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Nope, love it.
Hate all the fiasco before mind, but the day and days after are ace.
Generally people who can put more effort into hating and avoiding then they can to relax and enjoy themselves 😉
I love Christmas.
It's the most wonderful time of the year.
Fairly indifferent to it. We're off skiing over xmas, so will pretty much ignore it.
Eaten a dozen mince pies already.
Doesn't everybody love mince pies?
How about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
I love Christmas. 10 days off, family, food, drink.
But it's way too early to be speaking of it. I won't speak about it in our house until December - other than a few necessary invites and so on
Love it. Was very indifferent to it until i met my wife who adores it and her enthusiasm is infectious. Love the shopping and present buying, love seeing friends, love boozing, love the food, what's not to like?
There's a bloke in here who's cracked his orange already.
Now that's keen.
I'm with flashinthepan. I love it, myself, but it's WAY to early to talk about it.
Save your anti-Christmas sentiments for a few weeks from now, okay? I've got Halloween and two birthdays to get through in my house first!
Best time of the year.
Feel sorry for those that hate it simple because they hate spending money.
PS. I'm aware that some people have different reasons for hating it.
got a 5 yr old son - so I love it
I like spending a solid fourteen hours eating and drinking on the sofa. The rest can **** off.
I like Christmas ..the Mrs & the kids love it..but not in the religious sense ( from my point of view ) .
I do think it is way over-hyped though ..Christmas goodies on the shelves at my local backwater CO-OP at the end of September is taking the p*ss somewhat ..
My favourite part is Christmas lunch ...yum!
We're having unicorn this year.
I thought I'd better get that in before the 'We're too posh for turkey' lot arrive.
I was never especially fussed by Christmas but it is a big thing for my wife and her enthusiasm has rubbed off on me over the years to a certain extent. Moreover, we have two young daughters who love it - so to hate it would be extremely dreary.
Wonderful time
One of the few occasions when people can step away from worshiping at the altar of consumerism and think about what really counts in life ......errrr.....
I usually like Christmas. This one is going to be interesting/tough.
Why's that? ^^^
Like it for the kids and as mentioned aabove the wife and her mum love it but my wife doesnt know when to stop buying, not for money but for the volume. Our youngest is already saying we should buy the house next door and use it as a giant playroom!
Me.
Reasons.
Hate it. With a passion.
Consumerism and Capitalism gone mad.
Glad when it's all over tbh, and we can get back to normal.
Yeah, I hate xmas. Humbug!
Although this year me and the wife and the boy have thrown a tantrum and we're spending it in a secret location several hundred miles away from the rest of the extended family, so I'm expecting it to be a lot less horrific than usual.
All the run up is a load of bollocks of course, but I can avoid most of that by just not leaving the house or watching telly in November and December. I also play a game with myself where I try to avoid hearing That Slade Song before Dec 25th, it's pretty hard, I've only won it once (2015, I wore headphones for most of the month).
but my wife didn't know when to stop buying, not for money but for the volume.
Is your wife my wife? I get the same 'it doesn't look much, I'll buy a few more 'little bits'....
Hate it. With a passion.Consumerism and Capitalism gone mad.
Glad when it's all over tbh, and we can get back to normal.
Genuine unloaded (edit - is 'unloaded' the same as 'not loaded?)question: Would you consider yourself 'happy' the rest of the year i.e. 'normal'?
I like the food and drink, hate everything else about it and the build up to it.
Saw a Christmas tree with "presents" around it in a pub last week. I just don't get it - that's 2 MONTHS early!?
Christmas I like - the commercializing of it, I hate.
It's just awful and like smoking if someone tried to invent it today, it would be banned almost instantly.
Xmas Day is all right, the kids enjoy it, I stay slightly, but not too pissed all day, we've got some outlaws coming over this year, I'll still be glad when it's over. I sound slightly evil - but when everyone else hits the late afternoon sense of anti-climax feeling I want to get on my soapbox and scream "SEE, I TOLD YOU, ITS CRAP, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CRAP AND SPENDING 3 MONTHS GETTING ALL GIDDY ABOUT IT WHILST YOU SPEND, EAT AND DRINK TOO MUCH WONT CHANGE THAT, YOU'RE FOOLS AND DESPITE ALL THIS YOU'LL GLADLY BE FOOLED AGAIN NEXT YEAR YOU MUGS".
Mostly though I just sit there, take a deep breath and count my lucky stars that at least the days are getting longer again.
