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hi all , i need your collective help

basically im overweight (6 foot and 18.5 stone!) but carry it well so im told .

im in the airforce and because i cant pass my fitness test(bleep test ) im worried im going to get a warning.

i was in cyprus for 3 years and towards the end of my tour i strted to lose a few kilos but it didnt feel like much for all the effort i was putting in.(going to the gym 5 times a week for an hour and doing loads of cardio and weights)

since ive been back in the uk my fitness has gone to **** ,probably because im depressed about the crap job im doing (sat round most of the day) and im starting to feel really lethargic and tired all the time.

i tried to start a new routine but failed almost straight away as i come down with the mans flu bug and feel like crap .

im deperate to loose some of the weight and get myself fitter for my kids sakes as i dont want to be one of these daddy who cant play footy with them as hes too out of breath .

i dont smoke, never have done and i hardly drink.

i do like my food though.

got plent of time on my hands but really struggling to get motivated .

the only excersie i do at the moment is ride my bike on sunday mornings and walk the dog every nite.

where do i start.???

cheers

steve


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 9:45 pm
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Endurance running!

Carry on eating, but eat healthy. Just run 10 + miles at a high heart rate 3 times a week (or aim to work up to that). Your fitness will go up and you will lose weight.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 9:49 pm
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Eat less. Move more.


 
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forgot to add that i have real problems running and have had duoble anterior compartment syndrome problems for quite a while.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 9:52 pm
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renton, some of us are always gonna be big mate.
i am 6ft4 and 21 stone.
i have dieted and trained my ass off. i got down to 18 stone.
i was hungry constantly and put the weight back on.
i can ride all day on any terrain, no problem.
i commute to work every working day of the year 14 miles a day.

sometimes you have to accept who and what you are.
i love to turn up to ride with people i have never met, only to get the 'who's this fat bloke trying to ride a bike' only to be still spinning at the side of em 5 or 6 hours later.

fat can be fit mate.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 9:53 pm
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Its all about the food dude, take it from me, I am 15 stone 6 foot and find it difficult to shed the fat until I maintain a healthy diet combined with the exercise (currently riding four times a week). I am also partial to the odd drink so cutting that makes a difference as well.
Cut out the fatty foods for a month (nothing fried), reduce the red meat intake, no snacks between meals, less dairy -all pretty basic stuff but makes a hell of a difference - I should stick to my own advice a bit more having said that - right im off to chew on some carrot sticks.........


 
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ton - hope you don't mind me asking - what age are you ?

...feel free to tell me to **** off... -)


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 9:59 pm
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cheers for the nice words ton!!!

i never fry owt , my meat is always grilled.

my food for the day goes like this....

breakfast:-
orange juice
coffee 2 sugars
toast(2 slices)
cereal(cornflakes or readybrek)3 spoons of sugar

mid morning

packet of crisps
2 slices of malt loaf
penguin choccy bar

lunch
4 slices of bread making chicken and coleslaw sarnies
crisps
choccy bar

tea
whatever the wife cooks but usually
somthing with oven chips

just by listing that i can see it rubbish

help!!!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:02 pm
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iainc, 42 mate
i played rugby league at a high standard from the age of 16 to 34.
my weight was between 17 and 18.5 stone over that period.
i competed in age group triathlons at 17 stone.
i have always been big, but always been okish at endurance type sport.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:05 pm
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ton like you i can ride my bike all day at a steady pace but ask me to do some sprinting and im ****ed very quickly!!!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:07 pm
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tortoise/hare.


 
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It's all about diet, not exercise. Exercise makes us tired and hungry - not good conditions for controlling what we eat! Make sure that you limit the calories going in. Exercise only burns energy from food recently eaten (which is why we can 'blow up' on a long ride when the muscle glycogen runs out), and fat is only burned when the body is deprived of it's usual energy source (enough food). It is not possible to exercise intensively on stored fat. That energy you're sweating out is from the food you ate that day. Cut out the middleman and simply eat less.

