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As a lifelong labour supporter I've seen some Turkeys, and then loved every minute of the whole Tory William Hague/Ian Duncan Smith/Michael Howard shambles, but...
BUT... Ed ****ing Milliband. Lord, give me strength. My 4 year old daughter would make a better fist of being 'Leader of the Opposition' than that poncey half-wit
Somebody give him a bottle of whiskey and a revolver. Its pathetic to witness. And perfect timing. Just when we don't really need someone with a bit of authority challenging the government. His brother looked like the work experience kid. He can only dream of measuring up to such lofty descriptions.
Your nominations please.....
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Has to be Blair.
Bankrupt the country, lied to the country, illegal wars.
I rather agree on Ed M. Pointless individual.
all Liverpool managers since 1990 but Rafa was my favourite
ed is the Labour parties IDS moment
RealMan ended the thread before it had begun!
Godwins law has already been invoked!
How long have you got?
José Luis Zapatero.
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Who bears an uncanny resemblance in looks, mannerisms and ability to do anything to Mr Bean.
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It was inevitable.
call me dave has to be up there doesn't he ?
failing to secure a majority in the last general election given the state of the economy, the general unelectability of brown, the unpopular wars etc etc.
pretty woeful really.
Aaaaaaaah Junkyard. I miss Rafa. There's nothing like hearing Old Trafford in full song. FAT SPANISH WAITER! YOU'RE JUST A FAT SPANISH WAITER! FAT SPANISH WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITER 😀
Ed Milliband? Oh yeah, almost forgot about him. Have we ever had a more low profile leader of the opposition. One can only hope that he is secretly plotting a masterstroke that will kill off "Call Me" Dave and "Blowjob anyone?" Nick in one fell swoop. Sadly though, I doubt it. I like to think that he is still rather bewildered over how he managed to pull off winning the leadership contest in the first place.
Ed is really very bad. Watch him flopping around like a dead fish on the strikes today, just awful. Doesn't dare to have an opinion, "Well the strikers are bad but so is the government". He's trying to do the David Cameron say nothing then you can never be wrong thing, but he's useless at it.
Blair was shoddy. Hitler was incredibly succesful as a party leader, just not so good at the not murdering people thing, then not good enough at the conquering the world.
Thatcher was a demon-possesed s**tec**t but I suppose she was a good leader.
Ed Milliband seems absolutely bewildered that he's a party leader. The rest of the labour party know it and are having nowt to do with him, so they can bide their time for the inevitable leadership contest, which.. please god... happens before they lose the next election
I know, I'll be decisive. I'll anounce 30 different 'policy reviews' to form what kind of opinion I'm meant to have on stuff. Embarrassing. IDS looks like Churchill in comparison
Emperor Justinian. Controversial.
I guess the jury's still out on Nick Clegg then. Halving his party's support overnight obviously doesn't cut the mustard.
Michael Foot is the most useless political leader in my lifetime - and it's not close. Great man, but eminently useless leader of a mainstream political party.
If you subscribe to various conspiracy theories that he was installed by progressive labour MPs to kill the socialist wing of the party, the longest suicide note in history etc, then he wasn't useless at all from that PoV.
Campbell Bannerman
Don't be mean to Nick, you'll make him [url= http://nickclegglookingsad.tumblr.com/ ]sad[/url]
Although joking aside, I wouldn't be surprised of clegg dropped down dead, or turns Kilroy-Silk mad, he looks utterly ****ed these days
Ed Milliband, pathetic and wet. God knows what Labour thought in voting in him as leader when others would have been better suited to lead them back into power.
George Bush and the evil twins; Gordon Brown and Tony Blair all leaders by some freak of nature that we will all suffer from for decades to come.
Junkyard - Kenny Dalglish didnt leave until Feb 1991...
Anyway, surely Il Duce was more useless than Hitler
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Milliband - weak and vacant.
very funny thread guys. obviously we all know anybody elected to public office has to be next to useless at everything. the concept that someone is a genius because they belong to one party and yet another is an idiot because they belong to a different party is as ridiculous as suggesting one football team is in some way superior to another because they're called united rather than city.
good stuff. keep it coming.
saying that ;-), blair, while clearly smart, was absolutely useless. what a pathetic man.