Speeder - Member
Saw a Christmas tree with "presents" around it in a pub last week. I just don't get it - that's 2 MONTHS early!?Christmas I like - the commercializing of it, I hate.
They're advertising for Xmas 'office dos' rather than anything else, the baying "I loves Crimbo me" office nutter will want that in the bag by the end of Sept so they need to bang them out early.
There's a hotel in Cardiff that has a Xmas window display (aprrox 20ft by 20ft) 12 months of the year now.
Got a 12 year old son and 15 year old daughter so I love it! Soon they'll be off doing their own thing which will make me sad. Get it while you can I say!!!!
Hate is a bit of a strong word, generally I find it unoffensive.
However as a father of two small people I do loathe the influx of light up musical plastic tat that sweeps into the house at that time of year. Would much rather give them money for savings.
Jeez they start the who hates Christmas threads earlier each year.
Without it, winter would be a bit too long.
I used to dislike it (and new year) as it was a break from work that I couldn't choose the timing of.
I now like it because its a holiday that [i]everyone else [/i]is forced to take and that means its the one time of the year when I can take a break and properly relax.
I like Christmas when it's 3-4 days of a bit of family/food/TV/walks and I can do the presents online plus one planned hit on the shops for 1hr max where I know what I'm buying and where from.
I'm not interested in a month long ordeal of consumerism and having xmas tat forced on you and watching pissed people stagger around. I do not want to buy a xmas pud in October either.
and having xmas tat forced on you
I don't think any of it is forced on you - its just 'available'. At the same time the same shops are selling sanitary towels, liver, apples, cat litter, the Daily Mail and cheese strings. Non of which I particularly want or like but I manage not to feel like they're being forced upon me, they're just there.
The people who I feel sorry for are retail personnel..having to suffer the same endless loop of Christmas songs ..how the hell you come out of that with your sanity intact amazes me ..
We used to like it when we were young and poor. We used to save up so we could have stuff that we couldn't usually afford. Sitting at home with the heating on all day, stuffing your face with expensive food was something different.
When the kids came along it made it more fun.
Now we're older and relatively comfortable and the kids have grown up. We could have Christmas Day most weekends if we wanted to so its nothing special really.
stuff to like
week off work, see the family, midwinter feasting and drinking
stuff to dislike
time and money wasted on needless crap
overcommercialisation
vacuous telly
overcommercialisation
people competing about who can be the most christmassy
overcommercialisation
I don't think any of it is forced on you - its just 'available'.
Indeed. Getting worked up about it is like getting worked up about the existence of Wednesdays
I had my first Christmas design request in June, and the last 6 weeks, workwise, have consisted of little else, but I still can't bring myself to dislike it. There are far worse things I could be doing.
The only thing that really irritates me about Christmas is the [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/pubs-to-trial-professional-lanes-2013122082253 ]amateur drinkers suddenly clogging up my local[/url]
Generally people who can put more effort into hating and avoiding then they can to relax and enjoy themselves
Yes, if you ignore:
Family dysfunction/toxic family (yay Xmas)
Homelessness (yay Xmas)
Painful disability/disease (yay Xmas)
Loneliness (yay Xmas)
Those painfully bereaved (yay Xmas)
Broke and/or beleaguered by duty (yay Xmas)
In an abusive relationship...
Abandoned...
Debt-ridden..
Etc
Spoilsports, all. If only they could just relax and stop being so evasive. I can only tick four of the above yet still weirdly not looking forward to xmas. Maybe it's a genetic problem? But I do remember having a great time at Xmas time. In different times/circumstances. Xmas really does throw things in to sharp focus. Too sharp, sometimes.
We could all try more to be excellent to each other every day. Not conspicuously, and not just at consume-mass. Wouldn't it be great to instead be awesome every day of the year and them take one day 'off' to be grumpy, alone, wasteful and over-indulgent? Call it 'Shitmas'
No humbug.
How I would fix Christmas:
1) Move it to Summer, the Aussies did and it works for them, Christians *shouldn't* mind, Jesus wasn't born December, it's just a date we chose.
2) Ban all forms of Xmas advertising, all forms of Xmas marketing (sticking a snowflake on a box of biscuits and doubling the price - banned).
3) Run a public service campaign - the best Xmas Present is to be present, don't be a dick - give your kids one each.
Wouldn't be universally liked from the off, but give it a couple of years and I think we'd look back on it as a good thing.