Building fat fast and releasing it slowly is a life saving biological process - as used by all mammals. We build and store fat very efficiently, because excess energy consumed is put away by the body for times when food runs out - which it would do if we lived in the wild, but will never do with supermarkets and pizza delivery. The fat is to cover periods of starvation (like the winter in the wild), and will only be released slowly as an emergency energy source. None of this potentially life saving resource will not be given up to an hour in the gym, or even four hours on the bike.

Avoid all sugar. The body's fat burning process is called ketosis, and ketosis doesn't happen whilst simple sugars are being digested. Control your calories down to less than 1,000 per day and avoid sugar. It worked for me.

I lost 13kg (over 2 stone) in 8 weeks this spring, simply by bearing these facts in mind and acting accordingly. I went from 14 st to (at my lightest point) 11 st 11 lbs. My waist went from tight in 36 jeans to comfy in 32s - all in a couple of months. It is possible to lose weigh, if you just take notice of the biology.


 
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That's a shit-load of food!

My food today:

Breakfast: small bowl of Cheerios with honey, cup of tea
Mid-morning: piece of home-made chocolate brownie with a cup of tea
Dinner: two wholemeal buns with tune and sweetcorn, two plums, satsuma, apple and a cup of tea. Plus a Twix and another cup of tea
Tea: Chinese take-away (chilli chicken and chips), two cans of Becks

This is the wrong day for me to post my meals for the day 🙂 Normally it's as above but without the Twix and with a pasta bolognese or something for tea.

I'm a naturally-skinny 5'11" and 12 stone. Like Ton says some people are naturally bigger than others, but eating loads of crisps won't help! Listing what you've eaten and realising that it's rubbish is probably the best first step. Why not make step 2 taking some fruit to work to eat instead of the crisps, malt loaf and choccy bar? Little steps...


 
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If you want to burn fat, do your training in the fat burning zone: long and slow. Really not sure about your condition, but it sounds like a word with the Doc is in order before you start anything new.
Have a google for Philip Maffetone....


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:13 pm
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This is what you could maybe do

cheers for the nice words ton!!!

i never fry owt , my meat is always grilled.

my food for the day goes like this....

breakfast:-
orange juice
coffee 1 sugar or canderel
toast(2 slices)
cereal(cornflakes or readybrek)

mid morning

handfull of mixed nuts

lunch
4 slices of bread making chicken and coleslaw sarnies
fruit

tea
whatever the wife cooks but usually
somthing with oven chips

just by listing that i can see it rubbish

help!!!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:15 pm
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Cut down on the carbs.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:17 pm
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ton,

well I'm same age, a lot lighter although still a bit more than I should be and secretly quite happy I couldn't make Gt/Inners at NY, eevn though it's my 'local' -)

good on ya....


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:17 pm
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Renton,

To start cut out the sugar from your coffee & cereals. Add a bit of museli to your cornflakes instead. Cut out the mid morning snack, eat some fruit if you are hungry. Cut out the crisps and chocolate bar from your lunch. A high sugar intake will give you spikes of energy and then leave you feeling lethargic.

K


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:18 pm
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As has been said previously controlling the calories is the only way I find that works. In my experience, reducing this will make you feel less lethargic. The only way I have succeeded in this is by using a food diary. Currently using thedailyplate.com which is helping me to be more aware of what passes my lips. & hopefully helping me reach my target in the great STW fat club!!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:20 pm
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today i ate

bacon/spam/tomato buttie

savory cheese/ham buttie
crisps

fish n chips
4 slices of bread

about 10 teas/coffees with 1 sugar in each.

i am a bad bad man.... 😈


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:21 pm
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It doesn't matter what the food is, carbs or fat or protein. It's all calories and you need to contol them to a certain limit so that you're always in energy deficit. You body will make up the shortfall by using ketosis to metabolise the stored fat.


 
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it does matter what the food is - I only successfully managed to lose weight with a low carb diet. Although it seems to be a key thing that I feel less hungry when eating less carbs. Hard to combine with doing lots of exercise though.


 
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Try eating more soups. They keep you full for longer and discourage snacking.

Also, do you have time to go night riding? Just thought biking might be more enjoyable than that soul-destroying gym stuff.

