don't want to change and the scum are from all sectors of society - all classes and all employment statuses.
The only way to treat them is control, confine, punish.
Also, courts should be much more critical and questioning of defences advanced by solicitors.
Police - under resourced.
Social services - under resourced.
Magistrates - crank the handle and churn cases through court as quickly as possible.
All undermined continually by successive governments cutting budgets and searching for 'efficiencies'.
Grum +1
Doesn’t take away that the fact that we will always have scum in society who don’t want to change and the scum are from all sectors of society – all classes and all employment statuses.
The only way to treat them is control, confine, punish.
Quite the defeatist right wing approach.
Some people are arseholes. People are more likely to behave like arseholes when the systems society is run on leaves them behind. Our system over the last 60 years has progressively abandoned whole sections of our population.
If you have no stake in the system, if it fails to treat you with equality and fairness - how would you behave? I’d like to think I wouldn’t be an arsehole - but in reality, few know how they would behave.