Like; time off with the Mrs, Christmas dinner and booze.
DISLIKE: the obligation my Mrs feels to invite the FiL and MiL round and wait on them hand and foot whilst listening to FiL ,being socially dyslexic and MiL drinking Rose by the pint. I've put my foot down this year and we're visiting them late afternoon after a quiet meal on our own.
The pressure for over spending on tat and rubbish and presents for people I hardly know or like.
on't be a dick - give your kids one each.
hmmmm ?
"It was a joke, Mark. A Christmas joke."
Gotta love this [url=
Peep Show clip[/url].
It's good coming from a large family that does not see much of each other now due to there own family commitments, make the effort to do the rounds seeing one then the other over several days of the Christmas hols.
Otherwise we could easily lose touch, also managed to get through the last few without bloodshed the police or the paramedics. Happy Christmas.
@ Angeldust.
Yup, all good in the hood over here. Actually pretty happy with life right now.
Spring is great, Summer is fantastic, Autumn in beautiful, even Winter has it merits, and New Year is fun. But Xmas....that can just **** right off !
I really do [b]HATE[/b] all of it. The excess, the greed, the presents, the turkey, the tinsel (God I hate tinsel) the nightmare travelling on the road and rails, the nightmare family you have to smile through, the stress, the enforced joy, and every time you turn on a TV or walk into a shop, having it rammed down your gullet every - single - day from November the 6th onwards.
Just do one Santa. Bog off back to Greenland or wherever and leave me in peace.
Yours with anger and bile.
ToD
"It was a joke, Mark. A Christmas joke."Gotta love this Christmas-themed Peep Show clip.
Yep, that sums up Xmas pretty well 🙂
Don't hate it as a holiday and festive time per say. But hate all the commercial crap that's associated with it. Sale this, buy that etc. Then there's the crowds at everything you dare attend. Even your local that only has 10 people in it all year.
Mrs Egf & I were on about going away in the caravan just to get away from it all, but now wev'e been nagged into going to her daughters.
There'll be 15 people there & I know 3 of them.
Really can't be arsed with it.
What ToD said basically.
I love Christmas. 10 days off, family, food, drink.[b]But it's way too early to be speaking of it[/b]. I won't speak about it in our house until December - other than a few necessary invites and so on
Now is the time to be making your cake and puddings...
I was pretty indifferent towards it before I had kids.
Now I like -
Cooking/planning what I'm going to cook
Spending quality time with the wife/kids/other friends + family
Time off work
I still don't like -
The fact it starts as soon as the kids go back to school in September
Rampant consumerism
Sh*t TV (I watch less and less every year)
Missing people who really should be there, like my younger brother who died 4 years ago.
So, on balance, I do like Christmas.
Don't much like it.
Not spent Christmas eve with the GF's family for years (nor has she). Mostly because boring AF... it's just another day, but you knock off early and go and eat at 6pm and sit around the table. But this year the GF's sister has asked that we go because of the kids.
But given what my mum has been through this year the GF says we should spend it in the UK.
Last year the GF and I went to Sicily for three weeks. Winter sun bathing. Biking on Etna. Deserted coastlines. Great food.
If the GF wants to see her family then I might just do something similar this year. A week or two in Liguria....?
I love Christmas. 10 days off, family, food, drink.
yeah this.
One thing that helped for me - we used to have a £10 limit on presents. I'd do that again if I was allowed. Made you focus on the good bits, ie eating and drinking too much and enjoying the company of the people you haven't lost yet.
a lot of people's complaints here could be leveled at any given day. Consumerism is out of control generally, TV is shit every day, etc etc
Jeez they start the who hates Christmas threads earlier each year.
We haven't even had the white poppy thread yet
i love Christmas, I have a boy to treat and family to cater for and normally inlaws to visit and enjoy their hospitality. If jesus hadn't have been born then,I think we would have had to come up with some other form of festival to get us through the cold and dark of winter.
Brexmas sounds good.
Getting sick of it being stretched out so much by the shops - any 'specialness' has been sucked out of it for me.
Last year all I had was a small USB powered light that only worked when my laptop was powered up (other reasons for that though...)
Christmas should be every 18 months, so every other one is in the summer.
I do not want to buy a xmas pud in October either.
That's where you're going wrong, buy it on Boxing day in the sales, they last forever.
I just hate Slade and that goddamn robbin bob bob bobbing along.