Maybe go riding by yourself more anyway - you'll stop to chat less (hopefully!)


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:32 pm
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soup keeps you full, are you mad

PIE keeps you full mate.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:33 pm
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Man, you lot eat a load of crap!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:39 pm
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to true glen
any tips to change me.


 
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renton

drop me an email at chinecap at h0tma1l d0t c0m - I may have a couple of pointers for you - being taller, nearly as heavy and in a related field of work. Give me a shout.


 
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oh

ton

you really eat crap and seem to want to perpetuate being 'the big bloke who can'. You are not going to last long.


 
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This is what works for me:

Don't drink or drink very little alcohol
Eat every 2 hours or so but only small snacks/meals
Eat no bread/ very little carbohydrates
No butter/margarine
Skimmed milk
No sugar
Eat lots of fruit and veg
Eat oily fish as protein
No chocolate

A typical snack would be one banana, one tangarine, low fat yogurt and small quantity of walnuts

Basically when ever I'm hungry between larger meals I eat fruit with yogurt.

Due to injury/operation my cardio has been and continues to be quite limited and I've put on weight.

Following above diet in one week, and going to the gym every other day (with 30mins stationary bike plus weights), I've lost 1 pound in weight and 1 inch off my waist, which is the key - don't lose weight too quickly and measure your waist for accurate progress as you might be losing fat but gaining muscle.

Hope this is of some help but you really have to be disciplined and can't cheat with snacks of crisps, chocolate etc.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:51 pm
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tootall
that is what i ate today
i actually eat pretty good.

and you my friend do not know anything about me.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:52 pm
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*shrugs*

its how you come across on here

*shrugs*


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 10:58 pm
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too tall, i tell the truth and speak my mind.

if you do not like it mate

a, ignore it
b, do not post about it.


 
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Ton, hopefully without trying to sound a cock, why post about it yourself, if you want people to ignore it?


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:04 pm
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GI Diet - made sense and worked for me

Oh! And long llllllloooooonnnnnnngggg cycle rides.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:05 pm
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glen, i was telling tootall to ignore it mate.
if he did not like or agree.

i post because someone like me was asking advice, which he seemed happy with.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:07 pm
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.......Control your calories down to less than 1,000 per day and avoid sugar. It worked for me.....

Is that even healthy? Or for that matter sustainable as a long term solution?

Not having a go, just curious.


 
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It isn't. 1000 calories a day is not enough for an active person. You do need more calories out than in to lose weight obviously, but less than half what you should be eating is not sensible, healthy or sustainable.


 
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In my twenties, I weighed 8 stone, and always wanted to put on weight. I'm 5'4 1/2". I would easily eat more than some of the daily amounts above. At one point, I was worried I had worms. If I didn't take on loads of calories, I would feel faint, on long bike rides. Friends just could not believe where all the food went. I once got told off by the staff, in a Chinese restaurant, for taking too long to finish. They were wanting to serve desert, and I was finishing off all the stuff that was left. It was like a pig at a trough. Obscene.

When I worked as a cycle courier, it just went mental. Mind, I was doing quite a few miles a week, at a very quick pace.

But I was always active; cycling, swimming,gym, footy. Always on the go. Only when I got past 30, and my metabolism slowed, did I put on weight. I now drink a lot more than I used to, but still get regular exercise. I weigh 9 stone and rising, and aim to put on a bit more, although I will be keeping it firm with swimming 3 times a week.

I know 'big' people who can put on half a stone just looking at a picture of a cake.

Strange thing, the human body...


 
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I love my food way too much! Had cheese slice and corned beef on toast for breaky, pasta and a piece of cake for lunch and chippy chips for tea, with some chrimbo chocs as a treat! :o(
bad day today, feel an extra chin comin on and only got 2 days till next fat club way in!


 
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p.s. you can calculate energy requirements here:

http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/CalRequire.html


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:18 pm
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Isn't there a way of checking to see how many calories you need to maintain the weight your currently at?


 
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p.p.s I've just calculated with that thing that on a day with a big ass ride, I need more that 6000 calories!


