Who’s the biggest s...
 

Who’s the biggest spreader of disinformation on X?

28 Posts
20 Users
9 Reactions
1,402 Views
Posts: 33603
Full Member
Posts: 9158
Full Member
 

Space Karen and his army of bots?


 
Posted : 16/11/2024 12:35 am
Posts: 56883
Full Member
 

I would only think that was an ‘unexpected answer’ if you were particularly dense.

When Turkey-boy bought Twitter it was funny to watch him throw his billions away. Now you realise it wasn’t really about the money at all. He wants to be what Murdoch was in the era where everyone got their news from newspapers, but yet be far far worse than Murdoch.

I suspect we’ll shortly be looking at The Dirty Digger as a quaint little rank amateur when it comes to corrupting the diplomatic process


 
Posted : 16/11/2024 12:46 am
Posts: 10418
Full Member
 

He wants to be what Murdoch was in the era where everyone got their news from newspapers, but yet be far far worse than Murdoch

Elliot Carver.


 
Posted : 17/11/2024 12:02 pm
white101, crossed, petefromearth and 2 people reacted
Posts: 6832
Full Member
 

Trump.


 
Posted : 17/11/2024 12:04 pm
Posts: 14827
Full Member
 

Not wanting to absolve Musk in any way, but isn't the AI just picking up that he gets the most criticism for spreading false information, versus the AI actually verifying what he says is true or false. He's had the most people say the stuff he says is false but I'd wager there are loads of accounts that post way more false stuff, they're just not as visible or high profile


 
Posted : 18/11/2024 1:33 am
Posts: 30512
Full Member
 

they’re just not as visible or high profile

So not spreading their disinformation to as many people? Hence not the biggest spreader of disinformation.


 
Posted : 18/11/2024 4:57 am
Posts: 7485
Free Member
 

Not sure why the bullshit generated by a chatbot is relevant to the question....


 
Posted : 18/11/2024 6:39 am
Posts: 1679
Free Member
 

It's so fascinating that Musk seems to have been radicalised by his own algorithms. I mean, I assume his feed is subject to the same algorithms as everyone elses and they've sent him down this right-wing conspiritorial rabbit hole he's stuck in.

It's like watching a 1990's tobbaco company CEO dying from lung cancer after taking health advice from his own lobbyists.


 
Posted : 18/11/2024 8:06 am
Posts: 34117
Full Member
 

I see Grok has now turned into a child porn bot

even the telegraph are outraged, not at sexualised images of kids or anything obvs, they on   ly get upset when its their beloved kate

Screenshot_20260105-195515.png  


 
Posted : 05/01/2026 9:44 pm
kelvin reacted
Posts: 77719
Free Member
 

At least they've taken it seriously.

https://archive.is/LIuBf

Oh.


 
Posted : 06/01/2026 12:59 am
Posts: 33603
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Posted by: kimbers

I see Grok has now turned into a child porn bot

even the telegraph are outraged, not at sexualised images of kids or anything obvs, they on   ly get upset when its their beloved kate

I’ve been aware of this for at least a week, maybe longer, it’s been popping up in my Flipboard feeds for a while, but I guess the traditional news media are only just waking up to it, which is why they’ve become largely irrelevant when it comes to news.

The difficulty lies in determining what is real reporting, and what is lies generated by various ‘AI’ chatbots, or reactionary politicians with money to make and countries to invade. 😒


 
Posted : 06/01/2026 4:30 am
 MSP
Posts: 15606
Free Member
 

I thing the biggest funders of AI misinformation would be, in order

 

1. The US oligarchy

2 Russia

3 Israel

4 China

 

I think there is a large crossover between the 1st 3 in the methods and "bogeyman" they blame creating an extreme amount of similar disinformation content even though their end games may not be fully aligned

It is incredible to me that any government who believes in democracy are doing so little to fight this disinformation, this is not a war that can be fought in secret behind closed doors, it is a war that has to be fought in full public view the first line of defence has to be informing your citizens about the misinformation how to spot it and highlighting prime examples when uncovered. But I see non of that happening. I know the Czech republic were doing some of this ten years ago but I have seen very little information about it in the news cycle ever since.