I just hate Slade and that goddamn robbin bob bob bobbing along.
I do wish that manufacturers would fit audio devices with an off button.
Hate it. 'New Year' too.
I hate being guilt tripped into spending it with one set of relatives or the other, where the possibility of being able to relax for 5 minutes is zero.
I hate being guilt tripped into travelling for the entire period so that both sets of relatives are appeased.
I hate hosting my own relatives, because the possibility of being able to relax for 5 minutes is zero.
I hate having to work my arse off in order to host my own relatives. Especially when they insist on 'helping'.
I hate being forced to 'help' to run someone else's Christmas, that I don't want to be at anyway. Or being guilt tripped into not 'helping' when I've been repeatedly told not to.
I hate insisting that we have Christmas alone (Mrs ADH and I), as one or both sets will invite themselves along anyway.
I hate receiving planet-raping junk presents, bought solely to assuage the person giving the present's misplaced feelings of obligation. I can't think of anything I've been given in the past 10 years that was actually any use at all.
I hate feeling obliged to buy other people useless junk, if I can't think of anything useful to buy them.
I hate the massive rush at work to take a couple of days off.
I hate the massive rush at work in January.
I hate being forced to do absolutely nothing, when I could be getting on with doing something useful.
I hate the cheapness, the tawdryness, the fake bonhomie, the fake sincerity, the waste, and the weakness of myself and others that makes all that necessary.
I do love my relatives, but I can only stand socialising with them in short doses with provision of a clear escape route ...
Don't hate the time itself, do hate the rampant consumerism of it all, and being forced to get together (and be nice to) certain relatives.
Most Christmases recently have been a quiet few days with my parents, relaxing. That, I can deal with.
Hate it. 'New Year' too.
I'm pleased to report that 'New Years' is a complete no-event in my life over and above saying "happy new year" to each other in the morning.
Mrs Jay is usually working New Years Day and New Years Eve, but being 40 with 2 kids it's not like I would otherwise be dancing in the street at Midnight anyway.
It was always crap when I was young, super busy out, every man and his dog who shows his face in the pub once a year claims some sort of weird ownership of the place.
'Millennium' did for me, the biggest anti-climax in the history of anti-climatic events ha ha.
anyone shifted camp in either direction (hate it -> love it or love it -> hate it) from either of these previous threads?
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/anyone-else-hate-christmas-as-much-as-me
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/christmas-whos-chewed-their-own-tounge-off
I'm pretty much in the same position
I love it - was pretty ambivalent towards it until my sister had kids and then us not long afterwards.
Now it's brilliant - seeing the kids' excitement, time off work with friends & family, just slowing down a little bit too.
We've set a limit per present across the whole extended family - means that you focus on getting people something good, thoughtful and considered rather than just chucking £££ at some old shit.
Who’s Christmas?
Who’s Christmas?
Mary, apparently
What's not to love?
I could eat mince pies every day of the week and Christmas pud with sugar and cream on it is the best!
Like - going up to see my parents, bucks fizz and croissants for breakfast, walks in the countryside, homemade christmas pud, epic roast ham, venison stew's, basically it's Christmas straight out of the country life magazine, except cheaper and classy. Probably the most relaxing 4 days of the year.
Don't like - the enforced "doing christmas properly" os the OH put's it with the in-laws, every year there's a reason why we can't go upto my parents (this'll be christmas number 8). Small house, too many people, too much food, over-cooked veg, and no one leaves for 4 days straight and ends up a highly stung, stressed adn with a bad back as no one get's enough sleep and usually ends up sleeping on the floor in a room full of relatives. This year it'll be 4 generations in a terraced house!
This year I might go for a bivi with a hip flask Christmas eve.
the enforced "doing christmas properly"
How the actual F I managed to miss that one off my "don't like" list I don't know.
Edit.
It's pretty good, friends and kids and lights etc. As long as you stay away from that religion stuff...
But it does go on [i]too long[/i], and the ones I have spent in Oz, Canada and the US have been way better. Restaurants open, buses run and the TV isn't rubbish.
Here it is,
1) disappointing present
2) disappointing food
3) disappointing TV
in that order.
zippykona - Member
Jeez they start the who hates Christmas threads earlier each year.
I believe this deserved more recognition than it actually got.
😉
No inlaws this year they have better offers...rejoice!!
Chuck Turkey in oven and go for a bike ride, its thecway forward!!