 
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Cheers glenh, was thinking about basal metabolic rate just couldn't remember what is was! Mine is 2133 cals per day!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:22 pm
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Start the day with porridge and it will stop you snacking mid-morning. Cut down the carbs too.


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:31 pm
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Renton

Hope this is of some help

When I gave up rugby (injury) I was around 18 stone and just over 6 foot tall. Which as a prop playing at a high level was pretty good dimensions

I took up biking to fill the void and quickly realised that if I wanted to be any good at it and keep up with my mates I needed to change shape. That was my motivation (I hate my mates beating me at anything :-)_

A few things helped me do that

- As above make sure you know in your head why you are trying to lose weight and make sure you really want to.

- Cut out some of the crap from the diet (bag of crisps and dessert with evening meal worked for me). It was a struggle for a few days until I realised that it was just habit. I quickly stopped missing/craving those things. Your list above has a few things you could quickly cut out. Just try and imprve other little things in your diet and minimise snacking.

- Drink less alchohol. I personally still enjoy a drink but I certainly cut back a little

- Give yourself a goal. Enter an event for example. Motivates me to ride more anyway.

- Move more. Not sure where I heard this but as a 'rule of thumb' it works - don't drive if you can ride, don't ride if you can walk and don't walk if you can run.

I lost ~ 5 stone in about a year (about 4 years ago) and have stayed around the new weight ever since. Once you get going it becomes easier and you feel a lot better.

Good luck!


 
Posted : 14/01/2009 11:34 pm
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Make changes to your lifestyle (diet & exercise) now that you can carry out until the day you die! no fad exercise and diets just healthy living, you will soon see the benefits.

i wont list exercise routines and diets etc as theres a million options to suit your needs but the key to success is to choose things that you enjoy that you can continue with, dont be afraid to change and experiment as variety is important to keep motivated.

dont do a rocky. start off slow with the exersise as you dont want to feel tired and burnt out and be susceptible to colds all the time but it is essential that you do exercise frequently, it can be short like 30-45 mins and doesnt have to be intense but do try to get a longer actvity in at the weekend.

if you do intense activity for long periods you will have a tendancy to over eat afterwoods.

If you exercise like a nutter and have a strict low cal diet you may end up looseing weight quicker to start with but the second you stop the weight will pile back on!


 
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This is what i got from that online thingy

1975 - BMR (Calories)

1276 - Activity (calories)

3251 - Total (calories)

that sounds bad if i'm consuming over 3000 kcal or does it mean i'm consuming 1975 kcal and burning 1276 kcal


 
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sounds like you really want to make a change - a really good start! it's going to need hard work, so some grit will be crucial.

despite their reputation, [b]the PTIs aren't out to get people[/b], and are there to help. that's the job the queen pays them to do! if you go in to see them with the right attitude you'll be amazed how much help they can give - it'll hurt though, gotta be prepared for that.

a lot of the advice above is really good. porridge for breakfast is ace. cutting out midmorning snacks is important. if you can't go without entirely, remember there's more calories in those sneaky chocolate biscuits than a banana... so why not have the banana; it'll fill you up more and have less fat in it. plus it'll fuel you up for the magic ingredient...

[b]you really need to go and do circuits, three time a week[/b]. they must run them in the gym - pretty much every station does. it'll get you away from your desk, plus your line manager will see you making the effort, and rather than bitching about you being away from your desk, they should be keen to do what they can to help too. should help the appraisals!

you'll be amazed the range of fitness you'll find at all-comers circuits; you're not the only one in your situation. sure there'll be so really fit guys, but the circuits are set so you work at your own pace

good luck, hth!!