All of them except Dear Leader.
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Nasty, sad little man.
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And this guy:
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Of whom it was famously said:
1. That he was so stupid he couldn't fart and chew gum at the same time.
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2. That he'd spent too much time playing football without a helmet.
two words.. micheal foot
Michael Foot being 'useless' as party leader
Worth listening to - I only wish we could still hear this sort of stuff
http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/historic_moments/newsid_8195000/8195545.stm
Foot was a great orator, but in a PR, image concious world he was a disastrous choice for leader.
IDS for me, with Billiam Vague a close 2nd.
This guy, captured on film demonstrating exactly [i]why[/i] he was useless, for posterity.
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I think that Justinian was pretty effective as an Emperor.
My money would be on Thatcher. She may have got what she wanted so successful on that level, but took the UK backwards culturally, economically, morally etc about 250 years, so staggeringly unsuccessful on a wider level.
Trotsky ended up pretty ineffective too once Stalin got him in his sights. Not sure if he counts as a prty leader though.
Thatcher was never useless. Very easy to disagree with her policies but she was visionary in much of what she did and had more balls and conviction than any of the shower we have had since.
This guy, captured on film demonstrating exactly why he was useless, for posterity.
Why do you say that ?
what she did and had more balls
it doesn't take balls to destroy people, just megalomania and a total lack of compassion
Pretty inevitable that after hugely influential leaders like Thatcher and Blair you get numbnuts like Major and Brown, and then after defeat the second-raters set up for failure like Milliband (I can't even remember the names of the Tory ones).
Having said that, Cameron isn't exactly impressive. Not sure what happened in the cycle there.
King John. More hereditary than political I grant you, but he was a leader (of sorts) and left an interesting, albeit unintentional, legacy. His apalling judgement led to the loss of his continental posessions thus forcing England to stand on its own two feet rather than exist as some remote vassal state, ultimately paving the way for the dominance of centuries to come. And then there was Magna Carta... sometimes you have to be crap to do good!
Jim Callaghan was pretty hopeless too
Chamberlain's legacy divides political historians to this day, so it's asking a bit much for wee woppit to say anything sensible about it.This guy, captured on film demonstrating exactly why he was useless, for posterity.Why do you say that ?
This guy, captured on film demonstrating exactly why he was useless, for posterity.
Hindsight is very nice but at the time that picture was taken nobody had actually experienced the kind of war we were about to have and it was genuinely believed that in the first night of the blitz alone half a million civilians would die.
In the year that he delayed our entry into the war we built our Spitfires and our Anderson shelters and evacuated our children from the cities. We built the factories that would supply our forces. The preparations we made for war in that year were immense, and that lead time in terms of both strategy and production were invaluable. And it was our building and manufacturing strategies as much as our fighting that won.
In that year Hitler also started his invasions so it became clear what his actions would be rather than what his rhetoric was. And that was very important, with some people, not least the Daily Mail (still owned by the same family incidently) openly backing Hitler up to the point where he started to play his hand we wouldn't have gone into the war with the universally held moral superiority that we needed. That kind of moral superiority that we[u] don't [/u]have in Afganistan or Iraq for instance. As it was though our men would cross the channel carrying just six bullets but know they were doing the right thing.
So, some people think he won the war for us. And that picture up there, thats a picture or a man with a piece of paper in his hand [i]and[/i] terminal cancer. He was dead within a couple of months of leaving office.
Do you think anyone ever suggested to Hitler that the moustache was a mistake?
I don't think he was that bad but this pic makes me laugh...I hate the Sun though
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Do you think anyone ever suggested to Hitler that the moustache was a mistake?
No, it was his choice of gear ratios that were more questionable. It has been said (Stephen Fry so it must be true) that Hitler's mustache was a homage to Charlie Chaplin, even though he knew that the Great Dictator was taking the piss out of him he still wore a Chaplin maustache anyway, so he was being ironic.
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this pic makes me laugh...
yeah, helped give us another 5 years of tory rule and one of the most disasterously inept governments ever.
hilarious.
Foot, brilliant in so many ways, could not lead his party (which makes him useless as a party leader).
Thatcher, despicable in so many ways, led her party very effectively.