That makes me believe they are largely not even fighting the war, and it begs the question why? It was no surprise that the tories tried to brush it under the carpet, with the money they took from Russia and being ostensibly aligned with the aims of the western oligarchy, that would also include the CDU/CSU in Germany and clearly the populist right wing parties across Europe.

But what about the claimed centrist parties, are they so right wing as to also be aligned. Starmer and Mertz are falling head over heels to facilitate the power of the wealthy over the rest of us. Would investigating the impact of Russian finance and interference also reveal the amount of Israeli money flowing into parliament and labour?

Or is just the whole world of politics so incept and corrupt that we are just powerless, is western democracy just becoming a bigger sham day by day as we walk into the sea and command the tides to stop?


 
Posted : 06/01/2026 5:39 am
steveb reacted
Posts: 9178
Full Member
 

Looks like it has been decided Musk poses too great a threat.

Grok can be manipulated and thats the crux of this.

 

So who are driving the influence on it for it to go off on a Hitler rant ?.

 

Antisemitism. Currently the No1 reason to get you cancelled or have the authorities act against you on hate speech laws.

This maybe hasnt had the desired effect as unlike the upper echelons, there is still a high proportion of antisemitism in the far right and white nationalist supporter group base.

Next best attack strategy  is kiddie porn. Pretty much 99.9% of the population will get behind that accusation. 

But they're always going to have problems making anything stick as Grok is pretty much operating as its own entity

 

Ai's take

"There has been no official, collective decision by a government that Elon Musk poses too great a threat, but many security experts and politicians in the US have expressed serious concerns about his influence".

 
Posted : 06/01/2026 7:12 am
Posts: 8689
Full Member
 

The thing that's really disappointing is that, knowing that the algorithm will down-rate their posts, that most/many of the 'engagement' is with trolls and bots, and now that Grok is a device for misogyny and CSAM, HMG will not amend its strategy re: use of Twitter.

https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mboskzsges2h

HMG also appears not to have done any work into how effective Twitter actually is as a communications channel

https://bsky.app/profile/robblackie.bsky.social/post/3mbosx3swnk2q


 
Posted : 06/01/2026 10:30 am
Posts: 33603
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Posted by: MSP

is western democracy just becoming a bigger sham day by day as we walk into the sea and command the tides to stop?

The point **** was making was that while he was King, his power was nothing compared to that of God, so I’m not entirely sure what point it is you’re trying to make.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 3:25 am
Posts: 33603
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Posted by: MSP

Posted by: MSP

 

is western democracy just becoming a bigger sham day by day as we walk into the sea and command the tides to stop?

 

 

The point **** was making was that while he was King, his power was nothing compared to that of God, so I’m not entirely sure what point it is you’re trying to make.

Really? Is STW’s swear filter now blocking the name of a king of England? Honestly, this is crass stupidity, it’s behaving as if we’re all a bunch of ten year old kids!

This level of censorship completely devalues the point of my comment, because it becomes more difficult to  understand what I’m talking about. It’s C n u t , sort it out! 🤬


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 3:35 am
Posts: 8689
Full Member
 

Posted by: CountZero

Is STW’s swear filter now blocking the name of a king of England?

Doesn’t work in the email alerts though…


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 6:54 am
Posts: 1
Free Member
 

I would only think that was an ‘unexpected answer’ if you were particularly dense.

When Turkey-boy bought Twitter it was funny to watch him throw his billions away. Now you realise it wasn’t really about the money at all. He wants to be what Murdoch was in the era where everyone got their news from newspapers, but yet be far far worse than Murdoch.

I suspect we’ll shortly be looking at The Dirty Digger as a quaint little rank amateur when it comes to corrupting the diplomatic process


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 8:25 am
kelvin reacted
 MSP
Posts: 15606
Free Member
 

The point **** was making was that while he was King, his power was nothing compared to that of God, so I’m not entirely sure what point it is you’re trying to make.