 
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my food for the day goes like this....
breakfast:-
orange juice
coffee 2 sugars
toast(2 slices)
cereal(cornflakes or readybrek)3 spoons of sugar

Breakfast isn't too bad (don't be tempted to go without) but too much sugar. Skimmed milk would be best (try UHT it tastes better believe it or not). Mix skimmed and semi-skimmed during the weaning-off process.

mid morning
packet of crisps
2 slices of malt loaf
penguin choccy bar

Cut out the crisps and penguin bar. Have some fruit if you're still hungry.

lunch
4 slices of bread making chicken and coleslaw sarnies
crisps
choccy bar

Sorry but the mayo's got to go, along with the crisps and choccy bar. Pack another sandwich, or maybe some fruit or more malt loaf. If you relly have the chocolate cravings then pack a few pieces of dark chocolate with a high (70 percent or so) cocoa content.

tea
whatever the wife cooks but usually
somthing with oven chips

I wouldn't worry about the oven chips - if it's processed food (eg pies) then that's likely to be where the fat is.

Apart from that, cut out the booze (sorry) and get out on your bike. Can you ride to work - if only one day a week?


 
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Tails, IIRC your BMR is the amount of calories your body will burn if you do nothing at all at your current weight, just by resting! your activity burns another 1276 cals, so if you consume 3000 cals you have burnt more cals than you have consumed and in theory should lose weight!


 
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Forget the fads, like has already been said, burn more calories than you eat. But that's not always easy to put into practice unless you're some kind of health guru. The following works, but you must stick to the rules, the hardest part was on a Sat night and not being able to pop open a cold bad boy 😮

This will take the fat off but longer term you need to better your normal intake or you'll just put it all back on, you can't diet forever 😉

Good luck 😀

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sorry - is it just me who finds it slightly amusing that someone has started a post with 'forget the fads' then posted up the biggest fad diet of all time? 😉

also loved this one:
[i]that's the job the queen pays them to do[/i]
pmsl.

Cut right down on the carbs, up the protein, do more exercise, as many above have posted.


 
Posted : 15/01/2009 8:20 am
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Full sympathy - I used to weigh 15 stone and I'm five foot nothing and a girl ! Down nearer 9 now (it's winter !) and trying to get weight off myself.

The only way that really works is to loose the weight slowly and change your lifestyle permanently.

Different things work for different people, we all know the physics of calories in/calories out but it can be hard to stay motivated. Best advice I ever had was to look at the times when you do eat badly and what triggers that. If you eat when watching tv then don't watch tv, play with your kids or something instead.

Try lots of different exercise, swimming if you can't run, do a variety of session.

Also, a friend of mine is Officer in the RAF and he mentions all the time that in spite of being given work time for it his men don't exercise (!!) I would kill for a couple of afternoons a week in work time to train. So mebbe speak to your CO ?

And, cut out all those sugars and the chips that will drop about 800 calories a day.

Good luck mate.


 
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Forget faddy diets. ( except perhaps take note of hi and low GI foods). Its really simple - you need to burn more calories than you eat.

You need to train your stomach to feel full on less food - this takes time as your stomach needs to physically shrink so you will have to accept feeling hungry for a while. High fibre foods can help in this.

You are a big chap so need more calories than a smaller chap as your body burns more than a smaller chap just in staying alive. You should be aiming for a weight loss of no more than a couple of pounds a week. Starve yourself too much and your body goes into famine mode which actually makes weight loss harder and weight gain easier.

My advice would be go to your GP and ask for a referral to a dietitian. DO NOT CONSULT A NUTRITIONIST Dieticians are registered and qualified, anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. There are good nutritionists out there but many are total charlatans - see McKeith for one well know charlatan.

Balanced diet, ditch the sugar and exercise. Get professional help.


 
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This is all very interesting.

I can't really comment, at 30 I am very skinny and very active and can (and do) eat a lot of rubbish and just a lot of food without really putting much on.

Recently though I have been off the booze completely. That's taken 5kgs off me from a starting weight of 70kgs tops. I hadn't really noticed I'd got spare weight but I don't now want it back.

I reckon the problem bits for me are booze, choccies, crisps and takeaway. This is all stuff that I get through when I'm feeling flat and tired, and am working too hard and really need exercise and sleep instead. I do try (often without success) to note that, and to lay off that stuff and drink water/eat fruit instead when I can bear to.

The other thing (which has stuck with me from the marvellous ST articles from t'other year about real fitness for ordinary people) was to do with accepting that you're sometimes going to be hungry, and not feeling that you must eat immediately just because you are. If you tell yourself at 11am when you want a twix that plenty of people in the world spend all day feeling absolutely ravenous and don't come to any huge harm then it makes getting through until lunchtime without the twix easier. 🙂

Anyway, best of luck.

Jon


 
Posted : 15/01/2009 8:55 am
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I've gone from well toned 14.5stone down to 12stone then upto a horribly out of shape 15.5stone all over the past 5yrs.

My old suits down fit right- the shoulders are really too big yet the trousers are waay-too tight. I decided enough is enough- for the past 6weeks Ive gradually adjusted my diet (V.SLOWLY)- firstly I stopped drinking lager and redwine on a regularly basis (but kept on eating my fried butties), still have redwine as an odd treat. Then when I was happy/used to drinking just vodka again I started to cut down on the fried butties. Basically I have an addictive personality and if I tried cutting everything out at the sametime I'd bounce back again. So now I am addicted to Vodka and Porridge (obviously at different times).

I've also cut out all bread from my diet. I still have a big gut however I think this is a food allergy reaction. Im starting to tone up nicely elsewhere and last night I noticed that after riding to the gym I could lift alot more weights and push a great deal of reps again.

For me, its a very very slow process. Patience.

All the best Renton.


 
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What is this 'redwine' of which you speak?


 
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T'is the nectar of life.


 
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That's taken 5kgs off me from a starting weight of 70kgs tops

Blimey Jon, it's a bit windy out today so you might want to stay inside 🙂


 
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is it anything like red wine?


 
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Here's my take from my experience over the last year, where I have lost 21kg. I'm not an expert on diet or exercise, or anything like that.

You know what to do, you are a smart guy with access to lots of information. As most posters say, avoid faddy diets, eat well from a nutrition point of view but aim for a calorie deficit. Increase your exercise and include some resistance training ( weights etc.)

What you need is a way to stick to it. And that's the tough part, because most of us find loosing fat hard and uncomfortable. I'm sure some people here don't find it difficult, and they are lucky, but for most of us it's not.

Using negative feelings about yourself as a motivation is not (IMO) the best way to do it. You need a positive mental image to work towards, one that is real and easy to picture. It doesn't need to be a picture of how you look, it might be a mental image of yourself sprinting up a hill past your astonished mates. Finishing a race, shopping for new jeans - whatever you want. Having this image bright and detailed in your mind is invaluable when your hand reaches for the chocolate biscuit, or ask your wife to make healthier food etc.

Just my 2p's worth.

You might think that all this is cobblers but I have found it works for me.

Feel free to contact me if you want any more of this kind of stuff.

Robert


 
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There is an old saying

Eat breakfast like a King, Dinner/Lunch like a prince, Tea like a pauper.

I am 6'4" and I am just under 16 Stone and I want to get down to 14 stone.

Also don't forget muscle weighs more that fat 🙂

Nezbo


 
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[i]Eat breakfast like a King, Dinner/Lunch like a prince, Tea like a pauper. [/i]

Swans for breakfast, venison for lunch, turkey twizzlers for dinner?


 
Posted : 15/01/2009 9:49 am
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I was drinking circa 4 bottles of ridwiine (spelling for AndyP) a week and probably 8 pints of ale. Common sense says knock those empty calories in the head and within another couple of months I should naturally slim down anyway.


 
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I still have a big gut however I think this is a food allergy reaction

Funny

I too still have a gut but this is down to beer, wine and too much healthy food.

Some of the stuff on here is good some is absolute pants. If we get everyone to type - [b]more exercise / less calories[/b] you'd be on your way. Starving yourself does not work - IIRC ketosis uses your muscle tissue before the fat so not really very usefull if you still want to ride your bike. I know this is a bit 'out there' but have you thought of something like weight watchers or Slimming world? They set you realistic targets and give you advice on good/bad food choices and how much you should be eating to lose a sustainable amount each week. Just a thought.