 

I thought the point was fairly clear from the context of the whole post, that democracy no longer works, that our votes appear to have no more impact than commanding the tides to stop. We seem to be unable to get change because the politicians are ignoring what we want and need and just serving "capital" before people. Capital has become god the politicians no longer just see it as part of the world, they see it as the whole world, to be put before the health and lives of the voters.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 9:30 am
Posts: 17881
Full Member
 

Well today it's the White House.

 

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/2008600144741277775


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 10:52 am
kelvin reacted
Posts: 23184
Full Member
 

35 minutes on YouTube 35 minutes on Facebook/Messenger 11 minutes on Instagram 7 minutes on TikTok 5 minutes on Snapchat. If the UK government wants to scale down on Twitter than it's really not a problem for directly reaching people.

twitter (currently known as X) is more of a media phenomenon than a social media force. Its share of the social media sphere has always been quite small. But it just happened to be the case that in the early days of twitter it was the SM channel of choice for journalists - both for input and output. Journalists tweets were a useful means of rapidly reacting to stories in real time but that made journalists feel that a tweet from someone else was a meaningful source - effectively treating tweets as press releases.

The fact that twitters reach within the wider population was actually quite small meant that reporting things that people as tweeted did actually serve as news - even though to a great extent they were actually re-reporting something that the sender of the tweet had already told everyone who wanted to hear it.

But it means theres always been a secondary audience for twitter elsewhere on social media and in the press even though many users have rejected it.

We still give Twitter much more reverence than it due - largely due to commentators boldly wading into what we all know is now a cave full of troll so they can tell us is a cave full of trolls. Grok in particular - as its USP - that it trains itself on users tweets - means it basically a machine that eats its own shit.

The current stories of Grok-generated child porn tells you more about Twitters users than the AI itself. In the same way that guns don't kill people AIs don't give the prompts or publish the outcomes.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 11:13 am
Posts: 23184
Full Member
 

.....


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 11:40 am
Posts: 8689
Full Member
 

Posted by: maccruiskeen

But it just happened to be the case that in the early days of twitter it was the SM channel of choice for journalists - both for input and output. Journalists tweets were a useful means of rapidly reacting to stories in real time but that made journalists feel that a tweet from someone else was a meaningful source

This is the issue - MPs and political journalists both on there, so its media reach is far higher than its actual reach.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 11:42 am
Posts: 30512
Full Member
 

In the same way that guns don't kill people AIs don't give the prompts or publish the outcomes.

This is only half the story. Grok is not purely an aggregate of its users, it is set up and controlled. Absolving the owners of public facing LLM is the biggest mistake ahead of us. And will be used to avoid regulation and give their owners more control, more power, more riches, to the detriment of us all.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 11:49 am
Posts: 11388
Full Member
 

apparently I'm now permanently banned for this, 😆 tell me again who has the power to silence their critics?

@NoahsArk1000 @ItamarGvir I’d tie his pigtails to the bus then go for a long drive till all that’s left Is a lump of tissue

 

my response was to a picture/tweet reposted by those above of an idf soldier with the image of dogs in the background in Palestine scavenging on the corpse of a kid with the caption "the idf are even feeding stray dogs"


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 2:19 pm
Posts: 7765
Full Member
 

Posted by: misterjordan845

When Turkey-boy bought Twitter it was funny to watch him throw his billions away. Now you realise it wasn’t really about the money at all

I think that is crediting him way too highly since it does beg the question why he wanted to get out of it?

The timeline points at him spending a lot of time on it, buying a small portion and wanting a big say and then impulsively deciding to buy it when he wasnt given the amount of say he wanted. Then realising it was a bad plan but not being able to weasel out of it.

The cash he contributed to various campaigns was far more important.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 3:37 pm
Posts: 8947
Free Member
 

Decided to rework the Grok logo - in an entirely obvious way of course for which I make no apology -  to better reflect the company's culture.


 
Posted : 07/01/2026 8:21 pm