Good luck


 
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I am still shocked at less than 1000 calories a day comment, with my breakfast of 1 low fat yogurt, 1 serving of granola and a coffee you are at 750 odd, so you would barely be able to eat anything else all day


 
Posted : 15/01/2009 10:11 am
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hugo rune - yes. I had a Colonic and the poor lass said I had alot of trapped wind (nothing else). She talked bolloxs about everything else but if I was constantly full/bloated with trapped wind then surely (common sense)- I was reacting to something I eat.


 
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i do like my food though.

That's all you need to sort.

Stick to salad, veg (excluding potatoes and other starchy root type things) and hunks of dead animal (and eggs). Drink water (or low cal soft drinks if you must).

That's it. Job done.


 
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I had a Colonic

More than we needed to know 🙂


 
Posted : 15/01/2009 11:12 am
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does anyone else have the problem that they never feel full? it drives my missus nuts that I can eat a huge meal (including over christmas, the full mean + pudding) and still not feel at all full.


 
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But do you feel full a bit later (stuffed even?).


 
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sorry - is it just me who finds it slightly amusing that someone has started a post with 'forget the fads' then posted up the biggest fad diet of all time? [;)]

My irony detector blew up so it is not just you.


 
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I read somewhere (probably Mens Health - so it must be true) That it takes 10 minutes from when you are actually full for your stomach to realise and send the message to your brain. The helpful food nazi's out there recomend drinking a pint of water before your meal to trick your stomach into sending the full messages a bit earlier. Also if you stop eating before you feel full you won't end up feeling like your going to pop.


 
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I'm thinking of keeping a food diary so i can monitor my food intake better, does anyone know where i could get one i could just print off?? I'm a bit of a computer numpty so not able to make one myself without resorting to good old fashioned pencil and paper! :o(


 
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I used to weigh 15 stone and I'm five foot nothing and a girl ! Down nearer 9 now

Hels Bells! (Sorry!)

That's a pretty remarkable achievement, and one I'm sure could only be achieved through sheer determination and hard work. Well done. I'm sure that could be an inspiration to many people.

When I see grossly obese peole, I can't help thinking they would be far happier, if they could lose weight. Sadly, so much 'false happiness' is pushed at them, through TV and the media, that they don't know a way out. But a lot of it is simply down to pure laziness; I saw a young woman, t'other day, getting in a lift at the train station. The lift for disabled people, or those with prams, heavy luggage etc. She had a small handbag, and looked to have normal physical movement, although she was a fair bit overweight. I just thought 'no wonder you're fat, you're too ****ing lazy to climb a flight of stairs'. Sadly, people like this just don't realise the damage they are doing to themselves. In 10 years time, without a change in lifestyle and attitude, she will probably be well obese. And it won't be anyone's fault but her own.


 
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nope not even after 30-45 minutes (which was when I heard the messages goes through) I will try the pint of water thing to see if that helps. It is a bit odd, but I can almost eat until I puke, and still not feel full until that point.

I am going to try the livestrong dailyplate to see how many calories I am taking in (793 already today)


 
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My daily intake for the 6 weeks up to christmas:

Brekky:
1 coffee, 1 sugar. (25 cals?)

Lunch:
Baked spud or sarnies (250cals average)
Pack of crisps (~150cals)
Coffee (25)

Tea:
Stir fry chicken or turkey with 1 teasp of olive oil (210 cals), including half a bag of salad (50cals) and half a pack of sauce (50 cals). Yep, every day. I tend to forget what I've eaten by the next day so it makes no odds.
Pudding:Muller fruit corner (190cals).

Knocking about the house at night - apple. (50 cals).
2 more cups of coffee (50 cals)

So thats a daily intake of....

1050 cals. Explain to me how I GAINED 2lbs in those 6 weeks?!? I went out for beers once I suppose!


 
Posted : 15/01/2009 11:35 am
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I'm on 270.

Bowl of porridge (170) with a little milk (50 ml)(25) and a little (about 10ml = 25) maple syrup

Apple (about 50)


 
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don't worry some skinny bastard will pipe up in a bit saying how he eats chips for every meal, and is still 6 stone.

granola seems to be my downfall at 598 a serving, I will switch to porridge I reckon.


 
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[i]Baked spud or sarnies (250cals average)[/i]
the world's smallest baked spud?


 
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